Anyone Want Bradley for a bag of balls?

[b_wiggy_66]

Thursday article in Newsday says:

 

"Many team officials hold large reservations over pursuing Milton Bradley, whom the Dodgers will trade for virtually nothing."

 

Why not give the Dodgers a mid level prospect for him and tell Dusty to play his little cheerleader game for him. Bradley may be similar to Terell Owens, but maybe he can fit in and he is a good player. Especially if you can get him for almost nothing.

 

However, the way Hendry and Dusty played the clubhouse chemistry card last year I doubt it will happen.

 

What do you guys think?

Edited November 10, 2005 by b_wiggy_66

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'd jump all over it.

 

First of all, Bradley can play CF which is a position of need. He's also capable of playing RF if you are unable to upgrade there.

 

He's only 27 years old. Last season, he hit 290/350/484. From 2002-2004, he hit 290/379/463. Since 2002, he's been very, very good and has a season with an OPS of 900+.

 

I know that he carries with him a lot of baggage, but with the weak free agent crop and the need for the Cubs to have productive players in the outfield, I wouldn't hesitate to make a quick offer for him.

 

If the Cubs still want to pursue Pierre, they can move Bradley to right.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I like Bradley too, but nothing about Hendry's actions would lead me to believe he'll take a risk on a problem child, no matter his potential production.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I like Bradley too, but nothing about Hendry's actions would lead me to believe he'll take a risk on a problem child, no matter his potential production.

 

I agree. I definitely think Hendry will try to pursue other options. I just think Bradley would be a perfect target and would make the perfect project to test Dusty's abilities as someone who can manage a clubhouse.

[CuseCubFan69]

I like Bradley too, but nothing about Hendry's actions would lead me to believe he'll take a risk on a problem child, no matter his potential production.

 

I agree. I definitely think Hendry will try to pursue other options. I just think Bradley would be a perfect target and would make the perfect project to test Dusty's abilities as someone who can manage a clubhouse.

 

IMO Bakers abilities to manage a clubhouse are to play the veterans. He can't control the players like Bonds, Kent or Bradley.

[Tedward]

I like Bradley too, but nothing about Hendry's actions would lead me to believe he'll take a risk on a problem child, no matter his potential production.

 

I agree. I definitely think Hendry will try to pursue other options. I just think Bradley would be a perfect target and would make the perfect project to test Dusty's abilities as someone who can manage a clubhouse.

 

IMO Bakers abilities to manage a clubhouse are to play the veterans. He can't control the players like Bonds, Kent or Bradley.

 

Hmmn. You serious cuse? I thought Baker did a half-way decent job in SF from keeping Bonds and Kent from killing each other.

 

Are there any other volatile personalities on the Cubs at the present time that could potentially send Bradley off ? I'm not aware of any. I think the Cubs would be a good situation for Bradley considering their star player and manager both share the same race. It would appear that it would make for a comfortable environment for him.

[CheeseHead Cubs Fan]

I like Bradley too, but nothing about Hendry's actions would lead me to believe he'll take a risk on a problem child, no matter his potential production.

 

I agree. I definitely think Hendry will try to pursue other options. I just think Bradley would be a perfect target and would make the perfect project to test Dusty's abilities as someone who can manage a clubhouse.

 

IMO Bakers abilities to manage a clubhouse are to play the veterans. He can't control the players like Bonds, Kent or Bradley.

 

How so? I have heard nothing but praise from Bonds, Kent and other players Dusty used to manage. I am not saying Baker is the greatest manager, just wondering if you know something I dont...

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I like Bradley too, but nothing about Hendry's actions would lead me to believe he'll take a risk on a problem child, no matter his potential production.

 

I agree. I definitely think Hendry will try to pursue other options. I just think Bradley would be a perfect target and would make the perfect project to test Dusty's abilities as someone who can manage a clubhouse.

 

IMO Bakers abilities to manage a clubhouse are to play the veterans. He can't control the players like Bonds, Kent or Bradley.

 

Hmmn. You serious cuse? I thought Baker did a half-way decent job in SF from keeping Bonds and Kent from killing each other.

 

Are there any other volatile personalities on the Cubs at the present time that could potentially send Bradley off ? I'm not aware of any. I think the Cubs would be a good situation for Bradley considering their star player and manager both share the same race. It would appear that it would make for a comfortable environment for him.

 

Most of the regular Cubs appear to be either soft-spoken or good guys. Barrett, Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Ramirez, Lee, Murton, Dempster, Maddux, etc. The only person I could envision remotely having an issue with another teammate like that would be Walker. Even then I'd bet against that happening, and he's apparently likely to be dealt.

[Magnetic Curses]

i think hendry has proven that he'd rather get a poor producing "clubhouse guy", than a talented perceived "clubhouse cancer".

 

which upsets me greatly, as it is my belief that team chemistry in baseball is the most overrated term ever used in sports history. history has borne out that chemistry has little to no effect on a team's performance.

[E.J.]

How about a trade like this:

 

Cubs get Bradley

Dodgers get Dusty and a lifetime supply of toothpicks

 

Are we getting enough in that deal? :D

[CuseCubFan69]

Bonds and Kent did get into a fight, right? The idea is to defuse that before it happens. My point is that Baker, by playing useless vets, keeps them from complaining thus keeps the clubhouse happy. Rookies don't scream and yell like a vet would because they don't have the power to do so. Didn't the clubhouse fall apart in 2004 and didn't Hendry claim to go after clubhouse/chemistry guys? Yes, Hendry did and that is why there were no problems last year not because Dusty waved his magic dust on them.

 

Look how Perez feels about Baker. Why? Because he plays why in earth would he complain? Macias? The same. Holla? The same. They play more than they should and there is the power of Baker. Yeah, Dusty is a nice guy and I don't don't that for a second but what does he do to to keep the team from acting out of line or constantly screwing up fundamentals? I'll be honest and say I have no clue what goes on behind the scenes on what Baker does to repremend a player but when you see the same type of mental errors over and over again when is enough, enough?

 

So, when Bradley acts up and he will what will Baker do? Us against them? If I hear this again in 2006 this team is over for me until Baker is gone. Let me ask this. What did Baker do to handle Sosa? Did it work?

[CuseCubFan69]

i think hendry has proven that he'd rather get a poor producing "clubhouse guy", than a talented perceived "clubhouse cancer".

 

which upsets me greatly, as it is my belief that team chemistry in baseball is the most overrated term ever used in sports history. history has borne out that chemistry has little to no effect on a team's performance.

 

I agree. IMO winning usually breads chemistry.

[ManEatingTarp]

How about a trade like this:

 

Cubs get Bradley

Dodgers get Dusty and a lifetime supply of toothpicks

 

Are we getting enough in that deal? :D

 

That's a lot of toothpicks dude.

[Andy]

If Hendry knows we can get Bradley for little more than a mid-level prospect and maybe a Rule 5 arm, then he'd be absurdly dumb not to jump on it.

[mg420]

If Hendry knows we can get Bradley for little more than a mid-level prospect and maybe a Rule 5 arm, then he'd be absurdly dumb not to jump on it.

 

not if he can get pierre from the fish for cp as has been rumored.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Hendry knows we can get Bradley for little more than a mid-level prospect and maybe a Rule 5 arm, then he'd be absurdly dumb not to jump on it.

 

not if he can get pierre from the fish for cp as has been rumored.

 

If I'm signing Furcal, as has been rumored, I'd rather have Bradley than Pierre. Also, trading for Bradley doesn't preclude you from trading for Pierre and moving Bradley to right.

[mg420]

If Hendry knows we can get Bradley for little more than a mid-level prospect and maybe a Rule 5 arm, then he'd be absurdly dumb not to jump on it.

 

not if he can get pierre from the fish for cp as has been rumored.

 

If I'm signing Furcal, as has been rumored, I'd rather have Bradley than Pierre. Also, trading for Bradley doesn't preclude you from trading for Pierre and moving Bradley to right.

 

thats fine but as has been stated above, there is virtually no chance of the cubs getting a guy with bradley's issues. i would rather see pierre in cf than bradley. on paper bradley has better #'s but in reality he's a bomb waiting to go off. maybe he and urbina can be pen pals from their respective jail cells.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Hendry knows we can get Bradley for little more than a mid-level prospect and maybe a Rule 5 arm, then he'd be absurdly dumb not to jump on it.

 

not if he can get pierre from the fish for cp as has been rumored.

 

If I'm signing Furcal, as has been rumored, I'd rather have Bradley than Pierre. Also, trading for Bradley doesn't preclude you from trading for Pierre and moving Bradley to right.

 

thats fine but as has been stated above, there is virtually no chance of the cubs getting a guy with bradley's issues. i would rather see pierre in cf than bradley. on paper bradley has better #'s but in reality he's a bomb waiting to go off. maybe he and urbina can be pen pals from their respective jail cells.

 

Bradley is a better fielder than Pierre. He has more power than Pierre. He likely will get on base better than Pierre. He's put up a 900+ OPS once in his lifetime, a number Pierre could only dream about. Does he have some issues, surely. Because of those issues, his cost in salary and players, is also less than Pierre. I agree that I doubt the Cubs look at him. Of course, that shows how inept they've been at creatively making this team better.

 

After 2004, they wanted to get rid of the bad apples. Well, they did and our team was worse for it.

 

I agree the Cubs won't make a run for Bradley, but they should. Once again, not pursuing him is another bad decision on the part of the Cubs.

[Brian]

I like the looks of this team

 

Barrett

Lee

Cedeno .... Perez

Ramirez

Furcal

Murton

Pierre

Bradley

 

How much $$$ is left over... still a chance at getting another pitcher or 2?

[mg420]

If Hendry knows we can get Bradley for little more than a mid-level prospect and maybe a Rule 5 arm, then he'd be absurdly dumb not to jump on it.

 

not if he can get pierre from the fish for cp as has been rumored.

 

If I'm signing Furcal, as has been rumored, I'd rather have Bradley than Pierre. Also, trading for Bradley doesn't preclude you from trading for Pierre and moving Bradley to right.

 

thats fine but as has been stated above, there is virtually no chance of the cubs getting a guy with bradley's issues. i would rather see pierre in cf than bradley. on paper bradley has better #'s but in reality he's a bomb waiting to go off. maybe he and urbina can be pen pals from their respective jail cells.

 

Bradley is a better fielder than Pierre. He has more power than Pierre. He likely will get on base better than Pierre. He's put up a 900+ OPS once in his lifetime, a number Pierre could only dream about. Does he have some issues, surely. Because of those issues, his cost in salary and players, is also less than Pierre. I agree that I doubt the Cubs look at him. Of course, that shows how inept they've been at creatively making this team better.

 

After 2004, they wanted to get rid of the bad apples. Well, they did and our team was worse for it.

 

I agree the Cubs won't make a run for Bradley, but they should. Once again, not pursuing him is another bad decision on the part of the Cubs.

 

i guess we disagree. i dont want a psycho thug like bradley on the cubs no matter what his #'s might be. if the starting pitching can stay healthy the difference between pierre & bradley won't matter much anyway imo (again assuming that game boy can stay out of jail). it says alot if the dodgers are willing to virtually give a potential .900 ops guy away.

[RynoRules]

If Hendry knows we can get Bradley for little more than a mid-level prospect and maybe a Rule 5 arm, then he'd be absurdly dumb not to jump on it.

 

not if he can get pierre from the fish for cp as has been rumored.

 

If I'm signing Furcal, as has been rumored, I'd rather have Bradley than Pierre. Also, trading for Bradley doesn't preclude you from trading for Pierre and moving Bradley to right.

 

thats fine but as has been stated above, there is virtually no chance of the cubs getting a guy with bradley's issues. i would rather see pierre in cf than bradley. on paper bradley has better #'s but in reality he's a bomb waiting to go off. maybe he and urbina can be pen pals from their respective jail cells.

 

Bradley is a better fielder than Pierre. He has more power than Pierre. He likely will get on base better than Pierre. He's put up a 900+ OPS once in his lifetime, a number Pierre could only dream about. Does he have some issues, surely. Because of those issues, his cost in salary and players, is also less than Pierre. I agree that I doubt the Cubs look at him. Of course, that shows how inept they've been at creatively making this team better.

 

After 2004, they wanted to get rid of the bad apples. Well, they did and our team was worse for it.

 

I agree the Cubs won't make a run for Bradley, but they should. Once again, not pursuing him is another bad decision on the part of the Cubs.

 

Has Hendry come out and say that he doesn't want him?

[JeffH]

When another team is willing to give you talent in exchange for no talent, you have to accept the offer, especially if no money is committed.

 

You don't even have to commit any money to the guy until December, for Pete's sake!

 

At that time, if you don't want him, nontender him!

[JeffH]

How much $$$ is left over... still a chance at getting another pitcher or 2?

 

That lineup would leave enough money to bid heavily on A.J. Burnett, if you wanted to.

[cjbucks]

If Hendry knows we can get Bradley for little more than a mid-level prospect and maybe a Rule 5 arm, then he'd be absurdly dumb not to jump on it.

 

not if he can get pierre from the fish for cp as has been rumored.

 

If I'm signing Furcal, as has been rumored, I'd rather have Bradley than Pierre. Also, trading for Bradley doesn't preclude you from trading for Pierre and moving Bradley to right.

 

thats fine but as has been stated above, there is virtually no chance of the cubs getting a guy with bradley's issues. i would rather see pierre in cf than bradley. on paper bradley has better #'s but in reality he's a bomb waiting to go off. maybe he and urbina can be pen pals from their respective jail cells.

 

Bradley is a better fielder than Pierre. He has more power than Pierre. He likely will get on base better than Pierre. He's put up a 900+ OPS once in his lifetime, a number Pierre could only dream about. Does he have some issues, surely. Because of those issues, his cost in salary and players, is also less than Pierre. I agree that I doubt the Cubs look at him. Of course, that shows how inept they've been at creatively making this team better.

 

After 2004, they wanted to get rid of the bad apples. Well, they did and our team was worse for it.

 

I agree the Cubs won't make a run for Bradley, but they should. Once again, not pursuing him is another bad decision on the part of the Cubs.

 

I gotta agree - I would like to have Bradley. If we get Bradley and Furcal I move Bradley to right if possible and keep Patterson in center and the 8 hole. If Patterson doesn't pan out again make a move for a Lofton like person at midseason or bring up Pie.

[ltb]

i'd love to have bradley. if dusty has to be here, make him earn his money as a "player's manager."