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The Pirates have expressed interest in acquiring Nomar to play thirdbase.

 

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A Pirates source confirmed Thursday that the club has expressed interest in free-agent infielder Nomar Garciaparra, who spent an injury-plagued 2005 season with the Chicago Cubs.

 

"I will say that we're going to investigate all possibilities at that position," Littlefield said. "Some of those (players) may be guys who are established and bouncing back from injuries or changing positions."

 

 

The good news is if the Pirates sign him, it shouldn't be much trouble to pick him off the AAAA team if we need him in July.

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still don't understand why the Cubs don't look at him for left field.

 

I think Nomar would lose a lot of his value if he were to play a corner OF spot. I think the reason he's so valuable (or was) is because he plays a position that typically doesn't generate a great deal of offense. Not that he wouldn't be an upgrade offensively to what the Cubs trotted out there last year.

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Perfect fit. Washed up player & washed up organization.

 

Isn't Pittsburgh actually on the upswing? Everything I heard about their young players, and what I saw from their young pitchers, leans toward the postion that the Pirates may have a shot a renewed respectability. With a productive farm system, good things can happen. Look no further than Milwaukee.

 

I wouldn't consider Nomar washed up anyway. There is no arguing that his injuries over the last two years have made him a risky bet, but his bat is still potent. If he is resigned to the fact that SS is no longer in his future, at least on a full time basis, Nomar still can have tremendous value.

 

I don't think washed up fits for either entitiy.

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Perfect fit. Washed up player & washed up organization.

 

Isn't Pittsburgh actually on the upswing? Everything I heard about their young players, and what I saw from their young pitchers, leans toward the postion that the Pirates may have a shot a renewed respectability. With a productive farm system, good things can happen. Look no further than Milwaukee.

 

I wouldn't consider Nomar washed up anyway. There is no arguing that his injuries over the last two years have made him a risky bet, but his bat is still potent. If he is resigned to the fact that SS is no longer in his future, at least on a full time basis, Nomar still can have tremendous value.

 

I don't think washed up fits for either entitiy.

 

Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

Garciaparra needs to go to the AL and DH. His body's a wreck.

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Perfect fit. Washed up player & washed up organization.

 

Isn't Pittsburgh actually on the upswing? Everything I heard about their young players, and what I saw from their young pitchers, leans toward the postion that the Pirates may have a shot a renewed respectability. With a productive farm system, good things can happen. Look no further than Milwaukee.

 

I wouldn't consider Nomar washed up anyway. There is no arguing that his injuries over the last two years have made him a risky bet, but his bat is still potent. If he is resigned to the fact that SS is no longer in his future, at least on a full time basis, Nomar still can have tremendous value.

 

I don't think washed up fits for either entitiy.

 

Pittsburgh has a lot of young talent, and they already have one of the top 10 players in baseball locked up for a bunch of years. They are a team on the rise. If they can get anything from Wells, Wilson, Redman, Mesa, they will have a good team. Heck, as it stands right now, the Pirates have a better team than the Cubs for 06.

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still don't understand why the Cubs don't look at him for left field.

 

There is this annoying little thing called player choice. Numerous reports have stated that Hendry did ask Nomar to play LF, and that Nomar said basically 'no thank you'.

 

If Nomar had said yes, several writers have indicated a deal would have been done already.

 

It isn't always Hendry's fault for not pursuing/acquiring the public's desired target. The players have a say.

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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

Where does Pittsburgh rank in revenue with the likes of Oakland, Minnesota, Cleveland and Florida? I have no idea, but I wager they are on the same side of the scale.

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still don't understand why the Cubs don't look at him for left field.

 

There is this annoying little thing called player choice. Numerous reports have stated that Hendry did ask Nomar to play LF, and that Nomar said basically 'no thank you'.

 

If Nomar had said yes, several writers have indicated a deal would have been done already.

 

It isn't always Hendry's fault for not pursuing/acquiring the public's desired target. The players have a say.

 

Though I'm not saying they don't exist, I haven't seen such reports. In fact, I thought there was a recent report in which Nomar told a potential suitor that he would consider playing in the outfield.

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still don't understand why the Cubs don't look at him for left field.

 

There is this annoying little thing called player choice. Numerous reports have stated that Hendry did ask Nomar to play LF, and that Nomar said basically 'no thank you'.

 

If Nomar had said yes, several writers have indicated a deal would have been done already.

 

It isn't always Hendry's fault for not pursuing/acquiring the public's desired target. The players have a say.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/01/sports/baseball/01sportsbriefs.ready.html

 

"I'm willing to play wherever teams ask me to play,"
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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

When was the last time you where in Pittsburg? I was there last year for a few Cub games over the couse of a weekend. The city is alive and well. The downtown is thriving and they have new shopping and tourism attractions.

 

IMO, the problem is that they haven't been good in a long time. If the Steelers can sell out Heinz field, the Pirates can sell out PNC.

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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

When was the last time you where in Pittsburg? I was there last year for a few Cub games over the couse of a weekend. The city is alive and well. The downtown is thriving and they have new shopping and tourism attractions.

 

IMO, the problem is that they haven't been good in a long time. If the Steelers can cell out Heinz field, the Pirates can sell out PNC.

 

Agreed. A decade of hopelessness is going to hurt any team's revenue stream (and before somebody says, "not the Cubs") the revenues from the post 98 team to now dwarfed what they saw in the mid 90s. Cubs fans have been teased with the possibility of greatness, Pirates fans haven't seen a 80 win season since 92.

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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

Where does Pittsburgh rank in revenue with the likes of Oakland, Minnesota, Cleveland and Florida? I have no idea, but I wager they are on the same side of the scale.

 

Am guessing the same. Considering regional economics, I'm not expecting much from Cincy, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland or Milwaukee, for quite some time. Yes, they might have a good year from time to time, like Cleveland did last year, but those regions are continuning to decline economically. Either they need someone like Cuban or Billy Beane needs to clone himself or baseball needs a salary cap like the NFL.

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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

Where does Pittsburgh rank in revenue with the likes of Oakland, Minnesota, Cleveland and Florida? I have no idea, but I wager they are on the same side of the scale.

 

Am guessing the same. Considering regional economics, I'm not expecting much from Cincy, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland or Milwaukee, for quite some time. Yes, they might have a good year from time to time, like Cleveland did last year, but those regions are continuning to decline economically. Either they need someone like Cuban or Billy Beane needs to clone himself or baseball needs a salary cap like the NFL.

 

How do you explain the Minnesota Twins?????????

 

They just nabbed the best 2nd in the NL.

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Pittsburgh's still a football and hockey town. The Pirates will never be as popular as those teams. Even in the "We Are Family" days, the Steelers took their glory by winning 4 titles in the 70s. Sure, winning would help out a ton, but I think they have been too bad for too long, in a city that doesn't live and die with baseball for them to ever perrennially sell out.
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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

When was the last time you where in Pittsburg? I was there last year for a few Cub games over the couse of a weekend. The city is alive and well. The downtown is thriving and they have new shopping and tourism attractions.

 

IMO, the problem is that they haven't been good in a long time. If the Steelers can sell out Heinz field, the Pirates can sell out PNC.

 

Why would I want to go to Pittsburgh? Yikes! So what, they threw a bunch of government money to bring alive downtown. So did Cincy. It still doesn't change the fact that they're both old economy cities. Both places should be one sport towns. Send the baseball franchises to the East or West Coast or to Chicago.

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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

When was the last time you where in Pittsburg? I was there last year for a few Cub games over the couse of a weekend. The city is alive and well. The downtown is thriving and they have new shopping and tourism attractions.

 

IMO, the problem is that they haven't been good in a long time. If the Steelers can sell out Heinz field, the Pirates can sell out PNC.

 

Why would I want to go to Pittsburgh? Yikes! So what, they threw a bunch of government money to bring alive downtown. So did Cincy. It still doesn't change the fact that they're both old economy cities. Both places should be one sport towns. Send the baseball franchises to the East or West Coast or to Chicago.

 

whatever. I just find it funny (not really) that you would bag on a place you know nothing about. The old economy you talk about was gone a long time ago. But to each his own I guess.

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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

Where does Pittsburgh rank in revenue with the likes of Oakland, Minnesota, Cleveland and Florida? I have no idea, but I wager they are on the same side of the scale.

 

Am guessing the same. Considering regional economics, I'm not expecting much from Cincy, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland or Milwaukee, for quite some time. Yes, they might have a good year from time to time, like Cleveland did last year, but those regions are continuning to decline economically. Either they need someone like Cuban or Billy Beane needs to clone himself or baseball needs a salary cap like the NFL.

 

How do you explain the Minnesota Twins?????????

 

They just nabbed the best 2nd in the NL.

 

Notice I didn't lump them in w/ Pitt, Cleveland, Cincy.... I should have seperated Minny from Pittsburgh though. I think their payroll was in the high 50's, and Minny's a more innovative/thriving city than Pitt, Cincy, etc.

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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

Where does Pittsburgh rank in revenue with the likes of Oakland, Minnesota, Cleveland and Florida? I have no idea, but I wager they are on the same side of the scale.

 

Am guessing the same. Considering regional economics, I'm not expecting much from Cincy, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland or Milwaukee, for quite some time. Yes, they might have a good year from time to time, like Cleveland did last year, but those regions are continuning to decline economically. Either they need someone like Cuban or Billy Beane needs to clone himself or baseball needs a salary cap like the NFL.

 

How do you explain the Minnesota Twins?????????

 

They just nabbed the best 2nd in the NL.

 

Notice I didn't lump them in w/ Pitt, Cleveland, Cincy.... I should have seperated them from Pittsburgh though. I think their payroll was in the high 50's, and Minny's a more innovative/thriving city than Pitt, Cincy, etc.

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Unless someone like Cuban buys Pittsburgh, I can't see them turning it around, as they just don't produce the revenue to be real competitive. That franchise just like the city seems to be going downhill.

 

When was the last time you where in Pittsburg? I was there last year for a few Cub games over the couse of a weekend. The city is alive and well. The downtown is thriving and they have new shopping and tourism attractions.

 

IMO, the problem is that they haven't been good in a long time. If the Steelers can sell out Heinz field, the Pirates can sell out PNC.

 

Why would I want to go to Pittsburgh? Yikes! So what, they threw a bunch of government money to bring alive downtown. So did Cincy. It still doesn't change the fact that they're both old economy cities. Both places should be one sport towns. Send the baseball franchises to the East or West Coast or to Chicago.

 

whatever. I just find it funny (not really) that you would bag on a place you know nothing about. The old economy you talk about was gone a long time ago. But to each his own I guess.

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