What about Choi?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Choi's rehab assignment with the Red Sox ends in five days. According to the Boston Herald, they Red Sox plan on keeping him at Pawtuckett instead of activating him.

 

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What sort of offer would interest Boston?

 

Would they deal Choi for a reliever such as Wuertz?

[ltb]

they'll keep him at pawtucket because he has an option left. they have no real reason to get rid of him - at least not unless it was made worth their while (read: overpaying).

[soccer10k]

Choi is absolutely not worth trading for.

[treebird]

Choi is absolutely not worth trading for.

 

yeah, he'd probably just hit 250/360/430 for us. we sure dont need that.

[Neuby]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

[goonys evil twin]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

 

What if you overpay for Clark? My love for Choi has fallen quite a bit. But he's hardly worthless. Choi actually could very easily have a career similar to Clark's. And Clark is no guarantee to produce much of anything.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

 

.240/.349/.437/.786, Choi's career numbers

 

Can you reasonably expect Clark to do much better?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

 

.240/.349/.437/.786, Choi's career numbers

 

Can you reasonably expect Clark to do much better?

 

Excellent point.

 

I'm not advocating Choi because of his days as a Cubs' prospect.

 

Right now the firstbase options that could be acquired are as follows: Carlos Pena, Tony Clark, Choi, Miekiewiwiwitiitititz, and Hinske. None of those really look too hot.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I like Big Choi.

[PortlandCubsFan]

I think Choi would be a great pickup.

 

Apparently, there are some rumors about the Cubs pursuing another Red Sox 1b, JT Snow -- sonsofsamhorn.com poster quoting XM radio.

 

We know that Baker wants Snow, but I'd much rather see us get Choi.

 

Boston really needs a SP. Jerome Williams for Choi makes sense, though I see Williams' value as higher than either Choi or Snow. Cubs would probably want a minor leaguer back in either trade.

 

Boston will probably try to pry away Hill or Ryu, but I don't see that happening, unless we get back a very good prospect along with Choi/Snow.

 

This one has legs.

[Jehrico]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

 

.240/.349/.437/.786, Choi's career numbers

 

Can you reasonably expect Clark to do much better?

 

Excellent point.

 

I'm not advocating Choi because of his days as a Cubs' prospect.

 

Right now the firstbase options that could be acquired are as follows: Carlos Pena, Tony Clark, Choi, Miekiewiwiwitiitititz, and Hinske. None of those really look too hot.

 

Pena will become a FA if the Yanks don't put him on their 25 man roster by May 2nd. He might be available for free.

[Wheelimus]

Unless you can get one of those for a low A ball prospect, just wait to get Carlos for free.

[LeftCoastCubFan]

Choi doesn't make much sense. Take away his numbers through April, and he's about a .221/.326/.401 hitter the rest of the year. He can only play one position and would be relagated to a pinch hitter only the rest of the year when Lee returns where he is .123/.247/.200 for his career.

 

The best you can hope for is a few good weeks until the league catches up with him. But as Dusty would say, "They've got the book published on Big Choi".

[CubfaninCA]

Play Choi every day and he won't sniff .249. Tracy sat him a lot in LA.

[Mark Priors Calves]

Play Choi every day and he won't sniff .249. Tracy sat him a lot in LA.

He hit .253 last year with the Dodgers, so I think its reasonable to assume he would be capable of that again. Besides, his OBP is his key number.

[snoodmonger]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

 

.240/.349/.437/.786, Choi's career numbers

 

Can you reasonably expect Clark to do much better?

 

No, you can't. Especially when you realize 2005 Clark had "Huge Freaking Anomaly" written all over him.

[Laura]

If we can trade them Fast Freddy Bynum, I'd consider it.

[RynoRules]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

 

.240/.349/.437/.786, Choi's career numbers

 

Can you reasonably expect Clark to do much better?

 

No, you can't. Especially when you realize 2005 Clark had "Huge Freaking Anomaly" written all over him.

 

Clark is not an anamoly. He has had several seasons where his OBP was over .350 (about five or six, IIRC). He hits for better average than Choi, though their OBPs are similar. I'd imagine Tony has a bit more pop, but not sure.

[ltb]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

 

.240/.349/.437/.786, Choi's career numbers

 

Can you reasonably expect Clark to do much better?

 

No, you can't. Especially when you realize 2005 Clark had "Huge Freaking Anomaly" written all over him.

 

Clark is not an anamoly. He has had several seasons where his OBP was over .350 (about five or six, IIRC).

 

4 of .350+, not counting 2005. the last of those seasons was also in 2001, after which he put up obps of: .265, .300, .297.

 

2005 was a huge spike in numbers that can't be expected to be even close to repeated.

[RynoRules]

please guys stop with the Choi love the guy isn't going to cut it , we should go get Tony Clark. Not overpay for a prospect that never panned out because were still attached to him from his past glory days as a Cubs farmhand.

 

.240/.349/.437/.786, Choi's career numbers

 

Can you reasonably expect Clark to do much better?

 

No, you can't. Especially when you realize 2005 Clark had "Huge Freaking Anomaly" written all over him.

 

Clark is not an anamoly. He has had several seasons where his OBP was over .350 (about five or six, IIRC).

 

4 of .350+, not counting 2005. the last of those seasons was also in 2001, after which he put up obps of: .265, .300, .297.

 

2005 was a huge spike in numbers that can't be expected to be even close to repeated.

 

For reasons I stated in the Clark thread, I disagree.

[beowulf28]

Play Choi every day and he won't sniff .249. Tracy sat him a lot in LA.

He hit .253 last year with the Dodgers, so I think its reasonable to assume he would be capable of that again. Besides, his OBP is his key number.

 

Why are we talking about playing Choi every day? When D. Lee comes back, he will be playing every day. What we would need would be someone who can play first base sometimes, and possibly play other positions as well. Or come off the bench to pinch hit, etc,...I would much rather have Cuddyer for the first reason (he can play OF as well as 1b), or would prefer Clark backing up 1b for the second reason. (pinch hitting.) Besides, we've already tried Choi, and wasn't the answer.

[brinoch]

Play Choi every day and he won't sniff .249. Tracy sat him a lot in LA.

He hit .253 last year with the Dodgers, so I think its reasonable to assume he would be capable of that again. Besides, his OBP is his key number.

 

Why are we talking about playing Choi every day? When D. Lee comes back, he will be playing every day. What we would need would be someone who can play first base sometimes, and possibly play other positions as well. Or come off the bench to pinch hit, etc,...I would much rather have Cuddyer for the first reason (he can play OF as well as 1b), or would prefer Clark backing up 1b for the second reason. (pinch hitting.) Besides, we've already tried Choi, and wasn't the answer.

 

We can stash Choi in the minors when Lee comes back. Additionally, he adds left-handed power to the bench and gets on base at a good clip.

[LeftCoastCubFan]

Additionally, he adds left-handed power to the bench and gets on base at a good clip.

If only he was an effective pinch hitter. .123/.247/.200 makes Jose Macias look like Bonds.

[treebird]

Additionally, he adds left-handed power to the bench and gets on base at a good clip.

If only he was an effective pinch hitter. .123/.247/.200 makes Jose Macias look like Bonds.

 

123/247/200 as a ph in 63 at bats

253/361/463 as not a ph in 802 at bats

 

does it really make sense to go ahead and decide he's not a good pinch hitter based on these limited numbers?

[RynoRules]

Additionally, he adds left-handed power to the bench and gets on base at a good clip.

If only he was an effective pinch hitter. .123/.247/.200 makes Jose Macias look like Bonds.

 

123/247/200 as a ph in 63 at bats

253/361/463 as not a ph in 802 at bats

 

does it really make sense to go ahead and decide he's not a good pinch hitter based on these limited numbers?

 

63 at bats is reasonable no., IMO. We have made judgments on less. That said, I'd still take a flier on him on the cheap.