What's Going On In Boston?

[USSoccer]

Have you guys been keeping up with anything that's been going on in Boston since Theo Epstein left? It's as if RSN has turned on itself. You've had people on SOSH calling out Curt Shilling (who posts there) and questioning his knowledge of the situation. You also have most of RSN wanting Lucchino fired, and the owner won't get involved.

 

Can you imagine if this happened here? If a player posted here, would any of us call him out, even if he was opinionated? I know I got in a little spat with Ron Potesta a few weeks back, but it was a civil disagrement. Some of those posters are just being brutal.

 

I guess, my thing is that, with no GM, a team President that's clearly lost all credibility, and clubhouse unrest (with Varitek, Schilling, Timlin and Ortiz leading the players in questioning the Theo thing), how is Boston going to handle this winter?

[RockTheIvy]

Have you guys been keeping up with anything that's been going on in Boston since Theo Epstein left? It's as if RSN has turned on itself. You've had people on SOSH calling out Curt Shilling (who posts there) and questioning his knowledge of the situation. You also have most of RSN wanting Lucchino fired, and the owner won't get involved.

 

Can you imagine if this happened here? If a player posted here, would any of us call him out, even if he was opinionated? I know I got in a little spat with Ron Potesta a few weeks back, but it was a civil disagrement. Some of those posters are just being brutal.

 

I guess, my thing is that, with no GM, a team President that's clearly lost all credibility, and clubhouse unrest (with Varitek, Schilling, Timlin and Ortiz leading the players in questioning the Theo thing), how is Boston going to handle this winter?

 

I read SOSH a good amount too. I have to say, they have some of the most elitist and aloof posters around. Oftentimes they make very good points, but it is mostly a severe case of monday-morning quarterbacking. IMO, Epstein deserves the credit he gets for helping to sculpt the team that won the WS in 04. However, he gets by pretty easy (at least in the national media/mindset) for some deals that are rather suspect (Clement, Varitek for the next 3 years, Renteria, not resigning Pedro, even the Schilling contract to some extent).

 

I think "Lucky" is an idiot. He was largely responsible for the A-Rod snafu two years ago, and I think he was jealous of the attention that Epstein was getting.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Wow! Curt Schilling got in an arguement?!? I am so surprised that he would do that. :)

[Mark_R]

Damn Red Sox need their own soap opera on ABC.

[fearthecubs]

This is why I don't understand why aRod catches so much flak instead of someone like Schilling. I -loathe- Curt Schilling, easily my most disliked MLB player. Who would YOU rather go bowling with?

[NorthsideAvenger]

Damn Red Sox need their own soap opera on ABC.[/quote

 

 

No, might as well add their TWINS in New York and make a full hour, Hell, I have an idea....The Red Sox and the Yanks star in a new TV drama on ABC that will debut this fall and it is call "Lost............and Forgotten"

[Big Z]

Yankees - Red Sox is more boring than the last World Series.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Yankees - Red Sox is more boring than the last World Series.

 

If you were on ESPN, I would cry BLASPHEMY. Come on....how can you call the Yankees-Red Sox "boring?" Don't you know...ESPN puts ALL OF IT'S MONEY behind that "rivalry" and then forced that "rivalry" down everybody throats, and then sell that "rivalry" as being the best in sports? Ok, maybe overblown, (holds thumb and index finger an inch apart).

[Schwarber Fan]

Yankees - Red Sox is more boring than the last World Series.

 

Ok..... no

 

The last 2 world series have been the most boring series in a while. In fact, 2002 might have been the last good series (it was the last to have gm 7).

 

Yankees/Red Sox=not boring

[AcesHigh]

Yanks-Red Sox is so overblown its ridiculous. I'm all for rivalries, but I don't need to see every one of their games and have full analysis of it.

[UMFan83]

On a related note, I thought this article about a proposed Larry Bigbie for Kelly Stoppach trade that was agreed to and recinded was interesting.

 

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_83_4214580,00.html

[SouthSideRyan]

Anybody see the ridiculous Steve Phillips posing as GM of the Red Sox press conference yesterday?? And now he's going to do it for the Yankees today. It was quite possibly the worst television ever.

[dougdescenzo]

Anybody see the ridiculous Steve Phillips posing as GM of the Red Sox press conference yesterday?? And now he's going to do it for the Yankees today. It was quite possibly the worst television ever.

 

I was flipping through and caught it, wasn't paying that much attention because i was eating a delicious chickenburger, and called my friend who is a HUGE Red Sox fan because I thought they really hired him. He turned to it and instantly thought the same. Needless to say he owes his girlfriend a new lamp cover. true story

[UK1679666180]

I've been promoting Dayton Moore as the best GM candidate avail. for quite some time, he's been gaining some steam as far as possibly becoming the next GM in Boston. He'd be great choice in my opinion.

 

This is from the Boston Herald.

 

Moore brings a lot to the table

 

Atlanta assistant general manager Dayton Moore's candidacy for the Red Sox' position could be picking up speed after a very impressive interview last week, according to sources familiar with the interview.

 

Moore, 38, said he's declined opportunities to interview for GM jobs the past two years, but felt the Boston job was ''very special."

 

He seems to have the right mix of what the Sox are seeking -- someone who has coached and managed the game as well as scouted. One thing that came up at the interview was the use of statistical data.

 

''We use statistics to support our evaluations of a player or we use statistics as a reason to go out and look at a player," Moore said. ''We certainly use stats; I'm not sure what the Red Sox use or whether they have any double-secret stuff. But we certainly want to build our teams on a lineup that gets on base and scores runs and hits for power.

 

''For us, chemistry in the front office and chemistry in our clubhouse is very important."

 

Moore, a Wichita, Kan., native, has no ties to Boston. He has hesitated to leave Atlanta because of the superb farm system he helped build there.

 

''We had a lot of kids come up this year and we have more coming," he said. ''We're not done.

 

''My philosophy is you should have three or four kids a year competing with your 25-man roster every season. If you don't have that, I think you're going to run into trouble as an organization."

[OnTheBeach]

For a more level headed discussion of the Red Sox, try redsoxnation.net. While the uproar was predictable, most sensible fans see this period as one of transition after which the Red Sox will get a new GM and still have one of the highest payrolls in baseball.[/url]

[UK1679666180]

http://www.ecnnews.com/cgi-bin/05/ntstory.pl?-sec-Sports+fn-nsoxgm.1116-20051116-+page_0

 

Moore takes his name out of consideration for Boston's GM position.

[E.J.]

What the heck is boston doing? From Rotoworld:

 

David Ortiz - DH - Red Sox

 

 

The Red Sox announced today that both Jim Bowden and Jim Beattie would receive second interviews for the club's general manager's position.

Beattie revealed yesterday that he was being asked back. The Red Sox also have a couple of undisclosed candidates that they're expected to interview. Nov. 17 - 9:34 pm et

 

Going from Epstein to Bowden???

[sethuel1]

According to the Globe red sox site, Jim Hendry is an option as their new GM.

[E.J.]

According to the Globe red sox site, Jim Hendry is an option as their new GM.

 

Epstein interested in the Cubs? Hendry an option for the Red Sox? How about they just switch places from last year? :D

[erik316wttn]

According to the Globe red sox site, Jim Hendry is an option as their new GM.

 

They can have him.

[jaxxradio]

USSoccer.. we had a disagreement and yet we are still civil to each other. That's the difference between being a Cubs fan and a fan of the Red Sox. The people up in Boston take this WAY to serious.

 

As for Schilling, he can be abrasive and very opinionated. That's why I like the guy. He is genuine, what you see is what you get. Schilling wears his heart on his sleeve and there ain't anything wrong with that.

[waffle]

I don't see how anyone can say the yanks/sox rivalry is overblown. I have family on both sides, going back generations, and they sure don't consider it overblown. It's real to them.

 

That rivalry goes back generations and is very intense. They really do hate one another, the teams and the towns.

[goonys evil twin]

I don't see how anyone can say the yanks/sox rivalry is overblown. I have family on both sides, going back generations, and they sure don't consider it overblown. It's real to them.

 

That rivalry goes back generations and is very intense. They really do hate one another, the teams and the towns.

 

That's part of what makes it overblown. If you hate a person because he cheers on another team, you need help.

 

The other part is how much it's shoved down the throat of the national audience.

[Derwood]

I don't see how anyone can say the yanks/sox rivalry is overblown. I have family on both sides, going back generations, and they sure don't consider it overblown. It's real to them.

 

That rivalry goes back generations and is very intense. They really do hate one another, the teams and the towns.

 

If you hate a person because he cheers on another team, you need help.

 

Cue JR

[USSoccer]

USSoccer.. we had a disagreement and yet we are still civil to each other. That's the difference between being a Cubs fan and a fan of the Red Sox. The people up in Boston take this WAY to serious.

 

As for Schilling, he can be abrasive and very opinionated. That's why I like the guy. He is genuine, what you see is what you get. Schilling wears his heart on his sleeve and there ain't anything wrong with that.

 

Hey Ron, good to see you on again!

 

I think Boston in general has a real inferiority complex to NY. It probably goes back to the start of the country, in some ways, and it just gets vented in the form of baseball. It's kinda interesting in a way, but I think the national media take it and run a little too far sometimes.

 

However, I can't say that Cub fans wouldn't be up in arms if we had a team President as inflammatory as Lucchino, and a GM that left as a possible result of a power struggle within the organization like that. I think we would be, but I doubt anyone would call out a player that posts on a message board they way they did to Schilling.