Girardi to be fired Tuesday (Girardi is fired by the Marlin)

[waffle]

My dad is a Red Sox fan. Apparently it is all over their radio stations that the cubbies have asked to talk to Francona. the reaction of the sox fans was "please, god PLEASE let them talk to him"

 

I have a particular perspective on this as I live in Philly and watched Mensa Terry while he coached here. He is UNBELIEVABLE. No sense whatsoever. He and Dusty must have learned managing at the same ivy league institution...

 

So, this of course makes perfect sense. He's EXACTLY the kind of non-threatening, "proven winner" piece of jetsum that the Cubs will undoubtedly hire.

 

I want Genardi. Bring back Stone. Play as if it mattered.

[Soriano12]

Girardi was put on this earth to manage the Cubs.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/images/mlb/fla/girardi_vert.jpg

No nonsense. Perform. A freakin dictator. That is what I want.

 

If Hendry doesn't hire him it is because he is a coward and afraid

Girardi won't kiss his feet and bow to him.

[CuseCubFan69]

My dad is a Red Sox fan. Apparently it is all over their radio stations that the cubbies have asked to talk to Francona. the reaction of the sox fans was "please, god PLEASE let them talk to him"

 

I have a particular perspective on this as I live in Philly and watched Mensa Terry while he coached here. He is UNBELIEVABLE. No sense whatsoever. He and Dusty must have learned managing at the same ivy league institution...

 

So, this of course makes perfect sense. He's EXACTLY the kind of non-threatening, "proven winner" piece of jetsum that the Cubs will undoubtedly hire.

 

I want Genardi. Bring back Stone. Play as if it mattered.

 

If this is true I do not understand the Francona thing at all. I'm not impressed with his knowledge of the game and if Hendry makes him the choice AND gives the Sox a very good prospect I'm going to go fishing a lot more in 2007 than I did in 2006.

[C.C.]

My dad is a Red Sox fan. Apparently it is all over their radio stations that the cubbies have asked to talk to Francona. the reaction of the sox fans was "please, god PLEASE let them talk to him"

 

I have a particular perspective on this as I live in Philly and watched Mensa Terry while he coached here. He is UNBELIEVABLE. No sense whatsoever. He and Dusty must have learned managing at the same ivy league institution...

 

So, this of course makes perfect sense. He's EXACTLY the kind of non-threatening, "proven winner" piece of jetsum that the Cubs will undoubtedly hire.

 

I want Genardi. Bring back Stone. Play as if it mattered.

 

If this is true I do not understand the Francona thing at all. I'm not impressed with his knowledge of the game and if Hendry makes him the choice AND gives the Sox a very good prospect I'm going to go fishing a lot more in 2007 than I did in 2006.

 

Isn't he and Dusty very similar? Might as well keep Dusty...

[goonys evil twin]

My dad is a Red Sox fan. Apparently it is all over their radio stations that the cubbies have asked to talk to Francona. the reaction of the sox fans was "please, god PLEASE let them talk to him"

 

I have a particular perspective on this as I live in Philly and watched Mensa Terry while he coached here. He is UNBELIEVABLE. No sense whatsoever. He and Dusty must have learned managing at the same ivy league institution...

 

So, this of course makes perfect sense. He's EXACTLY the kind of non-threatening, "proven winner" piece of jetsum that the Cubs will undoubtedly hire.

 

I want Genardi. Bring back Stone. Play as if it mattered.

 

If this is true I do not understand the Francona thing at all. I'm not impressed with his knowledge of the game and if Hendry makes him the choice AND gives the Sox a very good prospect I'm going to go fishing a lot more in 2007 than I did in 2006.

 

Isn't he and Dusty very similar? Might as well keep Dusty...

 

Philly felt the need to go to Bowa after Francona, to toughen up the team. It would be odd if the Cubs replaced one laissez faire manager with another.

[snoodmonger]

I have a lot of concerns RE Girardi's in-game strategy.

[VanceJergins]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2609813

 

It also looks like Fredi Gonzalez is off the books. Looks like he will take the job in Florida. So much exploring your options...

 

Are there any other sources saying Gonzalez is going to sign with Florida? For some reason the source in that article seemed a little sketchy.

[VanceJergins]

I have a lot of concerns RE Girardi's in-game strategy.

 

What would those be? I'm not asking that to disagree, I just dont know much about his in-game strategy.

[goonys evil twin]

I have a lot of concerns RE Girardi's in-game strategy.

 

What would those be? I'm not asking that to disagree, I just dont know much about his in-game strategy.

 

Personally, I fear he might be a little sac bunt happy, and far to willing to give away outs. But maybe that's just because he's the guy Baylor hit in the 2 hole with the specific job of sac bunting whenever possible. It could be guilt by association.

[CuseCubFan69]

I have a lot of concerns RE Girardi's in-game strategy.

 

What would those be? I'm not asking that to disagree, I just dont know much about his in-game strategy.

 

Personally, I fear he might be a little sac bunt happy, and far to willing to give away outs. But maybe that's just because he's the guy Baylor hit in the 2 hole with the specific job of sac bunting whenever possible. It could be guilt by association.

 

I have that fear too but maybe if the Cubs have some hitters he won't fall into that trap.

[Banedon]

I have a lot of concerns RE Girardi's in-game strategy.

 

What would those be? I'm not asking that to disagree, I just dont know much about his in-game strategy.

 

Personally, I fear he might be a little sac bunt happy, and far to willing to give away outs. But maybe that's just because he's the guy Baylor hit in the 2 hole with the specific job of sac bunting whenever possible. It could be guilt by association.

 

I didn't watch enough Marlins games to know, but could some of that just have to do with the personnel that he had, or is it just his managerial philosophy?

[goonys evil twin]

I have a lot of concerns RE Girardi's in-game strategy.

 

What would those be? I'm not asking that to disagree, I just dont know much about his in-game strategy.

 

Personally, I fear he might be a little sac bunt happy, and far to willing to give away outs. But maybe that's just because he's the guy Baylor hit in the 2 hole with the specific job of sac bunting whenever possible. It could be guilt by association.

 

I didn't watch enough Marlins games to know, but could some of that just have to do with the personnel that he had, or is it just his managerial philosophy?

 

I have no idea, that's why it's just a fear, as opposed to how convinced I was that Baker was a mistake. I don't know enough about Joe's style, I just fear that he's an old school out giver and pitcher abuser.

[wastra]

The comlaints I hear from my buddiesi n Miami are about his pitcher usage. They complain that he yanks starters too easily and brings in bad bullpen arms instead. Teh Fish ahd good starters and a weak bullpen this year. They also said WHO he brought in from the pen often defied wisdom- bringing in the worst of the relievers in tight games with everyone rested instead of the better pitchers.

 

I guess you could look at that two ways- good for protecting starters, but bad for winning strategy.

 

 

 

That's what i hear from them, I haven't watched enough Fish games to know that to be true or not, and I don't know how that would go on a team with a deep bullpen like the Cubs, but I have to think it would be better with our pen than theirs.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The comlaints I hear from my buddiesi n Miami are about his pitcher usage. They complain that he yanks starters too easily and brings in bad bullpen arms instead. Teh Fish ahd good starters and a weak bullpen this year. They also said WHO he brought in from the pen often defied wisdom- bringing in the worst of the relievers in tight games with everyone rested instead of the better pitchers.

 

This is fantastic news.

[Outshined_One]

That's what i hear from them, I haven't watched enough Fish games to know that to be true or not, and I don't know how that would go on a team with a deep bullpen like the Cubs, but I have to think it would be better with our pen than theirs.

 

I'm curious as to what he'd do with an older rotation and more talented bullpen, in that case.

[Banedon]

The comlaints I hear from my buddiesi n Miami are about his pitcher usage. They complain that he yanks starters too easily and brings in bad bullpen arms instead. Teh Fish ahd good starters and a weak bullpen this year. They also said WHO he brought in from the pen often defied wisdom- bringing in the worst of the relievers in tight games with everyone rested instead of the better pitchers.

 

This is fantastic news.

 

Yep...just give him good relief pitchers to bring in.

[wastra]

That's what i hear from them, I haven't watched enough Fish games to know that to be true or not, and I don't know how that would go on a team with a deep bullpen like the Cubs, but I have to think it would be better with our pen than theirs.

 

I'm curious as to what he'd do with an older rotation and more talented bullpen, in that case.

 

I couldn't say. Again, I get this second hand, obviously, from three big-time baseball fans who live in Miami and watch the Fish as often as possible.

 

But I have to think that if he likes making pitching changes, a roster with a lot of good relievers would be better to do that with.

 

 

 

And my buddies never mention the sac bunting thing, but IIRC they were fans of the mid/late 1980s cardinals (Coleman, McGee, Ozzie, Herr, etc) who ran and bunted like crazy, so they might not take notice of that anyway.

[Johnny_B]

yeah just so long as he doesnt grind down those relievers arms like dusty did with the starters.....

[VanceJergins]

The comlaints I hear from my buddiesi n Miami are about his pitcher usage. They complain that he yanks starters too easily and brings in bad bullpen arms instead. Teh Fish ahd good starters and a weak bullpen this year. They also said WHO he brought in from the pen often defied wisdom- bringing in the worst of the relievers in tight games with everyone rested instead of the better pitchers.

 

This is fantastic news.

 

I'm not entirely sure that you arent being sarcastic, but assuming you're serious, I agree. I would much rather a manager pull starters too early than too late. And it doesnt seem like the Marlins had an incredibly deep bullpen so I dont know how much stock to put into that argument.

[Banedon]

The comlaints I hear from my buddiesi n Miami are about his pitcher usage. They complain that he yanks starters too easily and brings in bad bullpen arms instead. Teh Fish ahd good starters and a weak bullpen this year. They also said WHO he brought in from the pen often defied wisdom- bringing in the worst of the relievers in tight games with everyone rested instead of the better pitchers.

 

This is fantastic news.

 

I'm not entirely sure that you arent being sarcastic, but assuming you're serious, I agree. I would much rather a manager pull starters too early than too late. And it doesnt seem like the Marlins had an incredibly deep bullpen so I dont know how much stock to put into that argument.

 

T_T is very worried about pitcher abuse, so I believe he was being quite serious.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The comlaints I hear from my buddiesi n Miami are about his pitcher usage. They complain that he yanks starters too easily and brings in bad bullpen arms instead. Teh Fish ahd good starters and a weak bullpen this year. They also said WHO he brought in from the pen often defied wisdom- bringing in the worst of the relievers in tight games with everyone rested instead of the better pitchers.

 

This is fantastic news.

 

I'm not entirely sure that you arent being sarcastic, but assuming you're serious, I agree. I would much rather a manager pull starters too early than too late. And it doesnt seem like the Marlins had an incredibly deep bullpen so I dont know how much stock to put into that argument.

 

No doubt, getting a manager who doesn't abuse starters is the one thing that I care about above anything else in our new manager.

[Outshined_One]

And my buddies never mention the sac bunting thing, but IIRC they were fans of the mid/late 1980s cardinals (Coleman, McGee, Ozzie, Herr, etc) who ran and bunted like crazy, so they might not take notice of that anyway.

 

I believe that is the case with Girardi, as he basically expected all of his hitters to know how to bunt, save for Cabrera.

 

I'm not too particularly impressed with the IsoD numbers, plus they have six guys with 100+ Ks on the team this season. It could be their talent or it could be indicative of an aggressive approach at the plate. Hard to tell either way.

[oldstyle81]

Was just fired reported by WGN radio

[C.C.]

Was just fired reported by WGN radio

 

This early? They aren't wasting time are they...

[XZero771679666304]

Was just fired reported by WGN radio

 

This early? They aren't wasting time are they...

 

Just heard it on Cold Pizza as well.