08/10 CUBS (Prior) @ Milwaukee (Davis) 1:05 CDT, WGN-TV

[CubColtPacer]

I forgot this game was a day game. Luckily, I haven't missed anything. What was Prior's problem(s) today?

 

Absolutely no control caused most of his problems, and the pretty bad defense behind him extended innings that exacerbated the problems. His main problem was that he couldn't get the fastball over the plate but it was drifting up and in consistently.

That wasn't it come on, let's be serious for a moment. Prior's problems are more than just control. His fastball and curve are not the same pitches that he used to throw. His curve doesn't have that snap on it and his fastball isn't consistent in the 92-94 range that it used to be. He's done for.

 

It's hard to tell how batters will hit his stuff now if he can't get the ball over the plate most of the time-I mean, they didn't exactly hit him very hard today-I saw only about 2-3 hard hit balls off of him all day, and 1 of those was caught and another 1 should have been caught. I don't know if his stuff is as good as before-probably not, but he still should be a much better pitcher then he is-and that is his control. I'd rather see him pitch-it's horrible to see him out there, but I think he needs the work if he's going to figure it out again.

[Soriano12]

With the young guys pitching well there is no point for Rusch to even be

on this team.

 

But he has a 2+ million contract..Only a moron like Hendry would give him that $$$. The worst GM in baseball folks.

Thanks, I've been saying that for a while now. Hendry and co are terrible.

 

 

I am going to photoshop a picture of hendry going thru a dumpster...

 

it will be titled:

 

Jim Hendry Dumpster Diving since 2003.

Will you put Maddux, DLEE, ARAM, and Nomar in there? All guys we got after 2003 started.

 

I'm thinking more along the lines of:

 

Perez

Rusch

Ryan Dumpster

Burnitz

Bad Ohman

Roberta Rovoa

Todd Walker

and the beat goes on...some GM's get talent..others go Dumpster Diving.

Thats funny.

 

Todd Walker..the softest .280 second baseman in the game...and one

of the worst defensively. Teams were sure axious to get him when he was

on the trading block for over 6 months.

[goonys evil twin]

Todd Walker..the softest .280 second baseman in the game...

 

That's some of the most nonsensical gibberish I've read.

[NorthsideAvenger]

His curve doesn't have that snap on it and his fastball isn't consistent in the 92-94 range that it used to be. He's done for.[/quote]

 

I hope you mean he's done for the year. When you couple not being consistantly healthy, with having the whole bench in the starting lineup behind, equals less confidence. I think the problem with Prior right now, is confidence, he doesn't have that swagger he had in 2003. I don't think he's done, I think his confidence needs to rebuilt.

[Soriano12]

Todd Walker..the softest .280 second baseman in the game...

 

That's some of the most nonsensical gibberish I've read.

 

I'll try and clear it up.

 

Walker was never clutch. Yet he always seemed to be hitting .280-.290

 

when you looked at his stats, He would always seem to get that 2 out double in the 7th inning with the Cubs down 8-0.

 

He did take pitchers, and get on base...trouble is he would have trouble beating a parapalegic in a footrace.

[neely crenshaw]

i like todd walker. however he does seem to get sent packing quite a bit from his many teams despite solid numbers...

 

 

also you can not forget the likes of macias, hollandsworth, simon, blanco,

restovich,grimm, womack,mabry,bynum, miller,gerrult....

[Butterscup1679666578]

Aramis Ramirez's HRs in 2006

 

This is for whoever requested his HRs in game situations this year. NOTE: If it says "Cubs lead ___" it means the Cubs had the lead after the inning, not that Aramis necessarily gave them the lead himself.

 

#1 - Game 2 (1-1) - Two-run HR in the top of the first to give the Cubs a 2-0 lead. Cubs lose 8-6

 

#2 - Game 11 (7-4) - Two-run HR in the top of the sixth to give the Cubs a 7-0 lead. Cubs win 7-3

 

#3 - Game 17 (10-7) - Two-run HR in the top of the fifth to give the Cubs a 7-0 lead. Cubs win 7-3

 

#4 - Game 20 (12-8) - Solo HR in the bottom of the second to give the Cubs a 1-0 lead. Cubs lose 7-5.

 

#5 - Game 29 (14-15) - Solo HR in the top of the fourth to give the Cubs a 1-0 lead. Cubs lose 2-1 in 10.

 

#6 - Game 30 (14-16) - Solo HR in the top of the fourth to give the Cubs a 3-2 lead. Cubs lose 6-3.

 

#7 & #8 - Game 43 (18-25) - Solo HR in the top of the second to give the Cubs a 1-0 lead. Solo HR in the top of the fourth to give the Cubs a 2-1 lead. Cubs win 7-4

 

#9 - Game 44 (18-26) - Solo HR in the top of the seventh to pull within 9-1. Cubs lose 9-1.

 

#10 - Game 54 (22-32) - Grand Slam HR in the top of the fourth to give the Cubs a 5-1 lead. Cubs win 8-5.

 

#11 - Game 66 (26-40) - Solo HR in the bottom of the 8th to pull within 5-3. Cubs lose 5-3

 

#12 - Game 68 (26-42) - Solo HR in the bottom of the 4th to pull within 8-2. Cubs lose 12-3.

 

#13 - Game 70 (27-43) - Solo HR in the top of the sixth to pull within 4-2. Cubs lose 4-2.

 

#14 - Game 76 (28-48) - Solo HR in the bottom of the 8th to take a 5-4 lead. Cubs lose 8-4.

 

#15 - Game 80 (29-51) - Three run HR in the bottom of the 5th to take a 5-3 lead. Cubs lose 8-6.

 

#16 - Game 88 (34-54) - Solo HR in the top of the 4th to take a 4-2 lead. Cubs win 11-4.

 

#17 - Game 94 (37-57) - Solo HR in the bottom of the third to take a 3-0 lead. Cubs win 4-1.

 

#18 & #19 - Game 96 (37-59) - Solo HR in the top of the 2nd to tie it 1-1. Two run HR in the top of the 7th to take a 6-4 lead. Cubs lose 7-6.

 

#20 & #21 - Game 97 (37-60) - Solo HR in the top of the 1st to take a 2-0 lead. Solo HR in the top of the 5th to take a 3-2 lead. Cubs lose 7-3.

 

#22 - Game 98 (38-60) - Two run HR in the top of the 5th to take a 8-4 lead. Cubs win 8-7.

 

#23 - Game 99 (39-60) - Solo HR in top of the first to take a 2-0 lead. Cubs win 8-6.

 

#24 - Game 106 (43-63) - Two run HR in the bottom of the third to pull within 6-3. Cubs lose 15-4.

 

#25 - Game 108 (44-64) - Two run HR in the top of the first to take a 2-0 lead. Cubs win 9-3.

 

#26 - Game 113 (48-65) - Three run HR in the top of the 6th to pull within 6-3. Cubs lose 6-3.

 

#27 - Game 114 (48-65) - Two run HR in the top of the 5th to pull within 8-3.

[Soriano12]

Cedeno just lost his job to Theirot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if we had a manager with any balls.

[USSoccer]

Aramis Ramirez's HRs in 2006

 

This is for whoever requested his HRs in game situations this year. NOTE: If it says "Cubs lead ___" it means the Cubs had the lead after the inning, not that Aramis necessarily gave them the lead himself.

 

#1 - Game 2 (1-1) - Two-run HR in the top of the first to give the Cubs a 2-0 lead. Cubs lose 8-6

 

#2 - Game 11 (7-4) - Two-run HR in the top of the sixth to give the Cubs a 7-0 lead. Cubs win 7-3

 

#3 - Game 17 (10-7) - Two-run HR in the top of the fifth to give the Cubs a 7-0 lead. Cubs win 7-3

 

#4 - Game 20 (12-8) - Solo HR in the bottom of the second to give the Cubs a 1-0 lead. Cubs lose 7-5.

 

#5 - Game 29 (14-15) - Solo HR in the top of the fourth to give the Cubs a 1-0 lead. Cubs lose 2-1 in 10.

 

#6 - Game 30 (14-16) - Solo HR in the top of the fourth to give the Cubs a 3-2 lead. Cubs lose 6-3.

 

#7 & #8 - Game 43 (18-25) - Solo HR in the top of the second to give the Cubs a 1-0 lead. Solo HR in the top of the fourth to give the Cubs a 2-1 lead. Cubs win 7-4

 

#9 - Game 44 (18-26) - Solo HR in the top of the seventh to pull within 9-1. Cubs lose 9-1.

 

#10 - Game 54 (22-32) - Grand Slam HR in the top of the fourth to give the Cubs a 5-1 lead. Cubs win 8-5.

 

#11 - Game 66 (26-40) - Solo HR in the bottom of the 8th to pull within 5-3. Cubs lose 5-3

 

#12 - Game 68 (26-42) - Solo HR in the bottom of the 4th to pull within 8-2. Cubs lose 12-3.

 

#13 - Game 70 (27-43) - Solo HR in the top of the sixth to pull within 4-2. Cubs lose 4-2.

 

#14 - Game 76 (28-48) - Solo HR in the bottom of the 8th to take a 5-4 lead. Cubs lose 8-4.

 

#15 - Game 80 (29-51) - Three run HR in the bottom of the 5th to take a 5-3 lead. Cubs lose 8-6.

 

#16 - Game 88 (34-54) - Solo HR in the top of the 4th to take a 4-2 lead. Cubs win 11-4.

 

#17 - Game 94 (37-57) - Solo HR in the bottom of the third to take a 3-0 lead. Cubs win 4-1.

 

#18 & #19 - Game 96 (37-59) - Solo HR in the top of the 2nd to tie it 1-1. Two run HR in the top of the 7th to take a 6-4 lead. Cubs lose 7-6.

 

#20 & #21 - Game 97 (37-60) - Solo HR in the top of the 1st to take a 2-0 lead. Solo HR in the top of the 5th to take a 3-2 lead. Cubs lose 7-3.

 

#22 - Game 98 (38-60) - Two run HR in the top of the 5th to take a 8-4 lead. Cubs win 8-7.

 

#23 - Game 99 (39-60) - Solo HR in top of the first to take a 2-0 lead. Cubs win 8-6.

 

#24 - Game 106 (43-63) - Two run HR in the bottom of the third to pull within 6-3. Cubs lose 15-4.

 

#25 - Game 108 (44-64) - Two run HR in the top of the first to take a 2-0 lead. Cubs win 9-3.

 

#26 - Game 113 (48-65) - Three run HR in the top of the 6th to pull within 6-3. Cubs lose 6-3.

 

#27 - Game 114 (48-65) - Two run HR in the top of the 5th to pull within 8-3.

 

Seems like a lot of those HR's gave us a lead...

[CubColtPacer]

Good work Cubbies75..the only thing I don't really like that much is that only 3 of Aramis's 27 home runs have come in the 7th, 8th, or 9th-but I think you pretty well showed that his home runs have come mostly come in close games, which is what I personally already suspected. Again, good work on that.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Todd Walker..the softest .280 second baseman in the game...

 

That's some of the most nonsensical gibberish I've read.

 

Goony, I have to agree with the statement that Todd Walker is the softest .280 2B in the game. Currently, he is hitting .278/.352/.388. That's right, that is a .388 SLUGGING. Walker is imply not supplying any power this yr, and hence "the softest .280 2b in the game" title, at least this year.

Edited August 10, 2006 by NorthsideAvenger

[goonys evil twin]

Todd Walker..the softest .280 second baseman in the game...

 

That's some of the most nonsensical gibberish I've read.

 

I'll try and clear it up.

 

Walker was never clutch. Yet he always seemed to be hitting .280-.290

 

when you looked at his stats, He would always seem to get that 2 out double in the 7th inning with the Cubs down 8-0.

 

He did take pitchers, and get on base...trouble is he would have trouble beating a parapalegic in a footrace.

 

Seemed is a dangerous word.

 

Clutch is BS. But just for the fun of it, from 2003-2005, 3 full seasons, Todd Walker hit .272/.330/.432 with nobody on, .290/.356/.443 with RISP, and .316/.409/.500 with RISP/2 outs.

 

Maybe the problem was that the Cubs were down 8-0 too often.

[Roast]

Todd Walker..the softest .280 second baseman in the game...

 

That's some of the most nonsensical gibberish I've read.

 

I'll try and clear it up.

 

Walker was never clutch. Yet he always seemed to be hitting .280-.290

 

when you looked at his stats, He would always seem to get that 2 out double in the 7th inning with the Cubs down 8-0.

 

He did take pitchers, and get on base...trouble is he would have trouble beating a parapalegic in a footrace.

 

So, even though he got on base more than everybody not named Barrett or Murton, he hit a "soft" .280?

 

And what makes him not clutch? The fact he was FOURTH in RBI's behind Ramirez, Barrett, and Jones?

 

Oh, but its his speed that gets him in trouble, right? Unlike, say, Juan Pierre. I mean, WOW, he's so fast! He must get on base SO much more, and do SO much more damage! (actually no, his OBP is 30 points lower)

[Soriano12]

Todd Walker..the softest .280 second baseman in the game...

 

That's some of the most nonsensical gibberish I've read.

 

I'll try and clear it up.

 

Walker was never clutch. Yet he always seemed to be hitting .280-.290

 

when you looked at his stats, He would always seem to get that 2 out double in the 7th inning with the Cubs down 8-0.

 

He did take pitchers, and get on base...trouble is he would have trouble beating a parapalegic in a footrace.

 

So, even though he got on base more than everybody not named Barrett or Murton, he hit a "soft" .280?

 

And what makes him not clutch? The fact he was FOURTH in RBI's behind Ramirez, Barrett, and Jones?

 

Oh, but its his speed that gets him in trouble, right? Unlike, say, Juan Pierre. I mean, WOW, he's so fast! He must get on base SO much more, and do SO much more damage! (actually no, his OBP is 30 points lower)

 

his slugging % was terrible this year.

 

Cedeno will be no better....I really like this Theirot kid though...

but I think Dusty hates him.

[cheapseats]

Clutch is BS. But just for the fun of it, from 2003-2005, 3 full seasons, Todd Walker hit .272/.330/.432 with nobody on, .290/.356/.443 with RISP, and .316/.409/.500 with RISP/2 outs.

 

You and your stats. Do you even watch the games? :twisted:

[USSoccer]

Good work Cubbies75..the only thing I don't really like that much is that only 3 of Aramis's 27 home runs have come in the 7th, 8th, or 9th-but I think you pretty well showed that his home runs have come mostly come in close games, which is what I personally already suspected. Again, good work on that.

 

HR's in the first 3 innings matter just as much as HR's in the last 3. What matters more is the situation they were hit in. Is a solo shot in the 1st to give a 1-0 lead worth relatively less than a Grand Slam in the 9th when you're losing 15-2?

[Roast]

 

his slugging % was terrible this year.

 

 

Well there you may have an argument but the "only gets hits when they dont count" BS is incoherant jibberish.

[Soriano12]

Todd Walker..the softest .280 second baseman in the game...

 

That's some of the most nonsensical gibberish I've read.

 

I'll try and clear it up.

 

Walker was never clutch. Yet he always seemed to be hitting .280-.290

 

when you looked at his stats, He would always seem to get that 2 out double in the 7th inning with the Cubs down 8-0.

 

He did take pitchers, and get on base...trouble is he would have trouble beating a parapalegic in a footrace.

 

Seemed is a dangerous word.

 

Clutch is BS. But just for the fun of it, from 2003-2005, 3 full seasons, Todd Walker hit .272/.330/.432 with nobody on, .290/.356/.443 with RISP, and .316/.409/.500 with RISP/2 outs.

 

Maybe the problem was that the Cubs were down 8-0 too often.

 

I didn't realize that his numbers were that high with RISP.

 

maybe we were down 8-0 too much.

 

but as the other poster pointed out terrible slugging % and if you have a terrible slugging % and are dead weight on the basepaths..and

a liabilty in the field..what good are you to a team.

[cheapseats]

his slugging % was terrible this year.

 

Cedeno will be no better....I really like this Theirot kid though...

but I think Dusty hates him.

 

So Walker's slugging % isn't good, but you like Theriot?

 

Theriot's slugging percentages:

 

2002: .279

2003: .265

2004: .292

2005: .342

 

All in the minor leagues. He's already 26, and doesn't project to ever slug more than .333 in the majors.

 

But Todd Walker is soft. :roll:

[neely crenshaw]

His curve doesn't have that snap on it and his fastball isn't consistent in the 92-94 range that it used to be. He's done for.[/quote]

 

I hope you mean he's done for the year. When you couple not being consistantly healthy, with having the whole bench in the starting lineup behind, equals less confidence. I think the problem with Prior right now, is confidence, he doesn't have that swagger he had in 2003. I don't think he's done, I think his confidence needs to rebuilt.

 

let's see...he is hitting 88 on the gun, he used to 93-94 for the whole game. this has been happening for a while. his pitch counts are astronomical because he has no command...that's been going on since last june. i haven't done the research yet but i know his era is over 5.00 since last june...this is a large sample size and he shows absolutely no signs of anything changing! much like i said with wood last offfseason..we need to find someone to take him at cost for anything...a dozen balls.and indy player...assistant trainer..anything- cut our losses and use the 5-6 mil to add to the savings from wood/maddux and sign at least 2 starters!

 

i like prior..i hope he does great BUT if we want to win next year we can not sit back and hope he becomes prior again. if we wait to find out if he won't , no one will ever take him unless we pay his salary, which does us no good.

[Soriano12]

his slugging % was terrible this year.

 

Cedeno will be no better....I really like this Theirot kid though...

but I think Dusty hates him.

 

So Walker's slugging % isn't good, but you like Theriot?

 

:roll:

 

I like Theirot because he can do damage on the basepaths

and has more range defensively.

 

I don't see what is so hard to understand.

 

Walker gets a single..he will remain at first unless he is advanced by the hitter.

 

Theirot gets a single and there is a good chance he is taking second.

Edited August 10, 2006 by Soriano12

[CubColtPacer]

Good work Cubbies75..the only thing I don't really like that much is that only 3 of Aramis's 27 home runs have come in the 7th, 8th, or 9th-but I think you pretty well showed that his home runs have come mostly come in close games, which is what I personally already suspected. Again, good work on that.

 

HR's in the first 3 innings matter just as much as HR's in the last 3. What matters more is the situation they were hit in. Is a solo shot in the 1st to give a 1-0 lead worth relatively less than a Grand Slam in the 9th when you're losing 15-2?

 

Yes, it matters more what situation they were hit in. I am a big supporter of Aramis, and I think that his numbers conclusively show he just doesn't hit meaningless home runs. I just saw an anomoly in the data that makes me think he could do even more-but that doesn't mean that I'm not extremely happy with his production already.

[neely crenshaw]

Good work Cubbies75..the only thing I don't really like that much is that only 3 of Aramis's 27 home runs have come in the 7th, 8th, or 9th-but I think you pretty well showed that his home runs have come mostly come in close games, which is what I personally already suspected. Again, good work on that.

 

HR's in the first 3 innings matter just as much as HR's in the last 3. What matters more is the situation they were hit in. Is a solo shot in the 1st to give a 1-0 lead worth relatively less than a Grand Slam in the 9th when you're losing 15-2?

 

seriously, how many games have we been in after the 6th inning?

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

i like todd walker. however he does seem to get sent packing quite a bit from his many teams despite solid numbers...

 

 

also you can not forget the likes of macias, hollandsworth, simon, blanco,

restovich,grimm, womack,mabry,bynum, miller,gerrult....

 

Why Blanco? He's a backup catcher. A good defensive one at that. What were you looking for?

 

What is wrong with giving someone like Restovich a shot? The Cubs have never really given him that shot, but he was a cheap pick up and worthy of a look, imo.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Good work Cubbies75..the only thing I don't really like that much is that only 3 of Aramis's 27 home runs have come in the 7th, 8th, or 9th-but I think you pretty well showed that his home runs have come mostly come in close games, which is what I personally already suspected. Again, good work on that.

 

HR's in the first 3 innings matter just as much as HR's in the last 3. What matters more is the situation they were hit in. Is a solo shot in the 1st to give a 1-0 lead worth relatively less than a Grand Slam in the 9th when you're losing 15-2?

 

Yes, it matters more what situation they were hit in. I am a big supporter of Aramis, and I think that his numbers conclusively show he just doesn't hit meaningless home runs. I just saw an anomoly in the data that makes me think he could do even more-but that doesn't mean that I'm not extremely happy with his production already.

 

Agreed. It always bothered me when people said Aramis was hitting "useless" HRs. Just because the team sucks and they didn't win doesn't mean his HRs were useless. I've been meaning to do this for awhile, but I'm glad someone requested it.