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Im curious, if we had Pierre in CF and Fucal at SS, do you guys think Hendry (or the fans, for that matter) would let Dusty bat Neifi! in the 2 hole (assuming he's sharing time with Ronny C at 2nd base)? I realize Dusty makes some crazy decisions that make no sense, but wouldn't this just cross the line? Could he possibly get away with this?

 

No, Dusty would probably hit Neifi fifth.

 

Dude, did you see that slam he hit in St. Louis? Dude's got power!

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Bruce is reporting that a Pierre deal is very, very hot and could happen very, very soon!!! And the Cubs might not have to get rid of a CF (ie. Felix Pie) to get him, either but rather young arms.

 

That would be good

 

I haven't been a big Pierre fan. I've been pretty interested in picking him up as a salary dump, while paying little. If Cubs also acquire Furcal, and trade for Pierre and he bats second, he might lose all his SB value; how often will he try to steal in front of Lee and Aram?

 

When there was talk of Pierre for Corey, I was enthused about that, because Corey at $2.5 is way expensive for a guy who isn't going to start. He's an expendable guy, so if Corey is a central piece, add in a Mitre and you've maybe got a deal, awesome.

 

But with "young arms" plural, it depends on the arms. Now we aren't just talking about unloading Corey's lousy contract.

 

Thinking it's going to be Wellemeyer/Novoa types, guys we don't want anyway, is wishful thinking. Nolasco and Marshall, that's a different equation. Nolasco and Hill, that's a different equation.

 

I see Corey, Mitre, Wellemeyer, and Novoa as guys who are expendable. Corey's salary is too high and he's pretty worthless if you've acquired an every-day CF. Mitre and Wellemeyer are out of options, and don't seem qualified to make the team, so they'll need to be exposed to waivers come March. Even if they do make the team, they seem unlikely to be productive players. So giving up guys like that, great; that's sacrificing nothing, really.

 

But if it's two out of the Hill, Nolasco, Marshall, Guzman, Mateo pool, that's a different and much more serious cost.

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Bruce is reporting that a Pierre deal is very, very hot and could happen very, very soon!!! And the Cubs might not have to get rid of a CF (ie. Felix Pie) to get him, either but rather young arms.

 

That would be good

 

I haven't been a big Pierre fan. I've been pretty interested in picking him up as a salary dump, while paying little. If Cubs also acquire Furcal, and trade for Pierre and he bats second, he might lose all his SB value; how often will he try to steal in front of Lee and Aram?

 

When there was talk of Pierre for Corey, I was enthused about that, because Corey at $2.5 is way expensive for a guy who isn't going to start. He's an expendable guy, so if Corey is a central piece, add in a Mitre and you've maybe got a deal, awesome.

 

But with "young arms" plural, it depends on the arms. Now we aren't just talking about unloading Corey's lousy contract.

 

Thinking it's going to be Wellemeyer/Novoa types, guys we don't want anyway, is wishful thinking. Nolasco and Marshall, that's a different equation. Nolasco and Hill, that's a different equation.

 

I see Corey, Mitre, Wellemeyer, and Novoa as guys who are expendable. Corey's salary is too high and he's pretty worthless if you've acquired an every-day CF. Mitre and Wellemeyer are out of options, and don't seem qualified to make the team, so they'll need to be exposed to waivers come March. Even if they do make the team, they seem unlikely to be productive players. So giving up guys like that, great; that's sacrificing nothing, really.

 

But if it's two out of the Hill, Nolasco, Marshall, Guzman, Mateo pool, that's a different and much more serious cost.

 

I would hold on to Novoa if possible. I thought he did a pretty good job last year. Of course if a big time trade depended on including Novoa, then go ahead and do it.

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i've listened to the SCORE and ESPN 1000 all afternoon and there's been no mention of this

 

Ah, gotta love the Hotstove offseason and rumors made up by people on other websites. Didn't have much faith in this one anyway. I still see us probably getting Pierre, but I don't think anything will be done anytime soon.

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The rumor could be true, I hope it is not; howerver I don't think we'll see much happen at least until the Winter meetings next meonth. I think GMs use this meeting to start the ball rolling.

 

But we should keep this in mind, Hendry spent a lot of time in the Marlin organization as a scout and whatnot. He has traded with Florida in the past, Alf/Clement for Sybil/Willis and the Chio for Lee trade. He usually gives a good deal. For this reason I have to believe that at least one good young arm will go if the Cubs get Piere, and probably more.

 

To me that cost is too high.

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Did you actually hear it yourself? Forums are often bad sources for trade rumors.

 

I didn't hear it myself but this "WinWorldSeriesPlease" guy said that Levine sounded confident in saying it. Someone on this board might have heard it. I believe the guy who posted.

In the future, please confirm the source yourself before posting something like this. It's fine to start a thread saying X poster on Y site reported Z, but don't include a media source's name unless you heard it yourself.

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Just remember a couple years ago, several sources reported "Pierzynski to the Cubs is a done deal" and we all woke up the next day to find he was in San Francisco.

 

I'm just saying. It's not over until the press conference.

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Just remember a couple years ago, several sources reported "Pierzynski to the Cubs is a done deal" and we all woke up the next day to find he was in San Francisco.

 

I'm just saying. It's not over until the press conference.

 

Or the phantom station (was it out of AZ?) that said Pudge had signed with the Cubs.

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Reported on ESPN 1000 [not confirmed] and found on a Prosportsdailyforum:

 

Bruce is reporting that a Pierre deal is very, very hot and could happen very, very soon!!! And the Cubs might not have to get rid of a CF (ie. Felix Pie) to get him, either but rather young arms.

 

That would be good

 

Funny, because to a normal fan that would mean not corey not not pie.

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Reported on ESPN 1000 [not confirmed] and found on a Prosportsdailyforum:

 

Bruce is reporting that a Pierre deal is very, very hot and could happen very, very soon!!! And the Cubs might not have to get rid of a CF (ie. Felix Pie) to get him, either but rather young arms.

 

That would be good

 

Funny, because to a normal fan that would mean not corey not not pie.

 

I was thinking that myself....

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Reported on ESPN 1000 [not confirmed] and found on a Prosportsdailyforum:

 

Bruce is reporting that a Pierre deal is very, very hot and could happen very, very soon!!! And the Cubs might not have to get rid of a CF (ie. Felix Pie) to get him, either but rather young arms.

 

That would be good

 

Funny, because to a normal fan that would mean not corey not not pie.

 

When is a Cubs fan considered "normal?"

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Reported on ESPN 1000 [not confirmed] and found on a Prosportsdailyforum:

 

Bruce is reporting that a Pierre deal is very, very hot and could happen very, very soon!!! And the Cubs might not have to get rid of a CF (ie. Felix Pie) to get him, either but rather young arms.

 

That would be good

 

Funny, because to a normal fan that would mean not corey not not pie.

 

When is a Cubs fan considered "normal?"

 

I've been accused of a lot of things in my time..... being "normal" was never one of them. :wink:

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Reported on ESPN 1000 [not confirmed] and found on a Prosportsdailyforum:

 

Bruce is reporting that a Pierre deal is very, very hot and could happen very, very soon!!! And the Cubs might not have to get rid of a CF (ie. Felix Pie) to get him, either but rather young arms.

 

That would be good

 

Funny, because to a normal fan that would mean not corey not not pie.

 

When is a Cubs fan considered "normal?"

 

I've been accused of a lot of things in my time..... being "normal" was never one of them. :wink:

 

I've been consider "abnormal", does that count?

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on the 5:00 SportsCenter update on ESPN1000, it was reported that "the Cubs are trying to finish a deal to get Juan Pierre for a couple of minor leaguers." No word on who the minor leaguers are.
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on the 5:00 SportsCenter update on ESPN1000, it was reported that "the Cubs are trying to finish a deal to get Juan Pierre for a couple of minor leaguers." No word on who the minor leaguers are.

 

I think you should start a thread about this or maybe we could get a mod to edit the title of this thread. I wonder who the minor leaguers would be if Hendry has come out and said he won't trade Pie or Hill.

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