NSBB 2006 NCAA Mock Selection Committee

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Ok...I really don't have the time needed to do this right, so I'm gonna have to drop off the committee. Sorry.

[SouthSideRyan]

Montana and Monmouth are in.

 

REMINDER: PM Bukie your 34 teams +10 by 8 Central tomorrow.

[Coach C]

Southern Illinois is automatically in, since they won the Missouri Valley Conference.

 

Just helpin ya out here.

[SouthSideRyan]

Full list just so it's in one place so people don't waste an at-large spot:

 

Belmont, Montana, Winthrop, UNC Wilmington, Wisconsin-Milwaukee, Penn, Iona, Oral Roberts, Southern Illinois, Monmouth, Murray St., Davidson, South Alabama, Gonzaga

[CaliforniaRaisin]

1. Post here with your favorite team. That will count as your automatic vote for that team during this process. You don't need to include them in your at-large selections (just like an Illinois rep in the committee can't include them, they are assumed to vote for them), but if nobody else nominates them, they will still be off the board (like if your favorite team is South Carolina...that's great, but if nobody else votes them in they won't get at-large consideration).

 

Does this mean I should post a top 33 with UCLA as the assumed 34th or should I come up with 34 schools and not include UCLA?

[SouthSideRyan]

Pretty sure you list 34, not including UCLA.

[bukie]

1. Post here with your favorite team. That will count as your automatic vote for that team during this process. You don't need to include them in your at-large selections (just like an Illinois rep in the committee can't include them, they are assumed to vote for them), but if nobody else nominates them, they will still be off the board (like if your favorite team is South Carolina...that's great, but if nobody else votes them in they won't get at-large consideration).

 

Does this mean I should post a top 33 with UCLA as the assumed 34th or should I come up with 34 schools and not include UCLA?

 

Just come up with 34 schools and not include UCLA. You will have an assumed vote for UCLA.

[bukie]

Ok, first post updated with every automatic bid thus far.

 

If you want to participate, please get me your list of 34 teams by 8pm CST tonight, since it'll take me a while to process the info for the next step. The next step will be filtering teams in and out of the field (depending on how many extra teams/slots we have at the end of the first step) and ranking the teams that we have put in to the field.

[bukie]

Updated to reflect that GW can't win the A-10's bid. Bubble teams everywhere hoping for the chance to pop GW one in the tourney.

 

Also, I have all results tabulated for the 7 entries I've received so far (including mine...except I forgot Pitt, so I fudged mine a touch). Some interesting results, and I think this is going to turn out well.

[Flames24Rulz]

so we just list the top 34 schools that we believe should get in except the auto bids that have already been won?

[bukie]

so we just list the top 34 schools that we believe should get in except the auto bids that have already been won?

 

Yes, and then 10 additional schools you think should get consideration.

[Flames24Rulz]

so we just list the top 34 schools that we believe should get in except the auto bids that have already been won?

 

Yes, and then 10 additional schools you think should get consideration.

 

alright, got it.

[bukie]

Ok, results tabulated. I received 9 entries from the committee of:

 

bukie

Transmogrified Tiger

SouthSideRyan

Mark_R

rawaction

CaliforniaRaisin

hawkeyecub

Flames24Rulz

RynoRules

 

The following 27 teams are IN:

 

Boston College

Connecticut

Duke

Florida

George Washington

Georgetown

Illinois

Indiana

Iowa

Kansas

LSU

Marquette

Memphis

Michigan State

Nevada

North Carolina

North Carolina State

Ohio State

Oklahoma

Pittsburgh

Tennessee

Texas

UCLA

Villanova

Washington

West Virginia

Wisconsin

 

...meaning at least 7 of the 9 participants voted for the above teams.

 

The following 34 teams will be involved in bubble discussions for the remainder of the spots:

Air Force

Alabama

Albany

Arizona

Arkansas

Bradley

Bucknell

California

Charlotte

Cincinnati

Colorado

Creighton

Delaware State

Florida State

George Mason

Hofstra

Houston

Kent State

Kentucky

Louisville

Maryland

Michigan

Missouri State

Northern Iowa

Northwestern State

Pacific

San Diego State

Seton Hall

Southern

Syracuse

Temple

Texas A&M

UAB

Wichita State

 

...meaning at least one person, but fewer than 7, voted for the above teams.

 

I'll post the next step soon, as I figure out exactly how many spots are still available.

 

EDIT: There are still 14 slots available, given automatic bids and at-larges already taken away (under assumption that highest RPI team will win each remaining conf tournament). So, step 2: Rank the remaining 34 bubble teams from 1 to 34. The aggregate scores of the remaining teams will denote who will be in the field for now, and who will be on the outside looking in.

 

Also, feel free to open discussion on the teams we are ranking for tomorrow. If everyone can get them in before Friday at 8pm CST, we can get to ranking the teams in the field. The ranking for tomorrow doesn't necessarily mean these teams are at the bottom of the field.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'll open the conversation for starters asking for somebody to make the case for

 

Albany

Charlotte

Delaware St.

Kent St.

Louisville

Pacific

Southern

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Delaware State, Albany, Charlotte, Southern, and Louisville don't belong anywhere near the bubble.

 

Pacific doesn't deserve an at large, but I don't think it's going to matter.

 

Kent State has a top 64 RPI, only 8 losses, a 9-6 road/neutral mark that will improve to 10-6 if they win in the conference semis(likely), which will also make them 8 of their last 9. I wouldn't put them at the front of the bubble, but I wouldn't eliminate them from consideration.

[bukie]

I'd add Temple to the list of teams that really shouldn't be considered for an at-large bid. Yes, they beat GW, to climb 4 games over .500. And they have seven losses to teams in the RPI 100-200.

 

I'll also make a note that every single Missouri Valley team except Creighton ended up one vote shy of being "in". They all have such similar profiles, it's difficult to choose which ones deserve and which ones don't. I think they should all be in, especially before a Florida State, or a Cal.

[bukie]

I'll open the conversation for starters asking for somebody to make the case for

 

Albany

Charlotte

Delaware St.

Kent St.

Louisville

Pacific

Southern

 

Albany, Delaware State, Kent State, Pacific, and Southern at least all won their conferences for the regular season. Of those, Pacific, Kent State, and Albany have the best profiles for consideration.

[rawaction]

Delaware State, Albany, Charlotte, Southern, and Louisville don't belong anywhere near the bubble.

 

Pacific doesn't deserve an at large, but I don't think it's going to matter.

 

Kent State has a top 64 RPI, only 8 losses, a 9-6 road/neutral mark that will improve to 10-6 if they win in the conference semis(likely), which will also make them 8 of their last 9. I wouldn't put them at the front of the bubble, but I wouldn't eliminate them from consideration.

 

FWIW, completely agree.

[bukie]

One more thing to put some ridiculousness to rest that I've seen on almost every major sports site this week.

 

Team A vs. Team B

 

Team A:

RPI: 19

Record: 20-8

Records vs. Top 50: 4-8

Record vs. 51-325: 16-0

Record in Last 10: 8-2

Road/Neutral Record: 8-6

Lost in conference tourney quarters

 

Team B:

RPI: 41

Record: 21-8

Record vs. Top 50: 4-5

Record vs. 51-325: 17-3

Record in Last 10: 6-4

Road/Neutral Record: 6-5

Plays in conference tourney quarters today.

 

Right now we have Team A on the bubble (and every other publication has them as one of the last teams in or out), and Team B is considered a lock everywhere. 99% of this has to do with the conference they play in, and the popular concept that they "gamed" the RPI (by actually playing tough teams non-conference away from home...*gasp*).

 

So, please, vote in team A.

[SouthSideRyan]

I think the problem people have with Team A is they don't believe the RPI to be legitamate(mostly because it puts Team A as #19) I do wholeheartedly agree with you though, and wish I analyzed Team B a little bit further.

[SouthSideRyan]

Can anyone convince me that the 3 Big East teams are better than the Valley teams?

[Mark_R]

For me, Louisville was on my 10 extra list before getting humiliated. They're not even close now.

 

Seton Hall should have beaten Rutgers, too.

 

Syracuse is probably in at this point...

[bukie]

I only have 4 submissions so far for bubble rankings. Anyone else?

[Mark_R]

I'm finishing mine up right now, should be done in about 15 minutes.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Whoops, get right on that.