Bonds to sue authors

[Soul]

This book sounds mostly like a joke. I think I heard on ESPN that the authors said Bonds told people he wanted to take steroids, because he was jealous of Mcgwire and Sosa? That sounds so made up its not even funny....he very well may have taken illegal drugs, but cmon that is just silly the guy hates the media attention he gets

 

And the mountain of paperwork and testimony they have assembled to support their assertions? Is that all a joke too?

 

Doesn't sound like Bonds is laughing, by the way... [-(

[XZero771679666304]

ESPN just reported that a judge denied Bond's request for an injunction.

[halplm]

This was simply a VERY badly thought out PR move. You can tell because of the whole discussion about giving the proceeds to charity. Bonds wanted to shift negative thinking AWAY from himself, onto the nasty reporters who are always lying about him, and make himself look good for giving all that "nasty profit" away to kids charities...

 

He won't win, he couldn't win a libel case, the only way he could have done anything legally that would have looked good is to sue them FOR LIBEL. IT doesn't matter if he won or not, he could even drop the case... but that's the only way that makes it look like he still claimed the information was false.

 

This way, he just looks stupid.

[katway]

It's very difficult to win a libel case if you are a public figure. The standard is much higher than if you or I sued for libel. Not saying Bonds is innocent, because it sure seems he is guilty, but just because he is not suing for libel doesn't necessarily say so much.

 

The thing anyone should infer about him not suing for libel is that he has good legal advice.

 

Give this man/woman a star. Even if he won, he'd spend millions and be in for a very nasty battle, not to mention drawing further attention to the issue. I frequently advise clients on unfair competition issues (which has some similar implications and issues), and tell them exactly the same thing.

 

He's not bringing a suit that is as difficult to prove; but, he is sueing nonetheless. So, he is drawing further attention to the whole matter. Case in point -- we're talking about it right now because of his suit.

[Blueheart05]

Bonds' lawyers are "denied."

 

 

 

 

A judge on Friday denied a bid by Barry Bonds' lawyers to block the authors and publishers from making money on a book claiming the San Francisco Giants' slugger used steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs.

 

Bonds' attorneys say the book's authors, publisher Gotham Books, the San Francisco Chronicle and Sports Illustrated, which published excerpts of the book, should be held liable for publishing "illegally obtained grand jury transcripts."

 

But Judge James Warren said free speech protections shielded the defendants from such accusations and that he thought Bonds' lawsuit had little chance of success.

 

...Bonds sought a temporary restraining order on all profits from the book. He did not attend the hearing.

 

Another Bonds lawyer, Michael Rains, said laws prohibit people from possessing grand jury materials unless they are unsealed and that the defendants have no right to profit from illegally obtained material. He said Fainaru-Wada and Williams, "have made a complete farce of the criminal justice system."

 

Jonathan Donnellan, a lawyer for the two writers and Hearst Corp., which owns the chronicle, said writers and publishers are protected by the First Amendment and that the suit "takes direct aim at protected speech."

 

...If Bonds moves forward with his lawsuit, the authors will countersue under California's strong anti-SLAPP ("strategic lawsuit against public participation") statute, which prevents parties from using the courts to stifle free speech, the New York Daily News reported.

 

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[NorthsideAvenger]

I believe the bottom line is that Bonds is "up the creek without a paddle." Baseball should not be celebrating Bonds chase for 715 and 755. To be honest...baseball needs to wipe out Bonds stat starting from 2001, the season in which he hit 73 HRs.

[Andy]

I believe the bottom line is that Bonds is "up the creek without a paddle." Baseball should not be celebrating Bonds chase for 715 and 755. To be honest...baseball needs to wipe out Bonds stat starting from 2001, the season in which he hit 73 HRs.

I'm not sure what to make of this idea. On the one hand, Barry definitely deserves to have his records expunged, but on the other hand, so do other steroid users who we don't know about yet and possibly never will. It wouldn't be acceptable to chase one guy in particular when there are dozens who are guilty.

 

In my opinion, baseball built this mountain for themselves and now they're going to have a heck of a time climbing it.

[Wilson A2000]

So Bonds initial suit is denied. I bet Selig pressured the judge. If Bonds really takes this to trial, not only will the steroid allegation be affirmed, but the authors will be exhonorated. The only thing that Bonds didn't need is the authors to go to trial and prove to everyone that these allegations are true. Then he really wouldn't make it to the Hall.

[stitchface]

So Bonds initial suit is denied. I bet Selig pressured the judge. If Bonds really takes this to trial, not only will the steroid allegation be affirmed, but the authors will be exhonorated. The only thing that Bonds didn't need is the authors to go to trial and prove to everyone that these allegations are true. Then he really wouldn't make it to the Hall.

 

You are saying Selig influenced a judge? I find that highly unlikely.

[Wilson A2000]

The Selig thing was a joke. But I do believe the rest.

[CuseCubFan69]

So once again the original Ruth record will have an asterisks.

[swordsman]

I believe the bottom line is that Bonds is "up the creek without a paddle." Baseball should not be celebrating Bonds chase for 715 and 755. To be honest...baseball needs to wipe out Bonds stat starting from 2001, the season in which he hit 73 HRs.

I'm not sure what to make of this idea. On the one hand, Barry definitely deserves to have his records expunged, but on the other hand, so do other steroid users who we don't know about yet and possibly never will. It wouldn't be acceptable to chase one guy in particular when there are dozens who are guilty.

 

In my opinion, baseball built this mountain for themselves and now they're going to have a heck of a time climbing it.

 

I'm not sure I buy your logic. If a group of ten guys are robbing a liquor store and I catch one of them 'cus I can see their face on the security camera, I shouldn't prosocute him fully because the other 9 got away?

 

Now granted, in the real world the one guy would be offered a plea to flip on the others, but removing that option for a minute where is the justification for letting the one guy off?

[OleMissCub]

So once again the original Ruth record will have an asterisks.

 

The asterisk was next to Maris' record, commenting on how he achieved it in 162 games not 154.

 

Is that what you are referring to?

[OleMissCub]

I'm not sure I buy your logic. If a group of ten guys are robbing a liquor store and I catch one of them 'cus I can see their face on the security camera, I shouldn't prosocute him fully because the other 9 got away?

 

Now granted, in the real world the one guy would be offered a plea to flip on the others, but removing that option for a minute where is the justification for letting the one guy off?

 

According to some states laws, even an accomplice to a murder can be found guility of murder, regardless of whether the murderer has been found guilty at that point.

[CuseCubFan69]

So once again the original Ruth record will have an asterisks.

 

The asterisk was next to Maris' record, commenting on how he achieved it in 162 games not 154.

 

Is that what you are referring to?

 

Yeah, I meant the guys that broke it will have one.

[OleMissCub]

So once again the original Ruth record will have an asterisks.

 

The asterisk was next to Maris' record, commenting on how he achieved it in 162 games not 154.

 

Is that what you are referring to?

 

Yeah, I meant the guys that broke it will have one.

 

1927 - Babe Ruth - 60 hr *

1961 - Roger Maris - 61 hr **

1999 - Sammy Sosa - 63 hr ***

2001 - Sammy Sosa - 64 hr ***

1999 - Mark McGwire - 65 hr ***

1998 - Sammy Sosa - 66 hr ***

1998 - Mark McGwire - 70 hr ***

2001 - Barry Bonds - 73 hr ***

 

* suspected of using hotdogs and beer in between innings

** suspected of smoking two packs in the dugout during a single ballgame

*** suspected of using performance enhancing drugs

 

 

 

that's sad indeed.

[jaydee]

This book sounds mostly like a joke. I think I heard on ESPN that the authors said Bonds told people he wanted to take steroids, because he was jealous of Mcgwire and Sosa? That sounds so made up its not even funny....he very well may have taken illegal drugs, but cmon that is just silly the guy hates the media attention he gets

 

And the mountain of paperwork and testimony they have assembled to support their assertions? Is that all a joke too?

 

Doesn't sound like Bonds is laughing, by the way... [-(

 

I don't doubt that a lot of stuff in the book is true. Just some of the stuff

seems pretty far fetched.

[XZero771679666304]

This book sounds mostly like a joke. I think I heard on ESPN that the authors said Bonds told people he wanted to take steroids, because he was jealous of Mcgwire and Sosa? That sounds so made up its not even funny....he very well may have taken illegal drugs, but cmon that is just silly the guy hates the media attention he gets

 

And the mountain of paperwork and testimony they have assembled to support their assertions? Is that all a joke too?

 

Doesn't sound like Bonds is laughing, by the way... [-(

 

I don't doubt that a lot of stuff in the book is true. Just some of the stuff

seems pretty far fetched.

 

I don't think the jealousy is far fetched at all. If you have listened to and watched Bonds off the field over the years, you can tell that he is a egocentric, racist and generally spiteful person. So then you have McGwire, who is not as complete a player as Bonds as well as a suspected cheater at the time, getting all the press? I think that is ample motivation for a person like Bonds.

[Soul]

I believe the bottom line is that Bonds is "up the creek without a paddle." Baseball should not be celebrating Bonds chase for 715 and 755. To be honest...baseball needs to wipe out Bonds stat starting from 2001, the season in which he hit 73 HRs.

I'm not sure what to make of this idea. On the one hand, Barry definitely deserves to have his records expunged, but on the other hand, so do other steroid users who we don't know about yet and possibly never will. It wouldn't be acceptable to chase one guy in particular when there are dozens who are guilty.

 

In my opinion, baseball built this mountain for themselves and now they're going to have a heck of a time climbing it.

 

There are plenty of lawbreakers out there who are guilty but never caught.

 

I would definitely be against emptying our prisons because we can't catch them all :)

 

I think we should wipe Bonds & Palmiero, because we know they did it. Then continue investigating the others, see where it leads.