Cubs, Neifi Perez agree on 2-year contract

[Backtobanks]

i think it's time to start hoping that the cubs offseason is so comically bad that we can enjoy it perversely, since we sure aren't going to have much fun watching things transpire on a conventional level.

 

Obviously not, since we are so far into the offseason and so many teams have made moves and Hendry is just screwing up left and right. :roll:

 

Seems to me that are always going to be some people hoping for a bad offseason because they seem to get more enjoyment from ripping mistakes (real or perceived) by Hendry, Baker, etc. than they get when the team is succesful.

 

First, let's wait to see if re-signing Perez actually happens before we use it as an arguement against Hendry. As for all of the moves that Hendry has screwed up, I agree with re-signing Rusch and Walker. I think that we need to wait until Hendry puts together the whole team before we can judge whether he had a successful offseason. For example, people will jump all over him if he doesn't sign Giles, but a month later trades for Abreau or Dunn and becomes a hero. Let's give him a chance to work on plan A, or plan B if plan A doesn't work out before we criticize him.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Bruce? Bruce......if you are watching this board, plz advice Hendry not to give Nefti a 2 yr deal. 1 yr deal is tolerable, but not two.

[CuseCubFan69]

Bruce? Bruce......if you are watching this board, plz advice Hendry not to give Nefti a 2 yr deal. 1 yr deal is tolerable, but not two.

 

Would you take 2 years of Perez if it meant no years of Macias? Talk about selling your soul to the devil.

[NewUserName]

plz no niefi period. absolutely no need for him. If he was used properly I wouldnt mind, but since Dusty has proven he will not use him properly it would be a grave mistake to bring him back

[frostwyrm]

This is an organization that thought Todd Hollandsworth was an adequate starting LF, so it won't surprise one bit if it also thinks Neifi is an adquate starting 2B.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

i think it's time to start hoping that the cubs offseason is so comically bad that we can enjoy it perversely, since we sure aren't going to have much fun watching things transpire on a conventional level.

 

Obviously not, since we are so far into the offseason and so many teams have made moves and Hendry is just screwing up left and right. :roll:

 

Seems to me that are always going to be some people hoping for a bad offseason because they seem to get more enjoyment from ripping mistakes (real or perceived) by Hendry, Baker, etc. than they get when the team is succesful.

Well..so far he screwed up to the left with the Rusch resigning. According to this article he is working on screwing up to the right as well. Wait to see what happens when he gives Macias a 3 year contract with an option. :(

 

Btw, would you actually like this move? That's what this post seems to be implying.

[USSoccer]

Bruce? Bruce......if you are watching this board, plz advice Hendry not to give Nefti a 2 yr deal. 1 yr deal is tolerable, but not two.

 

Would you take 2 years of Perez if it meant no years of Macias? Talk about selling your soul to the devil.

 

No. I wouldn't do that. At least Macias doesn't block anyone.

[USSoccer]

i think it's time to start hoping that the cubs offseason is so comically bad that we can enjoy it perversely, since we sure aren't going to have much fun watching things transpire on a conventional level.

 

Obviously not, since we are so far into the offseason and so many teams have made moves and Hendry is just screwing up left and right. :roll:

 

Seems to me that are always going to be some people hoping for a bad offseason because they seem to get more enjoyment from ripping mistakes (real or perceived) by Hendry, Baker, etc. than they get when the team is succesful.

 

Trouble is, with moves like this, we aren't likely to be successful.

[Omar]

I hope you really do mean resign instead of re-sign.

[CuseCubFan69]

Bruce? Bruce......if you are watching this board, plz advice Hendry not to give Nefti a 2 yr deal. 1 yr deal is tolerable, but not two.

 

Would you take 2 years of Perez if it meant no years of Macias? Talk about selling your soul to the devil.

 

No. I wouldn't do that. At least Macias doesn't block anyone.

 

Except that he (Macias) is Bakers #1 option off the bench and we all know that is where young players go to learn under the Baker system. These two players are a lose lose situation IMO with Baker at the helm.

[RockTheIvy]

I long for Alex S. Gonzalez.

[USSoccer]

Bruce? Bruce......if you are watching this board, plz advice Hendry not to give Nefti a 2 yr deal. 1 yr deal is tolerable, but not two.

 

Would you take 2 years of Perez if it meant no years of Macias? Talk about selling your soul to the devil.

 

No. I wouldn't do that. At least Macias doesn't block anyone.

 

Except that he (Macias) is Bakers #1 option off the bench and we all know that is where young players go to learn under the Baker system. These two players are a lose lose situation IMO with Baker at the helm.

 

I agree, but in Macias' case it's the lesser of two evils. Macias can do less harm than Neifi can. Baker sees Neifi as an everyday player who "saved" us. Macias as a bench player only does so much harm.

[USSoccer]

I long for Alex S. Gonzalez.

 

It's funny how Neifi can make you long for AGonz. Heck, I'd rather have Alex on the bench than Neifi. At least Alex has power.

[RockTheIvy]

I long for Alex S. Gonzalez.

 

It's funny how Neifi can make you long for AGonz. Heck, I'd rather have Alex on the bench than Neifi. At least Alex has power.

 

I think it also shows just how bad Neifi! is. When you would rather see KGonz on the bench. If the Cubs signed Neifi! to the league minimum, and used him in late inning situations, for his defense (like the Red Sox did with Pokey Reese) I wouldn't have a problem. But Dusty will use him every other day, bat him second and significantly hurt our chances. I don't have the numbers nearby, but does anyone know if Neifi! is even that good of a fielder anymore?

 

My problem with Hendry, is that, as you have said, is that he loves to overpay for mediocrity. After a while though, they add up, so 3 million for Rusch here, another 2 for Neifi! there, all of a sudden you've spent a lot of money on garbage.

[Balsa]

As much as I'd hate to see Neifi back on the team, a couple of things have got to be addressed here.

 

First, his defense was some of the best in the league. So knock him all you want for lack of power, not taking walks, whatever, but his defense was pretty good.

 

Second, this is a rumor of a rumor. This yokel is saying that they are "talking" about it, and this is from the same guy saying the Royals might sign Furcal? The Royals?

[USSoccer]

As much as I'd hate to see Neifi back on the team, a couple of things have got to be addressed here.

 

First, his defense was some of the best in the league. So knock him all you want for lack of power, not taking walks, whatever, but his defense was pretty good.

Second, this is a rumor of a rumor. This yokel is saying that they are "talking" about it, and this is from the same guy saying the Royals might sign Furcal? The Royals?

 

I agree with your rumor of a rumor thing, but Neifi's defense wasn't all that good. He cost us at least 2 games because of 2 error innings.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

As much as I'd hate to see Neifi back on the team, a couple of things have got to be addressed here.

 

First, his defense was some of the best in the league. So knock him all you want for lack of power, not taking walks, whatever, but his defense was pretty good.

 

Second, this is a rumor of a rumor. This yokel is saying that they are "talking" about it, and this is from the same guy saying the Royals might sign Furcal? The Royals?

 

He was solid defensively, but he killed us offensively, especially batting in front of Lee and Ramirez. CPat was good defensively too.

 

As far as discounting this rumor b/c of the KC statement...all he did was say KC was going to make a run at a prime FA b/c they have some free cash, but weren't likely to land anyone b/c who in their right mind wants to play for a crappy team. there's nothing to scoff at there. he didn't say KC "might sign Furcal."

[Backtobanks]

Which goes to show that at this time of the year, everything is in the rumor stage. Any team that needs a SS is a possible Furcal suitor, any team that needs pitching is a Burnett suitor, etc. I look forward to the winter meetings in December to get a better feel for what's going on with whom.

[TXCubsFan]

Though I worry about having Neifi! available for Dusty to misuse, I understand Hendry's logic in considering a two-year contract. Imagine the following lineup and starting staff for Opening Day 2006:

 

Cedeno - 2B

Bradley - CF

Lee - 1B

Giles - RF

Ramirez - 3B

Murton - LF

Barrett - C

Neifi! - SS

 

Zambrano

Wood

Prior

Maddux

Lowe / Millwood

 

A very competitive lineup, with an opportunity for E-Patt to develop into a starter by 2008, sliding Cedeno to SS. So by having Neifi!, he's hedged at SS this offseason.

[RynoRules]

As much as I'd hate to see Neifi back on the team, a couple of things have got to be addressed here.

 

First, his defense was some of the best in the league. So knock him all you want for lack of power, not taking walks, whatever, but his defense was pretty good.

Second, this is a rumor of a rumor. This yokel is saying that they are "talking" about it, and this is from the same guy saying the Royals might sign Furcal? The Royals?

 

I agree with your rumor of a rumor thing, but Neifi's defense wasn't all that good. He cost us at least 2 games because of 2 error innings.

 

Might want to check a thread I just posted in the Baseball forum and decide if you wish to retract that one.

[USSoccer]

As much as I'd hate to see Neifi back on the team, a couple of things have got to be addressed here.

 

First, his defense was some of the best in the league. So knock him all you want for lack of power, not taking walks, whatever, but his defense was pretty good.

Second, this is a rumor of a rumor. This yokel is saying that they are "talking" about it, and this is from the same guy saying the Royals might sign Furcal? The Royals?

 

I agree with your rumor of a rumor thing, but Neifi's defense wasn't all that good. He cost us at least 2 games because of 2 error innings.

 

Might want to check a thread I just posted in the Baseball forum and decide if you wish to retract that one.

 

I'm going to be stubborn and stick by it. Because I dislike Perez THAT much. :P

 

 

*edit*-i know he's generally sure handed. I still don't like him and don't want him anywhere near Wrigley unless he's an usher.

[Illini Iceman]

i think it's time to start hoping that the cubs offseason is so comically bad that we can enjoy it perversely, since we sure aren't going to have much fun watching things transpire on a conventional level.

 

Obviously not, since we are so far into the offseason and so many teams have made moves and Hendry is just screwing up left and right. :roll:

 

Seems to me that are always going to be some people hoping for a bad offseason because they seem to get more enjoyment from ripping mistakes (real or perceived) by Hendry, Baker, etc. than they get when the team is succesful.

Well..so far he screwed up to the left with the Rusch resigning. According to this article he is working on screwing up to the right as well. Wait to see what happens when he gives Macias a 3 year contract with an option. :(

 

Btw, would you actually like this move? That's what this post seems to be implying.

 

I think Rusch has been a useful arm for the Cubs the last couple season and that when all is said and done with FA signings around the majors the $3M will look like a reasonable deal. Therefore, I don't agree with your statement that he has "screwed up to the left with the Rusch re-signing".

I don't see Neifi signed yet of for how much so I am not going to criticize him for a move he has not made. If he does sign him and plans for him to be the starting SS or 2B then I will heartily agree that it is a bad move. However, before I get on his case I need to see the whole offseason body of work and not just make knee jerk reactions to rumors from a dubious source.

[erik316wttn]

And we were worried Cedeno's offense might be substandard for 2B. We KNOW Neifi's is.

 

And if that's the case Cedeno will have a rather impressive collection of butt splinters, because he's not going to get much playing time at all with Dusty's boy manning 2nd.

[erik316wttn]

I long for Alex S. Gonzalez.

 

Pfft. Not me. He can take his .220 average and his double play ball dropping, Game 6 costing ass and stay the hell away.

[RockTheIvy]

I long for Alex S. Gonzalez.

 

Pfft. Not me. He can take his .220 average and his double play ball dropping, Game 6 costing ass and stay the hell away.

 

Aww c'mon man. The homers were nice, eh? :lol: