I'm game. So when Steve Kline suggest that Mark Prior get hit by one, it's wrong, and it's okay for two of us to say it. I'm becoming less and less proud to be a Cub fan with comments lke this. There's a 4-page thread on Ozzie Guillen, a manager with a World Series ring and a competitive team this year, and it's all negative. So many "real" Cub fans talk about how obsessed with the Cubs Sox fans are, and how they're fickle, and don't exist. Judging by this section of the board and half the people that are/were Cub "fans," many of us aren't too far from that either. I feel like making some of you feel like that Sox pitcher last night. Grow up. I find it real tough to criticize a manager who just brought a World Series to a town where our manager does nothing but underachieve and make excuses. Yes, it was wrong, but how many of you wouldn't trade Guillen for Baker? How bout it's a 5 page thread because it's big news in baseball. There's a long thread on it over at baseballthinkfactory. Damn those fans and their white sox obsession. Poll up at ESPN, can't that network just get over the White Sox already!!! I think "Ozzie Guillen has a ring so don't criticize him" may be my new most hated internet-ism. Derek Jeter's 6 year reign of "count the ringzzzzzz" has finally ended. Nobody's talking about Ozzie's managing skills now, they're talking about the fact that he's a colossal prick, which has been mathematically proven already. Talking about what a godawful manager Baker is contributes NOTHING to the conversation, beyond the fact that nobody's talking about Guillen's relative skills and faults as a manager,(faults in a WORLD SERIES CHAMPION MANAGER???? IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!! BOB BRENLY 4 LYFE) holding managers up to the standard of "at least he's better than Dusty" is going to wind up banning us from criticizing 90% of the managers in baseball.