Lee (fractures, 8-12 weeks) and Eyre (day to day) hurt

[Danny82]

Florida has more needs though. Pie is premium, young talent IMO. With all the big teams looking for pitching, imagine would Florida could get for Prior once he gets rolling? I think you add that to Pie and it would be a better package that they could get from anyone else for Cabrera.

 

Prior has started 48 games over the last two years. He's missed a lot of starts. Maybe around 16 or so? Miguel Cabrera has missed a grand total of 6 games over the last two years.

 

Prospect-wise, Hanley and Pie are right around the same (top 20-30 prospect in the game), but Cabrera is Pujols II... while Prior certainly has that type of potential (to be one of the best players of this era), he is way too big of a question mark.

 

 

I really don't think the Cubs have what it takes to get Cabrera. You're looking at a team like the Diamondbacks or the Angels with absolutely loaded systems if you wanna see a team make a run at Miguel.

 

What about Prior and Guzman or Hill for Teixeira? Would Texas go for it?

That makes about zero sense after the next two months.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

The problem with wrist injuries is that they linger. This is a lot bigger than some 2-3 month DL stint.

[JC]

Florida has more needs though. Pie is premium, young talent IMO. With all the big teams looking for pitching, imagine would Florida could get for Prior once he gets rolling? I think you add that to Pie and it would be a better package that they could get from anyone else for Cabrera.

 

Prior has started 48 games over the last two years. He's missed a lot of starts. Maybe around 16 or so? Miguel Cabrera has missed a grand total of 6 games over the last two years.

 

Prospect-wise, Hanley and Pie are right around the same (top 20-30 prospect in the game), but Cabrera is Pujols II... while Prior certainly has that type of potential (to be one of the best players of this era), he is way too big of a question mark.

 

 

I really don't think the Cubs have what it takes to get Cabrera. You're looking at a team like the Diamondbacks or the Angels with absolutely loaded systems if you wanna see a team make a run at Miguel.

 

What about Prior and Guzman or Hill for Teixeira? Would Texas go for it?

That makes about zero sense after the next two months.

 

While I don't necessaryily advocate for it, Teixeira could be moved to a corner OF spot.

[obcubs]

The problem with wrist injuries is that they linger. This is a lot bigger than some 2-3 month DL stint.

Sad but very true.

[Coach C]

Well, if he's out 8-10 weeks...I expect a trade of some time . I don't see the Cubs content to have Walker at first for that long or to use Mabry for an everyday starter. I don't think Sing or Restovich are long term answers either.

 

The question then becomes who can you get? We know we'll have to overpay because of the desperation of the situation...so I bring you the candidates:

 

1. Aubrey Huff- The Devil Rays won't contend this year, and moving Huff could make some sense for them. He's started really slow this year (think Jacque Jones slow), so he might be cheaper than other alternatives.

 

2. Phil Nevin- Right now, Nevin is the fulltime DH in Texas and is having a power surge even if his average sucks. Texas would want pitching in any deal.

 

3. Tony Clark- After a great year last season, Clark started slowly this year. With Conner Jackson ready to play everyday, the Diamondbacks might be motivated to move Clark and his contract.

 

4. Mike Sweeney- He has a big contract and KC sucks.

 

5. Other guys that could end up available: Choi, Lowell, Franco, Durazo, Ward

 

Trust me, the Cubs does not need Mike Sweeney. He's horrible as a 1B. Sweeney is more of a DH than a first baseman.

[soccer10k]

The problem with wrist injuries is that they linger. This is a lot bigger than some 2-3 month DL stint.

Sad but very true.

 

Couldn't a bad sprain actually be worse than a break?

[srbin84]

The problem with wrist injuries is that they linger. This is a lot bigger than some 2-3 month DL stint.

 

I don't know how it compares but when Grudz broke his hand, he came back on fire.

[Andy]

I refuse to believe in the goat curse or any other curse.

 

That said, clearly there are some larger forces at work here. The most un-injurable player perhaps in all of baseball goes down for 8-10 weeks en route to a .320/.400/.620 type season, what are we supposed to do????

 

Believe bracelet removed. I'll still watch the games, but I'm not putting in any stock into this season anymore. It's unbelievable the things that happen to this team. UN-BE-LIEV-A-BLE. Last year the Sox get career years out of about 13 pitchers and 5 hitters, and then they trade Rowand for Jim Thome and he's going to hit 50 homers this season.

 

The Cubs lock up the best hitter in the game not named Pujols at below market value for five years and he goes down with an injury a week later. Just amazing.

 

I hate sports.

[Jon]

The problem with wrist injuries is that they linger. This is a lot bigger than some 2-3 month DL stint.

Sad but very true.

 

Couldn't a bad sprain actually be worse than a break?

That was that case with Pie last year. Hopefully there wasn't any other damage than just the fractures.

[Chris]

The problem with wrist injuries is that they linger. This is a lot bigger than some 2-3 month DL stint.

Sad but very true.

 

Couldn't a bad sprain actually be worse than a break?

That was that case with Pie last year. Hopefully there wasn't any other damage than just the fractures.

 

Agreed. Pie's case was one where it would've been better that he broke it.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Speaking of potential Lee replacements (I'm not sure if his name was mentioned earlier), how about Erubiel Durazo?

[srbin84]

Speaking of potential Lee replacements (I'm not sure if his name was mentioned earlier), how about Erubiel Durazo?

 

I mentioned it and some thought he couldn't handle first base defensively.

[USSoccer]

One thing to keep in mind about Lee's defense is that it's not so much him saving errors on bad throws but his lateral movement that allows the 2B to cheat towards the middle.

 

Lots of 1B can dig out bad throws. I forsee Baker going with a lot of Walker at 1B and Neifi or Hairston at 2B to try and plug that gap.

[NCCubFan]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

[Blueheart05]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

 

I totally agree.

[USSoccer]

In the next month and a half we play 9 games against decent teams. The rest of the team we play are Florida, the Nats, San Diego, Atlanta, the Giants, the D'Backs and the Reds.

 

This is a challenge, but it doesn't sink us like it would have had it happened in June.

[Andy]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

No one is suggesting the Cubs will mail it in or that they won't put up a fight. We're saying this team isn't good enough to do it effectively enough to win consistently.

[Warpticon]

Speaking of potential Lee replacements (I'm not sure if his name was mentioned earlier), how about Erubiel Durazo?

 

I mentioned it and some thought he couldn't handle first base defensively.

 

E3PO can mash, but he's horrible defensively. With the issues on the left side of the infield, I'm not sure he'd be worth the defensive sacrifice.

[Blueheart05]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

No one is suggesting the Cubs will mail it in or that they won't put up a fight. We're saying this team isn't good enough to do it effectively enough to win consistently.

 

Pitching will be the key over the long haul. The club can thrive with less offense if it's pitchers aren't giving up too many runs (LOL, I know that's a big DUH).

 

I'm optimistic about this team primarily because there are three good pitchers who aren't that far away from making a positive impact.

[Soul]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

No one is suggesting the Cubs will mail it in or that they won't put up a fight. We're saying this team isn't good enough to do it effectively enough to win consistently.

 

Pitching will be the key over the long haul. The club can thrive with less offense if it's pitchers aren't giving up too many runs (LOL, I know that's a big DUH).

 

I'm optimistic about this team primarily because there are three good pitchers who aren't that far away from making a positive impact on the.

 

Wood takes forever to regain control after a D/L stint though. Prior hopefully can come back quicker in terms of time post-D/L before he's pitching 100%.

 

Oddly enough, I'm intrigued most by Miller. Everyone's just hoping for a contribution of some kind, but this guy has had success in the league before. When he's right, he knows how to pitch.

[YearofDaCubs]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

No one is suggesting the Cubs will mail it in or that they won't put up a fight. We're saying this team isn't good enough to do it effectively enough to win consistently.

 

Pitching will be the key over the long haul. The club can thrive with less offense if it's pitchers aren't giving up too many runs (LOL, I know that's a big DUH).

 

I'm optimistic about this team primarily because there are three good pitchers who aren't that far away from making a positive impact.

You are assuming they will be making a positive impact but in reality when all three are coming off inuries and two of the pitchers have severe injuries we don't know what we will be getting.

[Blueheart05]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

No one is suggesting the Cubs will mail it in or that they won't put up a fight. We're saying this team isn't good enough to do it effectively enough to win consistently.

 

Pitching will be the key over the long haul. The club can thrive with less offense if it's pitchers aren't giving up too many runs (LOL, I know that's a big DUH).

 

I'm optimistic about this team primarily because there are three good pitchers who aren't that far away from making a positive impact on the.

 

Wood takes forever to regain control after a D/L stint though. Prior hopefully can come back quicker in terms of time post-D/L before he's pitching 100%.

 

Oddly enough, I'm intrigued most by Miller. Everyone's just hoping for a contribution of some kind, but this guy has had success in the league before. When he's right, he knows how to pitch.

 

I'm intrigued by him as well and no one is talking about what he could provide... I'm also going to give Wood the benefit of the doubt. Stone said he saw Wood throw in LA and that he looked really good. He also said that Kerry has "totally" changed his mechanics and that Kerry would be going on a rehab assignment within a week or so (he'll probably get 2 to 3 starts).

Edited April 21, 2006 by Blueheart05

[Blueheart05]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

No one is suggesting the Cubs will mail it in or that they won't put up a fight. We're saying this team isn't good enough to do it effectively enough to win consistently.

 

Pitching will be the key over the long haul. The club can thrive with less offense if it's pitchers aren't giving up too many runs (LOL, I know that's a big DUH).

 

I'm optimistic about this team primarily because there are three good pitchers who aren't that far away from making a positive impact.

You are assuming they will be making a positive impact but in reality when all three are coming off inuries and two of the pitchers have severe injuries we don't know what we will be getting.

 

You're assuming that they won't make a positive impact. I know they can't be any worse than having Glendon, Jerome, and Sean in the rotation. At least Kerry, Mark, and Wade have the ability to overpower hitters and because of their reputations/ prior success they will give batters reason to pause instead of licking their chops at the thought of facing them.

[YearofDaCubs]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

No one is suggesting the Cubs will mail it in or that they won't put up a fight. We're saying this team isn't good enough to do it effectively enough to win consistently.

 

Pitching will be the key over the long haul. The club can thrive with less offense if it's pitchers aren't giving up too many runs (LOL, I know that's a big DUH).

 

I'm optimistic about this team primarily because there are three good pitchers who aren't that far away from making a positive impact.

You are assuming they will be making a positive impact but in reality when all three are coming off inuries and two of the pitchers have severe injuries we don't know what we will be getting.

 

You're assuming that they won't make a positive impact. I know they can't be any worse than having Glendon, Jerome, and Sean in the rotation. At least Kerry, Mark, and Wade have the ability to overpower hitters and because of their reputations/ prior success they will give batters reason to pause instead of licking their chops at the thought of facing them.

Did you not see how bad Miller was when he was with the Red SOx last year? He was throwing 86mph fastballs not fooling anybody. Thinking he will come back and have a positive impact when he looked so bad last year is a stretch. I personally think Prior will be fine if he comes back but to me Wood is also a ? mark. He had shoulder surgery and changed his mechanics. I would err on the side of caution when all these changes are taking place on a pitcher.

[Soul]

Despite what some people are saying, the season is NOT over. This is a huge blow, but good teams can overcome huge blows, and the Cubs have shown that they are a good team this year. The other players simply must step up and earn their salaries. The key is to tread water and be within striking distance. The second half of the season could be very good, once Lee and the injured pitchers are back. If the current players can't get it done, Hendry will make a move. He's shown that in the past.

 

Reason for frustration and disappointment? Yes. Reason to mail in the season? No. I simply refuse to accept a third consecutive lost season due to injuries without putting up a fight.

No one is suggesting the Cubs will mail it in or that they won't put up a fight. We're saying this team isn't good enough to do it effectively enough to win consistently.

 

Pitching will be the key over the long haul. The club can thrive with less offense if it's pitchers aren't giving up too many runs (LOL, I know that's a big DUH).

 

I'm optimistic about this team primarily because there are three good pitchers who aren't that far away from making a positive impact.

You are assuming they will be making a positive impact but in reality when all three are coming off inuries and two of the pitchers have severe injuries we don't know what we will be getting.

 

You're assuming that they won't make a positive impact. I know they can't be any worse than having Glendon, Jerome, and Sean in the rotation. At least Kerry, Mark, and Wade have the ability to overpower hitters and because of their reputations/ prior success they will give batters reason to pause instead of licking their chops at the thought of facing them.

Did you not see how bad Miller was when he was with the Red SOx last year? He was throwing 86mph fastballs not fooling anybody. Thinking he will come back and have a positive impact when he looked so bad last year is a stretch. I personally think Prior will be fine if he comes back but to me Wood is also a ? mark. He had shoulder surgery and changed his mechanics. I would err on the side of caution when all these changes are taking place on a pitcher.

 

Alot of what you say is true, but you do realize Miller was pitching with a bad arm last year, which is why he had surgery. Right?