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Just heard on the Score a quote by Dusty saying that a Bynum/Murton platoon is a possibility. He said Bynum has suprising power or something and a better fielder (which is true).

 

Dusty wants to platoon one of the few few players on our team that have an average OBP.

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Just heard on the Score a quote by Dusty saying that a Bynum/Murton platoon is a possibility. He said Bynum has suprising power or something and a better fielder (which is true).

 

Dusty wants to platoon one of the few few players on our team that have an average OBP.

 

Did you see Freddy steal that base in the seventh last night, dude? Need I remind you what never slumps?

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Just heard on the Score a quote by Dusty saying that a Bynum/Murton platoon is a possibility. He said Bynum has suprising power or something and a better fielder (which is true).

 

Dusty wants to platoon one of the few few players on our team that have an average OBP.

 

Dusty is genius.

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The only way change will be made is if a bomb goes off in the Cubs clubhouse with only front office personnel, Neifi, Pierre and Bynum in it.
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The only way change will be made is if a bomb goes off in the Cubs clubhouse with only front office personnel, Neifi, Pierre and Bynum in it.

 

naw, then you just see the return of Enrique Wilson

 

 

and a trade for Grissom

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I'm not sure what to think:

 

On one hand, the Cubs are terrible and Murton needs to develop. Benching him will be giving up on a developing player in his first full year.

 

On the other hand, its obvious that the Cubs coaching has gotten to him as he has gotten more agressive and less patient throughout the year. Benching him will hopefully slow down his deteriorating process.

 

*sigh* the Cubs are absolutely awful.

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The only way change will be made is if a bomb goes off in the Cubs clubhouse with only front office personnel, Neifi, Pierre and Bynum in it.

 

naw, then you just see the return of Enrique Wilson

 

 

and a trade for Grissom

That's why front office is included. The Cubs would need a new front office, presumably one not stupid enough to sign Enrique and Marquis.

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The only way change will be made is if a bomb goes off in the Cubs clubhouse with only front office personnel, Neifi, Pierre and Bynum in it.

 

naw, then you just see the return of Enrique Wilson

 

 

and a trade for Grissom

 

Don't forget about Jose Macias.

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Just heard on the Score a quote by Dusty saying that a Bynum/Murton platoon is a possibility. He said Bynum has suprising power or something and a better fielder (which is true).

 

Dusty wants to platoon one of the few few players on our team that have an average OBP.

 

Bynum is a god

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I'm not sure what to think:

 

On one hand, the Cubs are terrible and Murton needs to develop. Benching him will be giving up on a developing player in his first full year.

 

On the other hand, its obvious that the Cubs coaching has gotten to him as he has gotten more agressive and less patient throughout the year. Benching him will hopefully slow down his deteriorating process.

 

*sigh* the Cubs are absolutely awful.

 

Doesn't it make you sad that the coaches "getting to the player" is a horrible thing? Is everyone blind in this organization? Are they doing this becauase of spite of what everyone says, or are they truly clueless. I have a hard time believing they believe their path is the correct one...don't the watch this team everyday? God help us

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not wanting to play devil's advocate, but versus righties Murton has been absolutely awful:

 

.228 .298 .297 .595

 

slugging .297--yikes.

 

Does struggling like that erode his confidence? Who knows.

Maybe a platoon isn't the worst idea. Well, a platoon with someone other than Freddie would be nice....how about Z?

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I might be in the minority on this but if this were to happen it would not bother me as much as Perez playing and batting second, or Pierre continuing to bat lead-off. I like Murton but he's not good against righties and he's been absolutely horrible on the road vs. at home. And his .345 OBP is overrated because he was at .370 two or three weeks ago. It is also my opinion that Bynum makes that catch in left field last night possibly helping us win. I still see no reason why Hendry traded for Bynum and he's not very good, but this move would bother much less than other moves.
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Great, Rusch is being given another start, Neifi's playing the past several games, and now this.

 

Is there any other team in baseball that continually and repeatedly gives their worst players so much playing time??? :x

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not wanting to play devil's advocate, but versus righties Murton has been absolutely awful:

 

.228 .298 .297 .595

 

slugging .297--yikes.

 

Does struggling like that erode his confidence? Who knows.

Maybe a platoon isn't the worst idea. Well, a platoon with someone other than Freddie would be nice....how about Z?

Platooning w/ Bynum is a terrible idea. His numbers for the year:

 

AVG .233 OBP. .270.

 

Vs Righties:

 

AVG .235 OBP. .264

 

Yeah, big improvement there Baker, you idiot.

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not wanting to play devil's advocate, but versus righties Murton has been absolutely awful:

 

.228 .298 .297 .595

 

slugging .297--yikes.

 

Does struggling like that erode his confidence? Who knows.

Maybe a platoon isn't the worst idea. Well, a platoon with someone other than Freddie would be nice....how about Z?

 

Murton gets a free pass (I don't know why) from some because he's under 28 years old.

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not wanting to play devil's advocate, but versus righties Murton has been absolutely awful:

 

.228 .298 .297 .595

 

slugging .297--yikes.

 

Does struggling like that erode his confidence? Who knows.

Maybe a platoon isn't the worst idea. Well, a platoon with someone other than Freddie would be nice....how about Z?

 

Murton gets a free pass (I don't know why) from some because he's under 28 years old.

Honestly, let's face the facts, we are completely out of the running to make the playoffs and for Murton this would be his first full year here. When Bynum is the other option in LF and his numbers are worse than Murton's well why not give Murton the experience? You cannot expect players to just come up from the minors and start hitting right away, especially when we have the worst coaching staff in the majors.

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not wanting to play devil's advocate, but versus righties Murton has been absolutely awful:

 

.228 .298 .297 .595

 

slugging .297--yikes.

 

Does struggling like that erode his confidence? Who knows.

Maybe a platoon isn't the worst idea. Well, a platoon with someone other than Freddie would be nice....how about Z?

 

Murton gets a free pass (I don't know why) from some because he's under 28 years old.

 

Are you kidding me? You don't know why? It's because of the likelihood of improvement, and expectations coming in. The so-called free pass is given by sane and logical people who don't think a kid has to be great from day one in the majors. I for one didn't expect a lot from Murton this year. If he was going to be a starter, I wanted a great player on the other corner. Otherwise, he should have been platooned. But with a hack like Bynum? What's the point?

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not wanting to play devil's advocate, but versus righties Murton has been absolutely awful:

 

.228 .298 .297 .595

 

slugging .297--yikes.

 

Does struggling like that erode his confidence? Who knows.

Maybe a platoon isn't the worst idea. Well, a platoon with someone other than Freddie would be nice....how about Z?

 

Murton gets a free pass (I don't know why) from some because he's under 28 years old.

 

Are you kidding me? You don't know why? It's because of the likelihood of improvement, and expectations coming in. The so-called free pass is given by sane and logical people who don't think a kid has to be great from day one in the majors. I for one didn't expect a lot from Murton this year. If he was going to be a starter, I wanted a great player on the other corner. Otherwise, he should have been platooned. But with a hack like Bynum? What's the point?

 

Are you kidding me??? Let me restate my point, platooning Bynum and Murton is lower on my list of concerns right now. We need new and better personnel on this team. Bynum sucks but so does Murton, right now. And what liklihood of getting better? Yes, he could get better (and for the record I like Murton) or maybe he falls under the "liklihood of getting better" just like Bobby Hill and Hee Seop Choi did, I don't know. Bynum sucks, but Murton has been horrible against righties and his OBP is steadily dropping. I would love to see a Murton/Jones platoon, but our genius of a GM and our genius manager can't put together a good ballclub to do that. And you're a better prognasticator than I because I thought Murton would be much better this year.

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Bynum has no upside and hopefully no future with this team.

 

But it would be just like Hendry and Baker to stunt the growth of a younger player with potential to make sure the teams that are actually still in it get honest competition.

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i've never been huge on murton, and i'd be all for a platoon. however, i would like that platoon to be w/ him and jones, w/ a stud at the other corner OF spot.

 

and that was what i wanted at the beginning of the season (when the cubs had a chance to be good). now that they're hopelessly out of it, i'd rather see murton out there every day.

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not wanting to play devil's advocate, but versus righties Murton has been absolutely awful:

 

.228 .298 .297 .595

 

slugging .297--yikes.

 

Does struggling like that erode his confidence? Who knows.

Maybe a platoon isn't the worst idea. Well, a platoon with someone other than Freddie would be nice....how about Z?

 

Murton gets a free pass (I don't know why) from some because he's under 28 years old.

Honestly, let's face the facts, we are completely out of the running to make the playoffs and for Murton this would be his first full year here. When Bynum is the other option in LF and his numbers are worse than Murton's well why not give Murton the experience? You cannot expect players to just come up from the minors and start hitting right away, especially when we have the worst coaching staff in the majors.

 

Actually, I'm delusional because I won't completely count us out of the playoffs unless we are 10+ games out at the All-Star break. Having said that, Murton has not been that good and he's better than Bynum but not by a significant amount to think this team would be better with him solely in left vs. a platoon. Ideally, Murton and Jones should platoon, but that would mean a below avg. right fielder every game. Murton has started in 50+ games and even in a platoon he'll still get a good number of at-bats. He was pretty much set up for failure by our genius GM because Murton should only be starting if we had another high OPS on this team (even assuming Ramirez would've had his normal high OPS year). Basically, to me, we're getting upset over a D- player playing games over a D+ player.

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Basically, to me, we're getting upset over a D- player playing games over a D+ player.

 

i'm not big on murton, and i didn't expect much from him this year, but to call him a D+ player is pretty ridiculous. every gm in the majors would take murton over bynum, without a doubt.

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