Bradley Could Be a Non-Tendered ?!?!?

[rawaction]

Haven't there at least been whispers about Hendry being interested in Bradley? Why is everyone so surprised?

[Geech]

Bruce, I see you lurking. Any info on this that you're privy to? :D

 

It would be good for the team, so it's dollars to donuts that Hendry isn't even considering the move.

[nilodnayr]

Haven't there at least been whispers about Hendry being interested in Bradley? Why is everyone so surprised?

 

Really? Where have you heard those? Not to question you, but because that would be exciting!

[snoodmonger]

Haven't there at least been whispers about Hendry being interested in Bradley? Why is everyone so surprised?

 

Really? Where have you heard those? Not to question you, but because that would be exciting!

 

i was thinking the same thing.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Haven't there at least been whispers about Hendry being interested in Bradley? Why is everyone so surprised?

 

Really? Where have you heard those? Not to question you, but because that would be exciting!

 

Hoops posted a thread where he said there was a three-way trade possibility between the Cubs/Marlins/Dodgers in which the Cubs get Bradley.

[nilodnayr]

Besides, has Bradley ever had a problem with teammates? Jose Guillen wasn't even allowed on the postseason roster last year because of some falling out, then he went to Washington and people raved about how good a guy he was.

 

He's had well-documented problems with Jeff Kent in LA.

 

Now, whether you think that falls on Bradley or Kent is another matter altogether...

I believe the story went, Bradley said to a reporter that Kent was being an a-hole and wasnt talking to the black players and was being discrimatory. Former teammate and seemingly good guy, Brad Ausmus, quipped "thats crazy, Kent hates all people the same" or something like that. Frankly, I wouldn't exactly call that a clubhouse problem. And in all honesty I think he handled the beer bottle (plasitc) situation about as well as you could hope him to. He could have easily chucked it back and tried to hit the guy or God forbid pull an Artest. IMO at least publicly hes improved his maturity with age.

[nilodnayr]

Haven't there at least been whispers about Hendry being interested in Bradley? Why is everyone so surprised?

 

Really? Where have you heard those? Not to question you, but because that would be exciting!

 

Hoops posted a thread where he said there was a three-way trade possibility between the Cubs/Marlins/Dodgers in which the Cubs get Bradley.

 

Ohh right, I forgot those are whispers. Unfortunately he prefaced it with take it with an extreme grain of salt. Because pretty much all of us would have sacrificed our lives to get that deal done.

[rawaction]

Haven't there at least been whispers about Hendry being interested in Bradley? Why is everyone so surprised?

 

Really? Where have you heard those? Not to question you, but because that would be exciting!

 

Hoops posted a thread where he said there was a three-way trade possibility between the Cubs/Marlins/Dodgers in which the Cubs get Bradley.

 

Yeah, that's what I was referring to.

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/PremiumForum/viewtopic.php?t=25874&highlight=bradley&sid=af3482b776cb1464389ebbcea040dcce

[rawaction]

BTW, Bradley is just 2 years away from a .900 OPS season. If he gets back to that and behaves himself, he could be a strong option for RF for the Cubs (if Pie pans out).

[oldcubsfan]

There is zero chance of Bradley ending up here. The Cubs have no interest in acquiring people who will create more headlines off the field than creating headlines by their play. Once again, ZERO chance of him trying to rehab is anger problems here. Besides, I'd much rather have Manny if I wanted a "problem child" and so would the Cubs.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

There is zero chance of Bradley ending up here. The Cubs have no interest in acquiring people who will create more headlines off the field than creating headlines by their play. Once again, ZERO chance of him trying to rehab is anger problems here. Besides, I'd much rather have Manny if I wanted a "problem child" and so would the Cubs.

 

The Cubs have a better chance of getting Bradley than Manny. And I'm guessing you're making your "zero chance" statement on gut feeling and no actual source information.

[SCCubbieFAN]

Giving up a prospect for Bradley isn't my problem. The problem is I think we could save about 1M by not having to go thru arbitration with him if we wait for the non-tender.

 

SSR: If Bradley is non-tendered, he becomes a FA. Then the Cubs will have to bid against other teams for his services. IMO, Bradley will get more being a FA than he will in arbitration. Just my opinion.

 

I disagree, I see him getting 4M+ in arbitration, and I think his clubhouse problems are going to make him greatly undervalued on the open market.

 

And why would his "problems" not affect him in arbitration?

[SouthSideRyan]

Because an arbitrator is far more likely to be swayed by stats than by something that can't be proven, like Bradley being a negative influence. GMs are allowed to pay by intangible, but when you're an impartial party, you're going to need hard evidence.

[NorthsideAvenger]

There is zero chance of Bradley ending up here. The Cubs have no interest in acquiring people who will create more headlines off the field than creating headlines by their play. Once again, ZERO chance of him trying to rehab is anger problems here. Besides, I'd much rather have Manny if I wanted a "problem child" and so would the Cubs.

 

Bradley has "the spark." He can do it all....run, throw, hit, field, and flat out lay out, whereas Ramirez is a 1-D player. Granted the 1 dimension he does do well in, is amazing...gimme Bradley's "intensity" and the ability to play the game the right way...hard and fast...over Ramirez, who IS disinterested in playing most of the time. In some way...Bradley is what Patterson should be, but isn't.

 

Bradley, IMO, is a better fit for Chicago, then Manny, and Hendry would have to be a fool to not go after Bradley.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

There is zero chance of Bradley ending up here. The Cubs have no interest in acquiring people who will create more headlines off the field than creating headlines by their play. Once again, ZERO chance of him trying to rehab is anger problems here. Besides, I'd much rather have Manny if I wanted a "problem child" and so would the Cubs.

 

Bradley has "the spark." He can do it all....run, throw, hit, field, and flat out lay out, whereas Ramirez is a 1-D player. Granted the 1 dimension he does do well in, is amazing...gimme Bradley's "intensity" and the ability to play the game the right way...hard and fast...over Ramirez, who IS disinterested in playing most of the time. In some way...Bradley is what Patterson should be, but isn't.

 

Bradley, IMO, is a better fit for Chicago, then Manny, and Hendry would have to be a fool to not go after Bradley.

 

Bradley dogging it in the OF was one of the big reasons Cleveland traded him.

[mhuber92211]

Where is the evidence that many teams would be all over Bradley if he was non tendered? IIRC when Cleveland traded him, there weren't that many takers.

 

The local channels out here have made Bradley public enemy #1. But they have also said that any new GM in LA's 1st priority is to resolve the issue. If the rumors are true about Bowden having interest, it wouldn't suprise me if LA keeps him. Bowden seems to like the edgy players and has had some sucess with them.

 

Regardless, Bradley is headed down the Terrell Owens road. Sure he hasn't been quite that dramtic but for as talented of a player he is, he is certainly wasting it. Bradley is not a player that I would like to see on any team I root for because it would be hard for me to root for the guy. Yes he has problems, but where is the evidence that he is controlling them or at least improving on them? How many chances does he get or should he get?

[nilodnayr]

Where is the evidence that many teams would be all over Bradley if he was non tendered? IIRC when Cleveland traded him, there weren't that many takers.

 

The local channels out here have made Bradley public enemy #1. But they have also said that any new GM in LA's 1st priority is to resolve the issue. If the rumors are true about Bowden having interest, it wouldn't suprise me if LA keeps him. Bowden seems to like the edgy players and has had some sucess with them.

 

Regardless, Bradley is headed down the Terrell Owens road. Sure he hasn't been quite that dramtic but for as talented of a player he is, he is certainly wasting it. Bradley is not a player that I would like to see on any team I root for because it would be hard for me to root for the guy. Yes he has problems, but where is the evidence that he is controlling them or at least improving on them? How many chances does he get or should he get?

If Bowden wants Bradley, I'd be more than happy to take Ryan Church off of his hands. No need for 3 CFs on their team.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Keep Bradley and give me Lofton. I have no reason to doubt he has another good year or two left. 130-140 games with Hairston filling in on occasion.

 

Career .299/.373. Not too shabby.

[nilodnayr]

Keep Bradley and give me Lofton. I have no reason to doubt he has another good year or two left. 130-140 games with Hairston filling in on occasion.

 

Career .299/.373. Not too shabby.

 

Theres your good reason.

 

1991-95: .343 BABIP

1992-96: .345 BABIP

1993-97: .361 BABIP

1994-98: .346 BABIP

1995-99: .342 BABIP

1996-00: .334 BABIP

1997-01: .320 BABIP

1998-02: .301 BABIP

1999-03: .301 BABIP

2000-04: .291 BABIP

2001-05: .302 BABIP

 

2005: .365 BABIP

[NorthsideAvenger]

There is zero chance of Bradley ending up here. The Cubs have no interest in acquiring people who will create more headlines off the field than creating headlines by their play. Once again, ZERO chance of him trying to rehab is anger problems here. Besides, I'd much rather have Manny if I wanted a "problem child" and so would the Cubs.

 

Bradley has "the spark." He can do it all....run, throw, hit, field, and flat out lay out, whereas Ramirez is a 1-D player. Granted the 1 dimension he does do well in, is amazing...gimme Bradley's "intensity" and the ability to play the game the right way...hard and fast...over Ramirez, who IS disinterested in playing most of the time. In some way...Bradley is what Patterson should be, but isn't.

 

Bradley, IMO, is a better fit for Chicago, then Manny, and Hendry would have to be a fool to not go after Bradley.

 

Bradley dogging it in the OF was one of the big reasons Cleveland traded him.

 

That and the fact that they had Crisp(the ex-Cardinal farmhand, mind you), Sizemore, Lawton, Gerut, Escobar, already in the organization, made his trade abit easier to handle. Granted Bradley is better then Crisp, Lawton, Escobar, and Gerut, but Bradley did fetch a darn good of PROSPECT IN Frnaklin Gutierrez, and a solid pitcher in Andrew Brown.

 

I fully believe Derrick Lee would be a calming influence on Milton Bradley. I'd still take a chance on Milton Bradley, b/c regardless of what you think, Bradley plays for the name on the front of the uniform, and not on the back.

[CuseCubFan69]

Bradley would be a good choice if the Cubs had a clue. That automatically disqualifies him as a Cub. Just look for the best "Free Swinger Available" and then you will have your CF.

[bc2k]

Incomprehensibly stupid on the Dodgers part if true. Please get Bradley, so we don't have to listen any more Lofton or Wilson rumors.

 

There's a reason five organizations rid themselves of Milton Bradley, and it's not because of his baseball ability.

 

Dumb move.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Incomprehensibly stupid on the Dodgers part if true. Please get Bradley, so we don't have to listen any more Lofton or Wilson rumors.

 

There's a reason five organizations rid themselves of Milton Bradley, and it's not because of his baseball ability.

 

Dumb move.

 

Five organizations? Montreal traded him because they were getting Zach Day, both were good prospects at that point. Cleveland traded him because they had Sizemore coming and he was arbitration eligible, in addition to his off field problems. Bradley's only been with 3 organizations, and this would be the only one to get rid of him for solely behavioral issues.

[bc2k]

Besides, has Bradley ever had a problem with teammates? Jose Guillen wasn't even allowed on the postseason roster last year because of some falling out, then he went to Washington and people raved about how good a guy he was.

 

He's had well-documented problems with Jeff Kent in LA.

 

Now, whether you think that falls on Bradley or Kent is another matter altogether...

I believe the story went, Bradley said to a reporter that Kent was being an a-hole and wasnt talking to the black players and was being discrimatory. Former teammate and seemingly good guy, Brad Ausmus, quipped "thats crazy, Kent hates all people the same" or something like that. Frankly, I wouldn't exactly call that a clubhouse problem. And in all honesty I think he handled the beer bottle (plasitc) situation about as well as you could hope him to. He could have easily chucked it back and tried to hit the guy or God forbid pull an Artest. IMO at least publicly hes improved his maturity with age.

 

Jeff Kent confronted Bradley for not scoring from first on Kent's double, IIRC. Bradley thought Kent only said that because Kent doesn't like African-Americans, while some teammates said Kent spoke up as a veteran who thought a younger guy was dogging it.

 

Whether Bradley was dogging it or Kent is a racist, or both, I don't want Bradley on the Cubs for other character reasons. Manager Jim Tracy tried to keep the issue in the clubhouse, telling Bradley and Kent not to comment on the issue publicly any more. Bradley blatantly refused his manager's request, and continued talking to the media about how he was a victim.

[bc2k]

Incomprehensibly stupid on the Dodgers part if true. Please get Bradley, so we don't have to listen any more Lofton or Wilson rumors.

 

There's a reason five organizations rid themselves of Milton Bradley, and it's not because of his baseball ability.

 

Dumb move.

 

Five organizations? Montreal traded him because they were getting Zach Day, both were good prospects at that point. Cleveland traded him because they had Sizemore coming and he was arbitration eligible, in addition to his off field problems. Bradley's only been with 3 organizations, and this would be the only one to get rid of him for solely behavioral issues.

 

The man has character issues. When you spend 9 months together, those flaws appear. While in Cleveland, Bradley was arrested and spent 3 days in jail for leading police on a high-speed chase after refusing to pull over for speeding:

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2004-12-15-legal-roundup_x.htm

 

What was his mindset? Pull over, take your speeding ticket which you deserve for going more than twice the posted limit, or hit the gas and flee from the police so you can spend 3 days in jail? He's not bright.