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Just injuries? Or perhaps not all that excited about playing for Baker, hence less prepared, hence more susceptible to injury---?

 

I guess we'll never know.

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Since Hendry got burned with Nomar, it would have made him look like a genius if he were stubborn and signed him for another year. How long he can hold up without injury is the question, but right now he sure has given the Dodgers a boost and is playing like an allstar!
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<--------Wanted Nomar resigned and wasn't the slightest bit bashful in saying so.

 

Nomar's my favorite player, I really wish we'd have re-signed him.

 

 

Wow, that was a bad error...

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Just injuries? Or perhaps not all that excited about playing for Baker, hence less prepared, hence more susceptible to injury---?

 

I guess we'll never know.

 

I believe Nomar had the whole "not all that excited about playing" problem before he came to the Cubs. He wasn't too happy in 2004 with Boston and that's the main reason they traded him.

 

And I'm sure Nomar was really trying to completely tear his groin also. That was all part of his master plan to get away from Dusty.

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*patiently waits to bump this thread when Nomar goes into his inevitable slump because he is an extremely streaky player*
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That's good to hear. I felt bad for the guy the past couple years with all the injuries.

I feel bad for us moreso than I feel bad for him.

 

He did have the whole issue of being an outsider on his team (Boston), then getting shipped away for a couple players that played key roles in his old team winning the World Series. The guy was the face of Boston baseball for a few years with Pedro Martinez.

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That's good to hear. I felt bad for the guy the past couple years with all the injuries.

I feel bad for us moreso than I feel bad for him.

 

He did have the whole issue of being an outsider on his team (Boston), then getting shipped away for a couple players that played key roles in his old team winning the World Series. The guy was the face of Boston baseball for a few years with Pedro Martinez.

I feel bad for us because truth be told we didn't get squat out of Nomar. You can't blame him for getting injured and what not but that doesn't change the fact we didn't get squat out of him.

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Just injuries? Or perhaps not all that excited about playing for Baker, hence less prepared, hence more susceptible to injury---?

 

I guess we'll never know.

 

I believe Nomar had the whole "not all that excited about playing" problem before he came to the Cubs. He wasn't too happy in 2004 with Boston and that's the main reason they traded him.

 

And I'm sure Nomar was really trying to completely tear his groin also. That was all part of his master plan to get away from Dusty.

 

It was one of the most freakish serious injuries I've ever seen.

 

At least consider the possibility that lack of preparation before the game contributed to that one. At least *consider* it.

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Just injuries? Or perhaps not all that excited about playing for Baker, hence less prepared, hence more susceptible to injury---?

 

I guess we'll never know.

 

I believe Nomar had the whole "not all that excited about playing" problem before he came to the Cubs. He wasn't too happy in 2004 with Boston and that's the main reason they traded him.

 

And I'm sure Nomar was really trying to completely tear his groin also. That was all part of his master plan to get away from Dusty.

 

It was one of the most freakish serious injuries I've ever seen.

 

At least consider the possibility that lack of preparation before the game contributed to that one. At least *consider* it.

 

Wouldn't that be his own fault though not Baker's? Isn't it a player's job to get himself ready to play for the game. Taking batting/fielding practice is one thing, but shouldn't an adult, and somebody who has been in the league for a number of years know how to get himself ready to play. I don't think any of what happened to Nomar is Baker's fault.

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Yeah, Nomar hated Dusty, and couldn't wait to get out of Chicago so he could start trying again. It explains why he all but begged Hendry to re-sign him at a discount.
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I'm glad he's doing what he's capable of, again. He seems like a real great guy. I wish we would have resigned him, of course, Cedeno is doing pretty darn well, too.
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Where would you guys have figured Nomar to play this year if we had signed him?

 

I don't think he could still be a middle IF. Plus we have a ton of dough invested in Aram, and nobody knew Lee would get hurt. It seems like OF would've been Nomar's only spot had we signed him.

 

Shoot, Nomar, Jones, and Murton sharing the corner OF spots would be an upgrade, even if Nomar proved to be a butcher OFer.

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Where would you guys have figured Nomar to play this year if we had signed him?

 

I don't think he could still be a middle IF. Plus we have a ton of dough invested in Aram, and nobody knew Lee would get hurt. It seems like OF would've been Nomar's only spot had we signed him.

 

Shoot, Nomar, Jones, and Murton sharing the corner OF spots would be an upgrade, even if Nomar proved to be a butcher OFer.

 

Nomar @ 2B, Walker in RF maybe?

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Just injuries? Or perhaps not all that excited about playing for Baker, hence less prepared, hence more susceptible to injury---?

 

I guess we'll never know.

 

I believe Nomar had the whole "not all that excited about playing" problem before he came to the Cubs. He wasn't too happy in 2004 with Boston and that's the main reason they traded him.

 

And I'm sure Nomar was really trying to completely tear his groin also. That was all part of his master plan to get away from Dusty.

 

It was one of the most freakish serious injuries I've ever seen.

 

At least consider the possibility that lack of preparation before the game contributed to that one. At least *consider* it.

 

Wouldn't that be his own fault though not Baker's? Isn't it a player's job to get himself ready to play for the game. Taking batting/fielding practice is one thing, but shouldn't an adult, and somebody who has been in the league for a number of years know how to get himself ready to play. I don't think any of what happened to Nomar is Baker's fault.

 

Yeah, it would be his own fault. I'd like a climate of winning on the North Side though, and we have a climate of losing-----for 97 years.

 

I look to ownership/GM/Manager to provide a climate of winning first, then the players follow suit. Does anyone seriously doubt that if Nomar resigned he would have either proceeded directly to the DL or gone into a Pierre-esque slump? Of course he would have.

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Just injuries? Or perhaps not all that excited about playing for Baker, hence less prepared, hence more susceptible to injury---?

 

I guess we'll never know.

 

I believe Nomar had the whole "not all that excited about playing" problem before he came to the Cubs. He wasn't too happy in 2004 with Boston and that's the main reason they traded him.

 

And I'm sure Nomar was really trying to completely tear his groin also. That was all part of his master plan to get away from Dusty.

 

It was one of the most freakish serious injuries I've ever seen.

 

At least consider the possibility that lack of preparation before the game contributed to that one. At least *consider* it.

 

Wouldn't that be his own fault though not Baker's? Isn't it a player's job to get himself ready to play for the game. Taking batting/fielding practice is one thing, but shouldn't an adult, and somebody who has been in the league for a number of years know how to get himself ready to play. I don't think any of what happened to Nomar is Baker's fault.

 

Yeah, it would be his own fault. I'd like a climate of winning on the North Side though, and we have a climate of losing-----for 97 years.

 

I look to ownership/GM/Manager to provide a climate of winning first, then the players follow suit. Does anyone seriously doubt that if Nomar resigned he would have either proceeded directly to the DL or gone into a Pierre-esque slump? Of course he would have.

 

I don't know about the slump, but based on Nomar's history I would have been surprised if he DIDN'T get hurt this year had he resigned with the Cubs. And considering he started the season on the DL with the Dodgers, that would be a pretty good assumption.

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