08/10 CUBS (Prior) @ Milwaukee (Davis) 1:05 CDT, WGN-TV

[NorthsideAvenger]

His curve doesn't have that snap on it and his fastball isn't consistent in the 92-94 range that it used to be. He's done for.[/quote]

 

I hope you mean he's done for the year. When you couple not being consistantly healthy, with having the whole bench in the starting lineup behind, equals less confidence. I think the problem with Prior right now, is confidence, he doesn't have that swagger he had in 2003. I don't think he's done, I think his confidence needs to rebuilt.

 

let's see...he is hitting 88 on the gun, he used to 93-94 for the whole game. this has been happening for a while. his pitch counts are astronomical because he has no command...that's been going on since last june. i haven't done the research yet but i know his era is over 5.00 since last june...this is a large sample size and he shows absolutely no signs of anything changing! much like i said with wood last offfseason..we need to find someone to take him at cost for anything...a dozen balls.and indy player...assistant trainer..anything- cut our losses and use the 5-6 mil to add to the savings from wood/maddux and sign at least 2 starters!

 

i like prior..i hope he does great BUT if we want to win next year we can not sit back and hope he becomes prior again. if we wait to find out if he won't , no one will ever take him unless we pay his salary, which does us no good.

 

Again, I think it is more CONFIDENCE/MENTAL, then physical. I know his stuff is "average"" right now, but if he can stay healthy the rest of the season, make another 5 to 8 starts (if he has that manyleft this yr) get the confidence he can stay healthy, I fully believe that a healthy offseason, working with say Tom House, and Prior will be back to his old self in 2007. You maybe ready to give up on Prior, but I'm not, and I sure the Cubs aren't either.

[bcruise]

What was Dusty's reaction? Did it look like he made the call to send Pierre?

 

Either way, an absolutely horrible play, but just what I've come to expect.

Edited August 10, 2006 by bcruise

[cheapseats]

What was Dusty's reaction? Did it look like he made the call to send Pierre?

 

Either way, an absoultely horrible play, but just what I've come to expect.

 

You don't think playing for one run is a good idea when the team is down by two? :twisted:

[neely crenshaw]

why bad mouth walker?

he played hard. he gave us exactly what he was expected. he hit pretty well, he got on base, he had some pop, he told it like it was, he did not run well and he was suspect on d...

if you do not like him or that he played blame the guy that brought him in..because that is exactly what he has always done, it should not have been a surprise to anyone.

[Soriano12]

why bad mouth walker?

he played hard.

 

I lost all respect for him when he pulled a Kent Merker this season.

[bcruise]

What was Dusty's reaction? Did it look like he made the call to send Pierre?

 

Either way, an absoultely horrible play, but just what I've come to expect.

 

You don't think playing for one run is a good idea when the team is down by two? :twisted:

 

The thought ocurred to me that Dusty might just be stupid enough to make that call.

[Butterscup1679666578]

WHAT?!?! IZTURIS?!?!? UIHUIASDPFHGIUOPASDHGIPUASHFG

[cheapseats]

why bad mouth walker?

he played hard. he gave us exactly what he was expected. he hit pretty well, he got on base, he had some pop, he told it like it was, he did not run well and he was suspect on d...

if you do not like him or that he played blame the guy that brought him in..because that is exactly what he has always done, it should not have been a surprise to anyone.

 

And he had a higher OPS than Alfonso Soriano last year. It's hard to number him with Hendry's mistakes.

[PrimeTime]

Takes out Theriot whos 3 for 3 great job Dusty

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Takes out Theriot whos 3 for 3 great job Dusty

 

Lefty/righty dude.

[Soriano12]

Briliant move...take out guy who is 3-3 and replace him with gutter trash.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Well, he walked. I guess i cant complain.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Dusty knows more than you.

[cheapseats]

Well, he walked. I guess i cant complain.

 

Oh, you can still complain. Just because it worked doesn't mean it was the right move.

 

Now look for Dusty to call for a hit-and-run with Aramis.

[Butterscup1679666578]

He dropped it! Wow!

[soccer10k]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[PrimeTime]

I must say nice job by Izturis drawing the walk

[lowest]

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... :lol:

[coldsteel]

My God!... It's... like he's driving in runs with his glove!!!!...

[Butterscup1679666578]

Well, he walked. I guess i cant complain.

 

Oh, you can still complain. Just because it worked doesn't mean it was the right move.

 

Now look for Dusty to call for a hit-and-run with Aramis.

 

Hahah fair. I can't complain about the outcome, is what I meant. I'd definitely rather see The Riot up there.

[cheapseats]

My God!... It's... like he's driving in runs with his glove!!!!...

 

:lol:

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

i like todd walker. however he does seem to get sent packing quite a bit from his many teams despite solid numbers...

 

 

also you can not forget the likes of macias, hollandsworth, simon, blanco,

restovich,grimm, womack,mabry,bynum, miller,gerrult....

 

Why Blanco? He's a backup catcher. A good defensive one at that. What were you looking for?

 

What is wrong with giving someone like Restovich a shot? The Cubs have never really given him that shot, but he was a cheap pick up and worthy of a look, imo.

 

there is nothing wrong with any of them but when they are constantly the biggest moves made and we pay many an unslightly amount of money it is poor...and whether you like the guy or not when you cruise the scrap heap signing guys that is dumpster diving...

just a quick example while we were dumpster diving for neifi, and womack..and paying an absurd amount for nefster, the sox scooped a rather useful alex cintron for next to nothing..

many teams seem to like to fill these spots with young players..perhaps theriot could have played more of nefster and womack's innings at a fraction of the cost...

we gave away corey patterson...so that we could grab bynum? why? if corey's done then let him be a bench player...obviously he wasn't done which adds to the frustration. it would have been one thing if we traded for some value but we got a class A player...

 

Ok, so the Sox got Cintron as a bench player. I agree that is a good move.

 

But, look at another bench player.....back up catcher. The Sox had Widger and now have Sandy Alomar Jr.

Imo, the Cubs have the better bench player back up catcher wise.

 

The Sox are in the playoff hunt and thy're concerned with replacing Widger with Alomar....now that is essentially dumpster diving.

 

Note: I'm not defending the signing of any of the guys you mentioned , but Blanco and Restovich as back up/minor leaguers.

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Mabry lines out to Mench.

[Soriano12]

lets see if JockStrap can make contact.

[neely crenshaw]

what's jerome walton doing these days? he has got to something left in the tank!

 

seriously, wouldn't you be much more happy if next year we just let everyone we can go and played murton,cedeno,pie,theriot...and all the young pitchers. how much different would are record be from this year?

i mean right now our 1,2,3 hitters usually are

pierre, izturis and barrett!

can

pie,cedeno(or murton, or barrett or theriot),lee be worse?

judge these:

pierre .. PIE

izturis .. THERIOT

barrett .. DLEE

aram ..VS. ARAM

jones .. BARRETT

nevin .. JONES

murton .. MURTON

cedeno .. CEDENO

p .. P

Edited August 10, 2006 by neely crenshaw