Miguel Cabrera Rumors

[WrigleyField 22]

I am holding out hope that the recent Cubs and Marlins dealings (Clement, Lee, Pierre, Wellemeyer deals) make Florida more willing to deal with the Cubs than other teams.

 

If there were one thing that keeps us in the running that is it.

 

By mid season some of our pitching prospects may have reached high profile again. If Epatt does well and some guys like Moore/Dopriak/Harvey do well maybe we could be in the running. All that is doubtful though.

[ManCrushOnNomar]

I would imagine the Angels and D-Backs are the teams with the depth and top line prospects to get a deal done.

The Angels would have the best 3-4-5 in baseball with Vlad, Miggy and GA if they got that deal done.

 

That would be SICK!

[Guest]

I would imagine the Angels and D-Backs are the teams with the depth and top line prospects to get a deal done.

The Angels would have the best 3-4-5 in baseball with Vlad, Miggy and GA if they got that deal done.

 

That would be SICK!

GA is toast.

[Guest]

How about Boston? They could trade Papelbon (or Lester), Youklis & Delcarmen for Miggy and go Miggy, Papi, Manny.

 

They could certainly afford him and they could put him at third where he has most value.

[Rob]

Better odds that he goes to the Yankees.

 

They'll take on some of the Marlins' cumbersome 400k albatross contracts to offer up financial relief that Loria just wont be able to look past. :roll:

[nilodnayr]

Would it be worth it for the dodgers to create a package around LaRoche and one of their pitchers? The dodgers have the money to spend and definitely the talent to get it done. And with their offense aging, it would be nice to have a sure thing like cabrera in the lineup for years to come.

[Outshined_One]

i've read the cards are offering a package that starts w/ anthony reyes.

 

i'm really hoping thats not true. them w/ pujols and cabrera would be insane. 2 best young bats in baseball. :(

 

What else do the Cards have to offer beyond Reyes? They're farm system is even more shallow than ours is.

We've got some arms and a few really good position prospects. Aside from Reyes and Wainright, all of them are a few years away, but guys like Chris Lambert, Mark McCormick, Colby Rasmus, Tyler Greene, Stuart Pomeranz could be considered potential star prospects. Unfortunately, any trade for Cabrera would almost certainly completely deplete our system which is just now starting to become respectable.

 

The Cards have some interesting guys however they don't have the talent to get a guy like Cabrera.

 

As it has been said, Reyes is about it. The Cardinals cannot trade any of the players they drafted until a year after they signed them (which would be around June 11th for Rasmus and July 1st for Greene).

 

Rasmus has nice potential, but he should be down in Low A for most of the season unless he mashes. He has a ways to go before he's ready, especially given the fact that he needs to get some meat on his bones and learn to cut down on the Ks. Greene, on the other hand, is an effective defensive player at SS, but a question mark at the plate. He should be starting at High A/AA and likely will need at least another year down in the minors before he's ready to be called up.

 

In other words, I don't think they'd be all that tempting to the Marlins. I have a feeling that if they trade Cabrera, it'll be for guys who are close to the majors or have already accumulated a short amount of time in the majors.

 

If the Dodgers want to make a run at him, they've got the prospects and depth to nab him in a trade. Billingsley, Martin, and LaRoche would definitely be a nice package.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Unfortunately, I could see the White Sox offer McCarthy, Sweeney (or Aanderson) and say Josh Fields, and the Marlins be tempted.

 

The Indians could offer Franklin Gutierrez, Ryan Garko, and another prospect or two.

 

The Red Sox could "realisitically" offer Papelbon (or Lester), Pena, and Shoppach.

 

So if the Marlins ever decide to trade Cabera, they'd get alot of interesting offers.

[SouthSideRyan]

Unfortunately, I could see the White Sox offer McCarthy, Sweeney (or Aanderson) and say Josh Fields, and the Marlins be tempted.

 

The Indians could offer Franklin Gutierrez, Ryan Garko, and another prospect or two.

 

The Red Sox could "realisitically" offer Papelbon (or Lester), Pena, and Shoppach.

 

So if the Marlins ever decide to trade Cabera, they'd get alot of interesting offers.

 

Red Sox can't offer Shoppach, he went to the Indians in the Crisp trade.

 

Coco Crisp (And the worthless Josh Bard) cost Andy Marte and Kelly Shoppach. None of those packages above are really close to being worth Cabrera.

[Backtobanks]

After watching the first game, who needs Cabrera?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

After watching the first game, who needs Cabrera?

 

Wait 'til you see game 2...

[Backtobanks]

After watching the first game, who needs Cabrera?

 

Wait 'til you see game 2...

 

Cabrera's not fast enough, he'd clog up the bases (lol).

[Roast]

Raw brought up a good point, any chance Hendry is looking forward and setting up a good relationship with florida now with all these little trades, hoping to land the big fish (pun fully intended) later?

 

Or at least, if nothing else, i believe it is reasonable to hope that because of our good relationship with florida we at least have some outside chance. plz.

[JWCUB]

After watching the first game, who needs Cabrera?

 

Wait 'til you see game 2...

 

So far, in game 2, a HR and a double. 8) The Cubs could use that.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Unfortunately, I could see the White Sox offer McCarthy, Sweeney (or Aanderson) and say Josh Fields, and the Marlins be tempted.

 

The Indians could offer Franklin Gutierrez, Ryan Garko, and another prospect or two.

 

The Red Sox could "realisitically" offer Papelbon (or Lester), Pena, and Shoppach.

 

So if the Marlins ever decide to trade Cabera, they'd get alot of interesting offers.

 

Red Sox can't offer Shoppach, he went to the Indians in the Crisp trade.

 

Coco Crisp (And the worthless Josh Bard) cost Andy Marte and Kelly Shoppach. None of those packages above are really close to being worth Cabrera.

 

First, I thought Santos was still a D'Back, and now I though Shoppach was still a Sox. I must have hit the sauce a little too hard last night.

[soccer10k]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

[soccer10k]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

 

Why? He put up big stats last year, about a notch below DLee and you think he's only worth $6 mil a year? I probably estimated high on the 12-15 mil per year but if DLee is negoitiating a contract worth 12-13 mil a year, you don't think Cabrera, who is 22 not 30, isn't worth 10 mil a year? Furcal got 13 mil from the Dodgers.

[sethuel1]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

 

Why? He put up big stats last year, about a notch below DLee and you think he's only worth $6 mil a year? I probably estimated high on the 12-15 mil per year but if DLee is negoitiating a contract worth 12-13 mil a year, you don't think Cabrera, who is 22 not 30, isn't worth 10 mil a year? Furcal got 13 mil from the Dodgers.

 

Service time.

[srbin84]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

 

Why? He put up big stats last year, about a notch below DLee and you think he's only worth $6 mil a year? I probably estimated high on the 12-15 mil per year but if DLee is negoitiating a contract worth 12-13 mil a year, you don't think Cabrera, who is 22 not 30, isn't worth 10 mil a year? Furcal got 13 mil from the Dodgers.

 

You are right, he is as good of a player as D-Lee, but he is still eligible for arbitration so until he is done with that, he won't get Lee money.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

 

Why? He put up big stats last year, about a notch below DLee and you think he's only worth $6 mil a year? I probably estimated high on the 12-15 mil per year but if DLee is negoitiating a contract worth 12-13 mil a year, you don't think Cabrera, who is 22 not 30, isn't worth 10 mil a year? Furcal got 13 mil from the Dodgers.

 

Like Seth said, service time. Cabrera will only be a first year arbitration player, like Willis(who's only making 4.35M this year) was this past year. If he gets 6 million, I believe that would set the record for first year arbitration.

[soccer10k]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

 

Why? He put up big stats last year, about a notch below DLee and you think he's only worth $6 mil a year? I probably estimated high on the 12-15 mil per year but if DLee is negoitiating a contract worth 12-13 mil a year, you don't think Cabrera, who is 22 not 30, isn't worth 10 mil a year? Furcal got 13 mil from the Dodgers.

 

Service time.

 

So if the guy can play but is only 22 (almost 23) that takes a few million off of what he's worth. Pujols has only been in the league for 5 years, this is his sixth. I don't know when Albert signed his contract and I'm not saying Cabrera is as good as Pujols is but Pujols is making 14 mil a year. Why isn't Cabrera worth 10. I still haven't heard a good reason. Just for kicks, lets say Cabrera puts up numbers this year comparable to what he did last year. Is he still not worth 10 mil?

[soccer10k]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

 

Why? He put up big stats last year, about a notch below DLee and you think he's only worth $6 mil a year? I probably estimated high on the 12-15 mil per year but if DLee is negoitiating a contract worth 12-13 mil a year, you don't think Cabrera, who is 22 not 30, isn't worth 10 mil a year? Furcal got 13 mil from the Dodgers.

 

Like Seth said, service time. Cabrera will only be a first year arbitration player, like Willis(who's only making 4.35M this year) was this past year. If he gets 6 million, I believe that would set the record for first year arbitration.

 

Fair enough. Can you completely explain arbitration for me? I know a little about it but not that much. Thanks.

[srbin84]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

 

Why? He put up big stats last year, about a notch below DLee and you think he's only worth $6 mil a year? I probably estimated high on the 12-15 mil per year but if DLee is negoitiating a contract worth 12-13 mil a year, you don't think Cabrera, who is 22 not 30, isn't worth 10 mil a year? Furcal got 13 mil from the Dodgers.

 

Service time.

 

 

So if the guy can play but is only 22 (almost 23) that takes a few million off of what he's worth. Pujols has only been in the league for 5 years, this is his sixth. I don't know when Albert signed his contract and I'm not saying Cabrera is as good as Pujols is but Pujols is making 14 mil a year. Why isn't Cabrera worth 10. I still haven't heard a good reason. Just for kicks, lets say Cabrera puts up numbers this year comparable to what he did last year. Is he still not worth 10 mil?

 

I think Pujols signed his multi-year deal before he was done with arbitration, maybe by one year. As long as a player is eligible for arbitration, other teams can't sign him so he won't have the opportunity to make big time money and poor teams like the Marlins can keep him longer. Thats' why it is the way it is. Before Curt Flood, a team owned the rights to a player forever. The whole arbitration thing is a compromise.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I guarantee Cabrera will be traded before the deadline. There is no way the Marlins are going to pay him 12-15 mil per year.

 

Cabrera will be lucky to get half that.

 

Why? He put up big stats last year, about a notch below DLee and you think he's only worth $6 mil a year? I probably estimated high on the 12-15 mil per year but if DLee is negoitiating a contract worth 12-13 mil a year, you don't think Cabrera, who is 22 not 30, isn't worth 10 mil a year? Furcal got 13 mil from the Dodgers.

 

Like Seth said, service time. Cabrera will only be a first year arbitration player, like Willis(who's only making 4.35M this year) was this past year. If he gets 6 million, I believe that would set the record for first year arbitration.

 

Fair enough. Can you completely explain arbitration for me? I know a little about it but not that much. Thanks.

 

When a player is on the 25 man roster during the season, he accrues service time. Until a player reaches 3 years of service time, the team can basically set the player's salary for him. That's why young guys all make around 300k during these years, some make more to help foster goodwill for when they hit arbitration and free agency. After a player reaches 3 years of service time, they are eligible for arbitration until they reach 6 years of service time. When this happens, if the player and team can't come to an agreement, then the two teams swap figures on what they think the player should get. If they can't come to an agreement still, then it goes before an arbitrator, who picks one figure or the other to be the player's salary. After a player reaches 6 years of service time, they are a free agent. There are a couple other things involved in the process(Super 2's for example), but that's the basic concept.