Think we can repeat this gem?

[Post Count Padder]

I was browsing through past deadline deals on baseballreference.com and found this:

 

July 25, 2001 (Standings)

 

The Kansas City Royals traded Jermaine Dye to the Colorado Rockies for Neifi Perez.

 

 

Think we should make that deal now? :lol:

[CubsBullsBears]

I thought Dye played for Oakland after being traded in 2001?? I thought he and Caveman Damon were traded to the A's together??

[CuseCubFan69]

I wonder if a team has a SS go down if they would try to get Perez?

[texascub]

I wonder if a team has a SS go down if they would try to get Perez?

 

He would easily pass through waivers.

[NorthsideAvenger]

I thought Dye played for Oakland after being traded in 2001?? I thought he and Caveman Damon were traded to the A's together??

 

Johnny Damon went to the A's in a three team deal:

 

Damon to Oakland

Roberto Hernandez to KC

Ben Grieve to Tampa Bay.

 

 

Jermaine Dye went straight up for Nefti Perez.

 

Think KC isn't a foolish organization?

[JeffH]

I wonder if a team has a SS go down if they would try to get Perez?

 

He would easily pass through waivers.

 

Neifi Perez would pass through waivers with no pressure drop whatsoever. That flow would be entirely frictionless.

[Sabermetrician]

That same year Perez was traded for Tejada in my fantasy league, I recall.

[Shilzzz]

i can't believe that oakland had soooo much talent at one time

 

damon, tejada, dye, giambi, zito, mulder, hudson, chavez.

 

:shock:

[SouthSideRyan]

The Dye trade wasn't straight up, it was part of a 3 way sending some worthless junk to Colorado, Dye to Oakland, and expensive worthless junk to KC.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The Dye trade wasn't straight up, it was part of a 3 way sending some worthless junk to Colorado, Dye to Oakland, and expensive worthless junk to KC.

 

Baseball reference says it was straight up, here's what BA has to say:

 

"Oakland answered any doubts as to whether it would hold 'em or fold 'em on Wednesday when it picked up outfielder Jermaine Dye from the Royals in a three-team trade. Kansas City received shortstop Neifi Perez from the Rockies, who got minor leaguers Jose Ortiz, Mario Encarnacion and Todd Belitz from the A's."

[CubsBullsBears]

But how did both Damon and Dye end up on Oakland in 2001??

[Drew Doughty]

Jermaine Dye:

 

July 25, 2001: Traded by the Kansas City Royals to the Colorado Rockies for Neifi Perez.

 

July 25, 2001: Traded by the Colorado Rockies to the Oakland Athletics for Todd Belitz, Mario Encarnacion, and Jose Ortiz.

 

Johnny Damon:

 

Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Kansas City Royals with Mark Ellis to the Oakland Athletics. The Oakland Athletics sent Ben Grieve to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. The Oakland Athletics sent Angel Berroa and A.J. Hinch to the Kansas City Royals. The Tampa Bay Devil Rays sent Cory Lidle to the Oakland Athletics. The Tampa Bay Devil Rays sent Roberto Hernandez to the Kansas City Royals.

[NorthsideAvenger]

i can't believe that oakland had soooo much talent at one time

 

damon, tejada, dye, giambi, zito, mulder, hudson, chavez.

 

:shock:

 

They still do...Haren/Zito/Street/Swisher/Bradley/Kotsay/Crosby, they may not be as "sexy" of names as the previous regime, but that talent level is still unbelievable.

[CubColtPacer]

i can't believe that oakland had soooo much talent at one time

 

damon, tejada, dye, giambi, zito, mulder, hudson, chavez.

 

:shock:

 

They still do...Haren/Zito/Street/Swisher/Bradley/Kotsay/Crosby, they may not be as "sexy" of names as the previous regime, but that talent level is still unbelievable.

 

Um..that's like saying the Cubs talent level is unbelievable because they have Z/Ramirez/Dempster/Lee/Jones/Pierre/Murton.

 

For example, Kotsay is 2 years older than Pierre and is putting up just about identical numbers to him this year (they are within a point or two of each other). He's been a little better, but not really that much better than Pierre at the plate since 2002.

 

Bradley has been better than Jones, but he never plays anywhere he is...he's had 1 year in his whole career with more than 400 at bats, and that year he put up a .786 OPS-which is just about Jones's career average.

 

Murton has been just as good as Crosby and is 2 years younger..Crosby has a .318 career OBP with a .724 career OPS over 2 1/2 years, and Murton has a .369 and .820 career over just about 1 year now.

 

Swisher is not quite to the same level Lee was when he was 26, and Swisher is having the best year of his career so far-also, even if he does get to the level that Lee was at 26, he'd still have to break out again to get to the level Lee is at now.

 

Z matches up well with Zito-I don't think I have to prove that.

 

So then we just have Street/Haren vs. Ramirez/Dempster, but they are hard enough to compare that I'll leave them alone for now-suffice it to say it's not an obvious choice which pair you would rather have on your team.

Also, this was done for the Cubs without including Barrett or Prior or any of the young pitchers. The talent level of Oakland is just not that unbelievable.

[Prior4CyYoung]

there guys seem to be doing a lot better than ours were one of the worst teams in baseball and there leading there divison so I think its safe to say there talent > ours.

[David]

i can't believe that oakland had soooo much talent at one time

 

damon, tejada, dye, giambi, zito, mulder, hudson, chavez.

 

:shock:

 

Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Garciaparra, Lee, Ramirez, Alou, Barrett, Sosa, Clement...

 

Ugh, nevermind... I'll only get frustrated.

[CubColtPacer]

there guys seem to be doing a lot better than ours were one of the worst teams in baseball and there leading there divison so I think its safe to say there talent > ours.

 

True, but 4 out of the 7 players that were mentionedd mentioned were from their offense, who are a total of 2 runs from being 2nd to last in the major leagues-which would be right next to us. Their pitching has been very good, and that has been the big reason they have won.