If the Cubs are going to trade Prior...

[Mark_R]

Prior in a package for Tex or Manny would be ideal. Those two would have to offer some more (Papelbon, Lester, Danks, Volquez) to sweeten the pot, but I'd also try to move Lee if we did get Tex. If not, stick Tex in left field, he is a LEGITIMATE franchise player.

 

Manny's a head case. A head case with a huge bat, to be sure. The Chicago media isn't Boston's, but it probalby wouldn't be too far behind.

 

Move Lee as part of the deal for Tex? How often do that many All-Star/borderline MVP players get traded?

 

If you don't, then everyone knows you're trying to move him, and we wind up with yet another trade where we can't get value. Teixeira isn't even very good defensively (range-wise) at 1B. Lee would be a better OF than he would. LF is a pretty important position on the field - sticking first basemen there makes your pitching staff worse in a hurry.

 

Move Lee in a seperate deal.

 

And LF is hardly an important spot for defense. I'd take Tex's .950 OPS and smile and say, "yes sir, that's some awesome hittin"

 

And you don't move your GG first basemen to a spot he hasn't played. If we keep Lee, keep him at first, Tex has already played some OF as is.

[nilodnayr]

The fact that Hendry is actually considering a Prior/Tejada swapped shows how desparate he wants to improve the offense. If Hendry trades Prior, he'd better have another top quality starting pitcher in his back pocket.

The fact that he wants to trade Walker, signed JJ, Pierre, Neifi, and wasted money on middle relievers shows how up until this point he has shown no desperation whatsoever to improve the offense. And I think a back pocket is no place to sotre a top quality pitcher, I mean players complain about the conditions of the clubhouses at wrigley, but come on, thats downright cruel and unusual punishment.

[ctcf]

i would take jeter for prior from the yankees and thats it. jeter to me is one of the best players in the game, a true champion and franchise player. i wouldnt take Arod, but Jeter, despite his age would be great for this team. i wouldnt trade prior for pretty much anybody else but johan santana and a few others. but jeter to me is too great to pass on and he would tear up it up nobody what league he's in. that catch when he ran with absolutely no abandon into the stands was just amazing. prior for jeter, where do i sign?

 

CF pierre

SS jeter

1B lee

3B ramirez

RF jones

C barrett

LF murton

2B cedeno/walker

 

I think I peed a little from laughing so hard.

 

Thanks I needed that.

[snoodmonger]

i would take jeter for prior from the yankees and thats it. jeter to me is one of the best players in the game, a true champion and franchise player. i wouldnt take Arod, but Jeter, despite his age would be great for this team. i wouldnt trade prior for pretty much anybody else but johan santana and a few others. but jeter to me is too great to pass on and he would tear up it up nobody what league he's in. that catch when he ran with absolutely no abandon into the stands was just amazing. prior for jeter, where do i sign?

 

CF pierre

SS jeter

1B lee

3B ramirez

RF jones

C barrett

LF murton

2B cedeno/walker

 

I'm assuming this is satire.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

i would take jeter for prior from the yankees and thats it. jeter to me is one of the best players in the game, a true champion and franchise player. i wouldnt take Arod, but Jeter, despite his age would be great for this team. i wouldnt trade prior for pretty much anybody else but johan santana and a few others. but jeter to me is too great to pass on and he would tear up it up nobody what league he's in. that catch when he ran with absolutely no abandon into the stands was just amazing. prior for jeter, where do i sign?

 

CF pierre

SS jeter

1B lee

3B ramirez

RF jones

C barrett

LF murton

2B cedeno/walker

 

I think I peed a little from laughing so hard.

 

Thanks I needed that.

 

Good to see you around, sir.

 

I hope that was sarcasm.

[ctcf]

i would take jeter for prior from the yankees and thats it. jeter to me is one of the best players in the game, a true champion and franchise player. i wouldnt take Arod, but Jeter, despite his age would be great for this team. i wouldnt trade prior for pretty much anybody else but johan santana and a few others. but jeter to me is too great to pass on and he would tear up it up nobody what league he's in. that catch when he ran with absolutely no abandon into the stands was just amazing. prior for jeter, where do i sign?

 

CF pierre

SS jeter

1B lee

3B ramirez

RF jones

C barrett

LF murton

2B cedeno/walker

 

I think I peed a little from laughing so hard.

 

Thanks I needed that.

 

Good to see you around, sir.

 

I hope that was sarcasm.

 

Maybe...

[CaliforniaRaisin]

i would take jeter for prior from the yankees and thats it. jeter to me is one of the best players in the game, a true champion and franchise player. i wouldnt take Arod, but Jeter, despite his age would be great for this team. i wouldnt trade prior for pretty much anybody else but johan santana and a few others. but jeter to me is too great to pass on and he would tear up it up nobody what league he's in. that catch when he ran with absolutely no abandon into the stands was just amazing. prior for jeter, where do i sign?

 

CF pierre

SS jeter

1B lee

3B ramirez

RF jones

C barrett

LF murton

2B cedeno/walker

 

I think I peed a little from laughing so hard.

 

Thanks I needed that.

 

Good to see you around, sir.

 

I hope that was sarcasm.

 

Maybe...

 

I meant AramisRamirez' post.

[ManCrushOnNomar]

Prior for Miguel Cabrera.

 

or

 

Prior for Pujols.

 

or

 

Prior for Santana.

 

Those are about the only 3 trades I'd consider.

[ChiCubsFan]

Prior for Miguel Cabrera.

 

or

 

Prior for Pujols.

 

or

 

Prior for Santana.

 

Those are about the only 3 trades I'd consider.

 

I'm with you on that. I'd also consider a Prior for ARod if they picked up a SIGNIFICANT portion of his salary and he was willing to move back to SS.

[nilodnayr]

Prior for Miguel Cabrera.

 

or

 

Prior for Pujols.

 

or

 

Prior for Santana.

 

Those are about the only 3 trades I'd consider.

 

Or ARod

[ChiCubsFan]

Prior for Miguel Cabrera.

 

or

 

Prior for Pujols.

 

or

 

Prior for Santana.

 

Those are about the only 3 trades I'd consider.

 

Or ARod

 

Not if they didn't pick up any money. Prior is still cheap and Arod is gonna cost you a ton of cash. He's definitely a more valuable player and if salaries were equal I'd take Arod.

[nilodnayr]

A-Rod?

 

no thanks.

 

Arod would be a difference make at SS.

 

Arod in 2005: 321/421/610

Tejada in 2005: 304/349/515

 

Not even close!

 

And to think, Arod is younger than Tejada.

 

If you could get Arod (and he's willing to play SS) for Prior and another player...I'd jump at that deal.

 

And to get specific about AROD's contract, this is how much he is owed by the yanks from here on out

 

06: 10.43

07: 12.43

08: 12.43

09: 12.43

10: 12.43

11: 4.88

12: 4.88

13: 4.88

14: 4.88

15: 4.88

16: 4.88

17: 4.88

18: 4.88

19: 4.88

20: 4.88

 

11-20 are deferred payments, no longer under contract. Deferred payments were originally to be paid at 3% interest but were later reduced to an undisclosed rate, I assumed 2%.

 

In my opinion thats not a ton of cash at all, infact ignoring the deferred payments Prior will most likely only be paid slightly less money through 2010 than Arod. And by 2011 under normal inflation Arod's deferral payments should comprise about 4% of the cubs salary, by 2020, even less. Plus if you are to resign Prior youd have to lock him up into his downhill years.

[CuseCubFan69]

I don't think that Hendry is creative enough to go to the Yanks and ask about ARod. This one dimentional thinking by Hendry will continue to plague the Cubs for years. Yeah I like Tejada but ARod is the best out there and if he is available I think it would be worth it to see if it could be worked out.

 

Florida wouldn't be the right fit because of their current salary dump so Miggy is out of the question regarding Prior.

 

Pujols is the base of the Cards so I don't see that happening.

[katway]

I think nearly everyone would agree that ARod is a better player than Tejada. My only concern with ARod is that he may not be able to play SS again even if he was willing to do so. ARod has added about 20lbs to his frame in the last two years and is a little too tall to play SS throughout his career. So, when I think of ARod, I think of him as a 3rd baseman longterm and no longer a SS. If they go after ARod, then they may have to move ARam.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Although I'm sure I'm missing a few here's my "Guys I'd trade Prior straight up for" list:

 

Alex Rodriguez

Albert Pujols

Jason Bay

Michael Young

Miguel Cabrera

Travis Hafner

Mark Teixeira

David Wright

Chase Utley

Victor Martinez

Grady Sizemore

Joe Mauer (kind of funny when you think about it)

Rickie Weeks

 

 

Johan Santana

Dontrelle Willis

Joe Blanton

Ben Sheets

Carlos Zambrano (Think Hendry could pull this one off?)

Roy Oswalt (I'm not sure about his contract)

Jake Peavy (maybe)

 

 

It should be noted for health reasons I perfer position players. Also, I didn't base this list on actual Cub needs.

[CuseCubFan69]

Although I'm sure I'm missing a few here's my "Guys I'd trade Prior straight up for" list:

 

Alex Rodriguez

Albert Pujols

Jason Bay

Michael Young

Miguel Cabrera

Travis Hafner

Mark Teixeira

David Wright

Chase Utley

Victor Martinez

Grady Sizemore

Joe Mauer (kind of funny when you think about it)

Rickie Weeks

 

 

Johan Santana

Dontrelle Willis

Joe Blanton

Ben Sheets

Carlos Zambrano (Think Hendry could pull this one off?)

Roy Oswalt (I'm not sure about his contract)

Jake Peavy (maybe)

 

 

It should be noted for health reasons I perfer position players. Also, I didn't base this list on actual Cub needs.

 

Doesn't Mauer have knee problems? I think he might be an AL type catcher/DH from here on.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Although I'm sure I'm missing a few here's my "Guys I'd trade Prior straight up for" list:

 

Alex Rodriguez

Albert Pujols

Jason Bay

Michael Young

Miguel Cabrera

Travis Hafner

Mark Teixeira

David Wright

Chase Utley

Victor Martinez

Grady Sizemore

Joe Mauer (kind of funny when you think about it)

Rickie Weeks

 

 

Johan Santana

Dontrelle Willis

Joe Blanton

Ben Sheets

Carlos Zambrano (Think Hendry could pull this one off?)

Roy Oswalt (I'm not sure about his contract)

Jake Peavy (maybe)

 

 

It should be noted for health reasons I perfer position players. Also, I didn't base this list on actual Cub needs.

 

Doesn't Mauer have knee problems? I think he might be an AL type catcher/DH from here on.

 

Yeah, he's pretty borderline, however I prefer postion players.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Although I'm sure I'm missing a few here's my "Guys I'd trade Prior straight up for" list:

 

Alex Rodriguez

Albert Pujols

Jason Bay

Michael Young

Miguel Cabrera

Travis Hafner

Mark Teixeira

David Wright

Chase Utley

Victor Martinez

Grady Sizemore

Joe Mauer (kind of funny when you think about it)

Rickie Weeks

 

 

Johan Santana

Dontrelle Willis

Joe Blanton

Ben Sheets

Carlos Zambrano (Think Hendry could pull this one off?)

Roy Oswalt (I'm not sure about his contract)

Jake Peavy (maybe)

 

 

It should be noted for health reasons I perfer position players. Also, I didn't base this list on actual Cub needs.

 

All those guys are or have the potential to be very good players, but Rickie Weeks? Sizemore, Utley, and Young all have had about one good season(Young one good at home and elsewhere). For all of Prior's "problems", he's still 25, and he's one of the most valuable commodities in baseball when healthy. If you trade him with the impression that he may not be healthy or value him such, you're better off keeping him since you won't get equal value.

[Jazz]

i would take jeter for prior from the yankees and thats it. jeter to me is one of the best players in the game, a true champion and franchise player. i wouldnt take Arod, but Jeter, despite his age would be great for this team. i wouldnt trade prior for pretty much anybody else but johan santana and a few others. but jeter to me is too great to pass on and he would tear up it up nobody what league he's in. that catch when he ran with absolutely no abandon into the stands was just amazing. prior for jeter, where do i sign?

 

CF pierre

SS jeter

1B lee

3B ramirez

RF jones

C barrett

LF murton

2B cedeno/walker

 

I hope you are being sarcastic

How can you even compare Jeter to Arod, while yes Jeter is a nice player to have, hes not worth the price tag he comes with. He might be worth 19 million to the yankees, but what sentimental value does he have to us, he hasnt been a cub all his life now has he? Besides, Arod has him in every aspect of the game imaginable, hes a year younger, costs less (still being paid for by Texas partly, and is being paid by the Yankees for 17 mil in 06). Arod has more power, speed, better glove, better range, gets on base more. He basically dramatically improves the lineup in about every way imaginable. I think i would let Prior go for him.

[goonys evil twin]

Although I'm sure I'm missing a few here's my "Guys I'd trade Prior straight up for" list:

 

Alex Rodriguez

Albert Pujols

Jason Bay

Michael Young

Miguel Cabrera

Travis Hafner

Mark Teixeira

David Wright

Chase Utley

Victor Martinez

Grady Sizemore

Joe Mauer (kind of funny when you think about it)

Rickie Weeks

 

 

Johan Santana

Dontrelle Willis

Joe Blanton

Ben Sheets

Carlos Zambrano (Think Hendry could pull this one off?)

Roy Oswalt (I'm not sure about his contract)

Jake Peavy (maybe)

 

 

It should be noted for health reasons I perfer position players. Also, I didn't base this list on actual Cub needs.

 

Doesn't Mauer have knee problems? I think he might be an AL type catcher/DH from here on.

 

Yeah, he's pretty borderline, however I prefer postion players.

 

You'd be insane to trade Prior for Willis or Sheets. Straight up for ARod is dumb considering financials. A lot of those are absurd, there's only a couple guys who are worth him straight up.

[anemic offense]

A-Rod?

 

no thanks.

 

Arod would be a difference make at SS.

 

Arod in 2005: 321/421/610

Tejada in 2005: 304/349/515

 

Not even close!

 

And to think, Arod is younger than Tejada.

 

If you could get Arod (and he's willing to play SS) for Prior and another player...I'd jump at that deal.

 

No way. I don't care how much he helps the team there are some players who I could NEVER root for in a Cub uniform. A guy (though it takes two to tangle) who makes $25 million per season yet somehow thinks he and his grimy agent aren't part of the problem is one of them. ARod is a POS.

[BigbadB]

There are only 2 players that I would trade Prior for right now, and neither of them are available anyway, so it's a bit pointless to bring them up, but I'll do it anyway. Miguel Cabrera and Albert Pujols.

 

If neither of these guys are being offered for Prior, Prior should not be on the trade block.

 

What really irritates me right now is not necessarily the trade (since it hasn't been made yet), but the rumors of Prior being traded. Bad PR.

 

If Prior ends up staying, what does it do to his loyalty to the Cubs when he hears all these trade offers that include his name?

[illiniguy]

This is wonderful. Having not learned from the Greg Maddux ordeal years ago the Cubs have decided to let younger fans know what it feels like to let a young ace go. This franchise abuses its fans and like addicts we all line up and take it.

[Fro]

This is wonderful. Having not learned from the Greg Maddux ordeal years ago the Cubs have decided to let younger fans know what it feels like to let a young ace go. This franchise abuses its fans and like addicts we all line up and take it.

 

Prior hasn't pitched like an "ace" except for 2003. Gotta put some blame on the guy too for the Game 6 choke against the Marlins.

[illiniguy]

This is wonderful. Having not learned from the Greg Maddux ordeal years ago the Cubs have decided to let younger fans know what it feels like to let a young ace go. This franchise abuses its fans and like addicts we all line up and take it.

 

Prior hasn't pitched like an "ace" except for 2003.

right and how many 25 year old kids in the big leagues have. I will wait for your list, here let me get you started.

Dontrelle Willis