THE worst Defensive Catcher I've ever seen

[srbin84]

If the Cubs lose this one, chalk it up to Barrett, who is THE worst defensive Catcher I've ever seen.

 

I take it you didn't watch any Mets games with Piazza behind the plate in the last few years.

 

What the hell are you all talking about. There is only one.

 

http://reds.enquirer.com/2002/06/26/redslarue_zoom.jpg

[moorecg]

let the overreactions begin!

 

An overreaction can't be something I've said for the past 3 seasons. I find it a little hard to understand how people can actually defend his Defensive abilities. Seriously. Do you actually watch the games? Amazing.

 

Like I said, very good hitter but c'mon he is a TERRIBLE Catcher. This garbage is nothing new here.

 

SO again, let's all just agree as a whole and move onto another topic we can easily disagree on and LEGITAMTELY debate, for example whether or not it's impossible for a team to win the Division with Jones hitting 5th in the order.

 

Hey, I don't like his defense/game calling either, but he's the best we have. You don't want to see Blanco or Soto starting, do you?

 

No, just for everyone on here who have defended his atrocious Catching abilities and actually think he's good behind the plate to swollow their pride (or pull their heads out of the as$es) and admit he is not only not good, he's plainly terrible.

 

Have you been talking to the guy who says Cedeno is plainly Crap. You guys should meet.

[ltb]

etc etc etc offensive garbage etc etc etc

 

all you're doing is insulting others now, calm down, kiddo

[Ding Dong Johnson]

No, just for everyone on here who have defended his atrocious Catching abilities and actually think he's good behind the plate to swollow their pride (or pull their heads out of the as$es) and admit he is not only not good, he's plainly terrible.

 

I'd be insulted by that post if you actually had compelling evidence to support your original claim.

[AI]

I think its ok to question Barrett's defensive abilities. I do think its kinda ridiculous to call him the worst defensive catcher that someone has ever seen, unless of course today is the only game he's ever watched.

[BigbadB]

as$es

 

What is the purpose of this? Does this strengthen your side of this debate? I don't think so.

[2242005CY]

let the overreactions begin!

 

An overreaction can't be something I've said for the past 3 seasons. I find it a little hard to understand how people can actually defend his Defensive abilities. Seriously. Do you actually watch the games? Amazing.

 

Like I said, very good hitter but c'mon he is a TERRIBLE Catcher. This garbage is nothing new here.

 

SO again, let's all just agree as a whole and move onto another topic we can easily disagree on and LEGITAMTELY debate, for example whether or not it's impossible for a team to win the Division with Jones hitting 5th in the order.

 

Hey, I don't like his defense/game calling either, but he's the best we have. You don't want to see Blanco or Soto starting, do you?

 

No, just for everyone on here who have defended his atrocious Catching abilities and actually think he's good behind the plate to swollow their pride (or pull their heads out of the as$es) and admit he is not only not good, he's plainly terrible.

 

Have you been talking to the guy who says Cedeno is plainly Crap. You guys should meet.

 

No that wouldn't be me. I wanted Cedeno to start and get a chance for the last year but nice try by avoiding topic again.

 

Another person who can't actually defend this clown and has to generalize and say something really ridiculous and by trying to lump me in on another completely different topic. Absurd.

 

This is actually quite amusing. Are people defending him cuz he's a Cub? Just curious? It is alright to be realistic about a player on your favorite team, you do know that right?

Edited April 5, 2006 by #2242005CY

[sethuel1]

yeah, that really pissed me off when he gave up all those walks and home runs.

 

Pretty bad when defending someone you can't even defend him and go WAY off topic. Game would've been tied if not for Barrett's 2 bonehead plays. This was only the 2nd game folks, get used to seeing this all year.

 

it's not off topic at all. you said 'chalk this one up to barrett' as if he was the lone reason the cubs lost. that obviously wasn't the case, as evidenced by the walks and home runs.

look, we're all fighting with you because you took the picture of that blonde chick out as your avatar and replaced it with some sort of corny sunburst thing.

 

Switch it back and we'll all agree with you.

[srbin84]

as$es

 

What is the purpose of this? Does this strengthen your side of this debate? I don't think so.

 

It convinced me.

[Joe_Cub]

as$es

 

What is the purpose of this? Does this strengthen your side of this debate? I don't think so.

 

but typing it makes him all tingly inside!

[Wild_Cubs04]

yeah, that really pissed me off when he gave up all those walks and home runs.

 

Pretty bad when defending someone you can't even defend him and go WAY off topic. Game would've been tied if not for Barrett's 2 bonehead plays. This was only the 2nd game folks, get used to seeing this all year.

 

it's not off topic at all. you said 'chalk this one up to barrett' as if he was the lone reason the cubs lost. that obviously wasn't the case, as evidenced by the walks and home runs.

look, we're all fighting with you because you took the picture of that blonde chick out as your avatar and replaced it with some sort of corny sunburst thing.

 

Switch it back and we'll all agree with you.

 

Haha

[moorecg]

If the Cubs lose this one, chalk it up to Barrett, who is THE worst defensive Catcher I've ever seen.

 

I take it you didn't watch any Mets games with Piazza behind the plate in the last few years.

 

What the hell are you all talking about. There is only one.

 

http://reds.enquirer.com/2002/06/26/redslarue_zoom.jpg

 

Umm...Piazza has played a lot more than one game behind the plate in the last few years and I'm pretty sure no one's ever thought of giving him a gold glove.

[Chocolate Milk]

I think that Barrett is the worst player in the history of organized sports.

[srbin84]

Well, I'll still take Piazza over Hundley.

[Banedon]

Hardball times has a nice articlethat tries to quantify catcher defense. Whether it successfully does that is certainly a matter to debate, but Barrett is neither listed amoung the best or the worst defensive catchers. I wish they showed the entire list, but he's probably closer to the average than anything else.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Hardball times has a nice articlethat tries to quantify catcher defense. Whether it successfully does that is certainly a matter to debate, but Barrett is neither listed amoung the best or the worst defensive catchers. I wish they showed the entire list, but he's probably closer to the average than anything else.

 

Darn you and your bringing of logic to this debate!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

let the overreactions begin!

 

An overreaction can't be something I've said for the past 3 seasons. I find it a little hard to understand how people can actually defend his Defensive abilities. Seriously. Do you actually watch the games? Amazing.

 

Like I said, very good hitter but c'mon he is a TERRIBLE Catcher. This garbage is nothing new here.

 

SO again, let's all just agree as a whole and move onto another topic we can easily disagree on and LEGITAMTELY debate, for example whether or not it's impossible for a team to win the Division with Jones hitting 5th in the order.

 

Hey, I don't like his defense/game calling either, but he's the best we have. You don't want to see Blanco or Soto starting, do you?

 

No, just for everyone on here who have defended his atrocious Catching abilities and actually think he's good behind the plate to swollow their pride (or pull their heads out of the as$es) and admit he is not only not good, he's plainly terrible.

 

Have you been talking to the guy who says Cedeno is plainly Crap. You guys should meet.

 

No that wouldn't be me. I wanted Cedeno to start and get a chance for the last year but nice try by avoiding topic again.

 

Another person who can't actually defend this clown and has to generalize and say something really ridiculous and by trying to lump me in on another completely different topic. Absurd.

 

This is actually quite amusing. Are people defending him cuz he's a Cub? Just curious? It is alright to be realistic about a player on your favorite team, you do know that right?

 

First of all, he wasn't saying that guy was you, read the post again. Second, do you remember that day Barrett threw out a bunch of runners in one game? I do, yet it's not why I don't think he's terrible. Thirdly, no one is saying Barrett is a gold glove caliber catcher. We're just saying he's not the abomination you're making him out to be. When the difference is marginal like that and you are talking about fielding, which doesn't have near the conclusive data to support an opinion like hitting or pitching, it's impossible for anyone to make conclusive statements like the one you made at the beginning of this thread.

[sonicdethmonkey0]

i'm not defending barrett because he's a cub, i'm defending barrett because he's not even close to the worst catcher i've ever seen. is he good? no. is he bad? eh. i'd say barrett is a below average to bad catcher, but his offense more than makes up for it. today he sucked, and his ineptitude behind the plate assuredly contributed to the loss. however, our gap-toothed friend jerome did too. so did jock jones, who didn't contribute at all. the whole cubs lineup was very impatient today, and made bronson arroyo look like roy halladay.

 

just keep this game in mind when barrett saves us with his bat. i guarantee you he will help us win more games with his bat than he will help us lose games with his glove.

Edited April 5, 2006 by sonicdethmonkey0

[snoodmonger]

Holy crap dude, did you really start a topic about Michael Barrett's defense for the sole reason of not debating it?

 

Hahahhahaha. Excellent.

[2242005CY]

yeah, that really pissed me off when he gave up all those walks and home runs.

 

Pretty bad when defending someone you can't even defend him and go WAY off topic. Game would've been tied if not for Barrett's 2 bonehead plays. This was only the 2nd game folks, get used to seeing this all year.

 

it's not off topic at all. you said 'chalk this one up to barrett' as if he was the lone reason the cubs lost. that obviously wasn't the case, as evidenced by the walks and home runs.

look, we're all fighting with you because you took the picture of that blonde chick out as your avatar and replaced it with some sort of corny sunburst thing.

 

Switch it back and we'll all agree with you.

 

HA! That was http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0102497/ Went to High School with her at Crystal Lake South when her first name was Eve. She was SMOKIN then to.

And that corny logo is of the Mesa Solar Sox, affiliate of the Cubs Fall League. I dig it. Even have a hat.

[snoodmonger]

Barrett is a pretty average defensive catcher, and today wasn't his best effort. In his defense, it was only the 2nd game in the season, and he's probably a bit short on reps due to his stint in the WBC, so I wouldn't crucify him just yet.

 

But if I were going to pin today's loss on any single player, Rusch or Williams would be at the head of the list.

[2242005CY]

Ok I might've overreacted just a little. I admitted I was wrong, now it's time for some of you to do the same.

 

If I would've said that he is just simply a terrible Defensive Catcher, would more agree?

 

How 'bout this, does anyone think Barrett is actually a good Defensive Catcher? Raise your hand. I want to see a show of hands.

 

Best I can say for Barrett is slightly below average.

[fromthestretch]

Ok I might've overreacted just a little. I admitted I was wrong, now it's time for some of you to do the same.

 

If I would've said that he is just simply a terrible Defensive Catcher, would more agree?

 

How 'bout this, does anyone think Barrett is actually a good Defensive Catcher? Raise your hand. I want to see a show of hands.

 

Best I can say for Barrett is slightly below average.

 

I remember some of the past threads you were involved in regarding Barrett's defensive abilities. I don't recall anyone saying he was a good defensive catcher. About the best anyone has really called him is average. He's probably a bit below that. In no way, shape, or form is he even close to being the worst defensive catcher ever.

 

He also probably could have used a few more innings behind the dish in spring training. With his involvement in the WBC, I doubt he got as much playing time as he would have had he been with the Cubs all spring.

[Tracer Bullet]

Holy crap dude, did you really start a topic about Michael Barrett's defense for the sole reason of not debating it?

 

=D>

[sherwood921]

Ok I might've overreacted just a little. I admitted I was wrong, now it's time for some of you to do the same.

 

If I would've said that he is just simply a terrible Defensive Catcher, would more agree?

 

How 'bout this, does anyone think Barrett is actually a good Defensive Catcher? Raise your hand. I want to see a show of hands.

 

Best I can say for Barrett is slightly below average.

 

What exactly is everyone wrong about? Becuase they disagreed that Barrett wasn't the worst catcher in history? I don't get your motivation here. You tell us he's horrible and you can't believe everyone thinks he's good, but you don't want to debate it. Now you say he's not the worst, he's just bad...and you want to argue that with people?