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Bill Hall.Corey Hart, keep dreaming. This is 2006 not 1996. Maddux is basically a number 4 at this point of his career. Why would they give up their top prospects for a #4 ? Bill Hall is .274 17 HR 41 RBI and 26 years old.

 

Bill Hall is also a free agent after the season. Why we would want him considering that is beyond me though.

 

Well, could always sign him and play him at SS or 2b

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Bill Hall.Corey Hart, keep dreaming. This is 2006 not 1996. Maddux is basically a number 4 at this point of his career. Why would they give up their top prospects for a #4 ? Bill Hall is .274 17 HR 41 RBI and 26 years old.

 

Bill Hall is also a free agent after the season. Why we would want him considering that is beyond me though.

 

Well, they would need a second baseman considering Walker is most likely gone next season. Unless Neifi is going to be full time.

 

He also can play SS and 3b, so he is versatile if injuries occur. But, ultimately he is an upgrade at second base for the Cubs. He provides some power the Cubs could use. They would just need to make it a point to re sign him for next season. Granted, it would depend on how much/how long he is looking for in terms of his contract.

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Bill Hall.Corey Hart, keep dreaming. This is 2006 not 1996. Maddux is basically a number 4 at this point of his career. Why would they give up their top prospects for a #4 ? Bill Hall is .274 17 HR 41 RBI and 26 years old.

 

Bill Hall is also a free agent after the season. Why we would want him considering that is beyond me though.

 

Those were my thoughts as well. We can just sign Hall as a FA in the offseason. I'd ask for Hart or Gallardo.

 

Then they might have to get in a bidding war with a team that needs a second basemen.....the Mets come to mind. Unless the Mets have a prospect coming up to play second that they want to use.

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Bill Hall.Corey Hart, keep dreaming. This is 2006 not 1996. Maddux is basically a number 4 at this point of his career. Why would they give up their top prospects for a #4 ? Bill Hall is .274 17 HR 41 RBI and 26 years old.

 

Bill Hall is also a free agent after the season. Why we would want him considering that is beyond me though.

 

Well, they would need a second baseman considering Walker is most likely gone next season. Unless Neifi is going to be full time.

 

He also can play SS and 3b, so he is versatile if injuries occur. But, ultimately he is an upgrade at second base for the Cubs. He provides some power the Cubs could use. They would just need to make it a point to re sign him for next season. Granted, it would depend on how much/how long he is looking for in terms of his contract.

 

I don't think the point is that the Cubs couldn't use him, but it's foolish to trade for a player that you still have to re-sign. It's best just to go out and get him in the offseason and instead trade for a player who will be under team control for a few more years.

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Bill Hall.Corey Hart, keep dreaming. This is 2006 not 1996. Maddux is basically a number 4 at this point of his career. Why would they give up their top prospects for a #4 ? Bill Hall is .274 17 HR 41 RBI and 26 years old.

 

Bill Hall is also a free agent after the season. Why we would want him considering that is beyond me though.

 

Those were my thoughts as well. We can just sign Hall as a FA in the offseason. I'd ask for Hart or Gallardo.

 

Then they might have to get in a bidding war with a team that needs a second basemen.....the Mets come to mind. Unless the Mets have a prospect coming up to play second that they want to use.

 

Hall and his agent aren't stupid. There's little likelihood of him signing with the Cubs before testing free agency without a hefty contract.

 

PS- Bill Hall is Alfonso Soriano without the hype. Interpret that how you will.

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Bill Hall.Corey Hart, keep dreaming. This is 2006 not 1996. Maddux is basically a number 4 at this point of his career. Why would they give up their top prospects for a #4 ? Bill Hall is .274 17 HR 41 RBI and 26 years old.

 

Bill Hall is also a free agent after the season. Why we would want him considering that is beyond me though.

 

Those were my thoughts as well. We can just sign Hall as a FA in the offseason. I'd ask for Hart or Gallardo.

 

Then they might have to get in a bidding war with a team that needs a second basemen.....the Mets come to mind. Unless the Mets have a prospect coming up to play second that they want to use.

 

Hall and his agent aren't stupid. There's little likelihood of him signing with the Cubs before testing free agency without a hefty contract.

 

PS- Bill Hall is Alfonso Soriano without the hype. Interpret that how you will.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But, the Brewers don't seem to think so. They have Weeks and they seem to be set on Hardy at shortstop.

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What's Anthony Gwynn up to? Is he doing any good?

 

Does he have a chance to be anywhere near as good as his father was?

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Hart for Maddux. Done and done. Welcome to the Chicago Cubs starting OF Cory. You'll be replacing Matt Murton...or maybe Juan Pierre.
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What's Anthony Gwynn up to? Is he doing any good?

 

Does he have a chance to be anywhere near as good as his father was?

Here are his statistics at Nashville this year. I don't know how good his future is projected as (he fell out of Baseball America's top 30 prospects rankings for the Brewers this year).
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Looking at the kid a little closer, he projects to be about the same player as Aramis. More K's, but better D (assuming this year from Aramis is a fluke)
Aramis' defense was quite good in 2004 as well, so maybe last year was the fluke.
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I know a lot of people talk about how great Maddux is in the dugout to talk with and stuff, but has Maddux ever mentioned anything about getting into coaching. The way people talk, he could be one helluva pitching coach.
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Hendry is in a good position with Maddux. The Cubs don't need to trade him to get salary off the books, so any team that wants him is going to have to overpay or Maddux will simply stay put.
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Vance's dream could come true...

 

Gonzalez for manager

Maddux as pitching coach???

 

(Insert other past Braves players and coaches to fill out the rest of the coaching staff)

 

Dale Murphy

Mark Lemke

Otin Nixon

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Bill Hall is NOT a free agent after the season. He is arbitration eligible. He is also arguably the best offensive SS in the NL, so we won't be getting him for Maddux. I would love to acquire him in a trade in the offseason though. Hall is on pace for 35+ HR's and 40+ doubles and he can play 2B, SS, or CF pretty well, in addition to 3B. If the Brewers feel there isn't a place to put him everyday next year they might move him for pitching. They have Weeks at second, Hardy at SS (who I don't think is very good), Koskie at 3B with Braun moving up the minors, and not much in CF, but $3.8M committed to Brady Clark for next year.

 

I would trade Maddux to the Brewers for any 1 of the following players: Corey Hart, Ryan Braun, or Villenueva. I would also consider a package of Dana Eveland and Tony Gwynn Jr.

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I would think a swap of Maddux and Nelson Cruz is a good deal. Don't think the Brewers would give up Corey Hart. The talk about Gallardo is insane. The Brewers would only trade him for an established all-star and then some. He hasn't given up a run in AA yet.
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Jasper: There are rumors in Milwaukee that Doug Melvin is trying to work a trade for Greg Maddux. Is this a real possibility and would it help the Brew Crew make a playoff run?

 

Gene Wojciechowski: (11:36 AM ET ) It isn't a rumor. The Cubs and Brewers have chatted about this. It makes sense on a lot of levels, but a lot depends on the rehabs of two Brewer starters, including Ben Sheets. If those guys are iffy, then I think the Maddux-to-Milwaukee deal becomes a stronger possibility.

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I would think a swap of Maddux and Nelson Cruz is a good deal. Don't think the Brewers would give up Corey Hart. The talk about Gallardo is insane. The Brewers would only trade him for an established all-star and then some. He hasn't given up a run in AA yet.

 

Brewer fans talk up Cruz a bit, but I'm leary of 26 year old guys who have had 5 big league at bats. His AAA numbers are good this year, but the guy is in his 6th minor league season. Can he play CF, or is he strictly a corner outfielder? If he can play CF he is a little more intresting.

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I would think a swap of Maddux and Nelson Cruz is a good deal. Don't think the Brewers would give up Corey Hart. The talk about Gallardo is insane. The Brewers would only trade him for an established all-star and then some. He hasn't given up a run in AA yet.

 

Brewer fans talk up Cruz a bit, but I'm leary of 26 year old guys who have had 5 big league at bats. His AAA numbers are good this year, but the guy is in his 6th minor league season. Can he play CF, or is he strictly a corner outfielder? If he can play CF he is a little more intresting.

 

That's my feeling as well. Cruz is a bit old for a prospect. I'd look at some other guys within the system. I'd push for Hart and then accept a lower prospect if necessary.

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I would think a swap of Maddux and Nelson Cruz is a good deal. Don't think the Brewers would give up Corey Hart. The talk about Gallardo is insane. The Brewers would only trade him for an established all-star and then some. He hasn't given up a run in AA yet.

 

Brewer fans talk up Cruz a bit, but I'm leary of 26 year old guys who have had 5 big league at bats. His AAA numbers are good this year, but the guy is in his 6th minor league season. Can he play CF, or is he strictly a corner outfielder? If he can play CF he is a little more intresting.

 

That's my feeling as well. Cruz is a bit old for a prospect. I'd look at some other guys within the system. I'd push for Hart and then accept a lower prospect if necessary.

 

I don't know much about Hart or what the Brewers needs are but couldn't the Cubs include a bullpen arm (Novoa?) if Maddux wasn't enough by himself to get Hart?

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I would think a swap of Maddux and Nelson Cruz is a good deal. Don't think the Brewers would give up Corey Hart. The talk about Gallardo is insane. The Brewers would only trade him for an established all-star and then some. He hasn't given up a run in AA yet.

 

Brewer fans talk up Cruz a bit, but I'm leary of 26 year old guys who have had 5 big league at bats. His AAA numbers are good this year, but the guy is in his 6th minor league season. Can he play CF, or is he strictly a corner outfielder? If he can play CF he is a little more intresting.

 

That's my feeling as well. Cruz is a bit old for a prospect. I'd look at some other guys within the system. I'd push for Hart and then accept a lower prospect if necessary.

 

I don't know much about Hart or what the Brewers needs are but couldn't the Cubs include a bullpen arm (Nova?) if Maddux wasn't enough by himself to get Hart?

 

That's possible. I'd rather include Williamson than Novoa. Novoa could be a part of the Cubs' pen next season. Williamson will not.

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