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There have been many reports recently saying that the Cubs want more pitching. Hendry was on the score and said that even with Rusch and Williams he is still going to be looking for more starting pitching. Could this be a revelation that he might be shopping the injury prone Wood? I know that you can never have enough pitching but the way Hendry sounded he could looking to move Wood.

 

Would you trade Wood for someone like Adam Dunn(unlikely because they are in the same division) Torii Hunter, Vernon Wells, or maybe even someone like Ichiro?

 

I know this is a little far stretched but I don't think I would have a problem with it as long as we picked up someone like Millwood, Byrd, or Weaver.

 

I dont want Burnett he is just like Wood limitless potential but injury prone and stubborn.

 

What do you guys think?

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Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing him dealt. Deal him to either the Yankees, Red Sox or Texas. He may waive his no-trade clause to join a World Series contender or go home to Texas. All 3 teams would probably give up decent talent to get him even though Wood's injury prone. All 3 need pitching help.
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So, you think the interpretation of "Hendry could be looking for more starting pitching" is "Hendry could be shopping one of his starting pitchers for a bat"? That seems counterintuitive.

 

:lol: :lol:

 

BTW.. Can I be the first?

 

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So, you think the interpretation of "Hendry could be looking for more starting pitching" is "Hendry could be shopping one of his starting pitchers for a bat"? That seems counterintuitive.

 

:lol: :lol:

 

BTW.. Can I be the first?

 

NO TRADE CLAUSE

NO TRADE CLAUSE

NO TRADE CLAUSE

NO TRADE CLAUSE

NO TRADE CLAUSE

NO TRADE CLAUSE

NO TRADE CLAUSE

NO TRADE CLAUSE

NO TRADE CLAUSE

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NO TRADE CLAUSE!!!!!1111one1!

 

Beat me to it....though I may not have repeated it quite so much...heh

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Nobody is going to give even half-value in trade for Wood until they see him pitch in spring training.

 

By then, everyone's budget will be spent.

 

Wood will be a Cub in 2006.

 

And I'm glad.

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There have been many reports recently saying that the Cubs want more pitching. Hendry was on the score and said that even with Rusch and Williams he is still going to be looking for more starting pitching. Could this be a revelation that he might be shopping the injury prone Wood? I know that you can never have enough pitching but the way Hendry sounded he could looking to move Wood.

 

Would you trade Wood for someone like Adam Dunn(unlikely because they are in the same division) Torii Hunter, Vernon Wells, or maybe even someone like Ichiro?

 

I know this is a little far stretched but I don't think I would have a problem with it as long as we picked up someone like Millwood, Byrd, or Weaver.

 

I dont want Burnett he is just like Wood limitless potential but injury prone and stubborn.

 

What do you guys think?

 

Would you trade Adam Dunn for Kerry Wood? Would you trade Ichiro for Kerry Wood?

 

Not only is Wood not cheap, but he's injury prone as well. I would laugh at the team that called and asked if we would take Kerry Wood for Adam Dunn. Wood costs more money, will likely be a free agent sooner and is a question mark regarding health. Now, if you want to discuss Prior or Zambrano, I'd be all ears.

 

Trading a guy like Wood when his value is its lowest is not a good idea. You won't get what you are expecting in return. Why would a team offer up a good player like that for an injury risk?

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The problem with trading Wood is he is only attractive to a team that thinks they are one starter away from contending. He's no longer cheap and his option for 2007 at 14+ million makes it unlikely that he'd be more than a one year acquisition. With his health a question at least until teams see him throw in spring training, even if he were to waive his no-trade clause, you'd have a difficult time finding a taker. At best, you might get a contender to trade you a contract they want to unload or a player who is also in the last year of a deal. That limits the teams that you're dealing with right there.

 

Everyone mentions Texas, but they are hardly an ideal destination. The Rangers are trying to build around a young core of players. Unless they think Wood is the difference maker, they are unlikely to want to offer much to get a player who will not be around or affordable when they are contenders. They certainly wouldn't trade from that core (Texeira, Blaylock, Young) to get someone who only gives them one year. If you dangled Zambrano to them, that might get their attention; Wood will not.

 

The fact remains, Wood is still likely more valuable to the Cubs than the pieces he'd bring in a trade. If he's healthy (and I acknowledge that's a big if), he's a dominant top of the rotation starter. To trade him you would want a significant bat (Tex, Sheffield, Manny, Beltran, A. Jones, etc), and I don't see any way one of those comes here in a deal withou the Cubs adding significant other talent to the package.

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The problem with trading Wood is he is only attractive to a team that thinks they are one starter away from contending. He's no longer cheap and his option for 2007 at 14+ million makes it unlikely that he'd be more than a one year acquisition. With his health a question at least until teams see him throw in spring training, even if he were to waive his no-trade clause, you'd have a difficult time finding a taker. At best, you might get a contender to trade you a contract they want to unload or a player who is also in the last year of a deal. That limits the teams that you're dealing with right there.

 

Everyone mentions Texas, but they are hardly an ideal destination. The Rangers are trying to build around a young core of players. Unless they think Wood is the difference maker, they are unlikely to want to offer much to get a player who will not be around or affordable when they are contenders. They certainly wouldn't trade from that core (Texeira, Blaylock, Young) to get someone who only gives them one year. If you dangled Zambrano to them, that might get their attention; Wood will not.

 

The fact remains, Wood is still likely more valuable to the Cubs than the pieces he'd bring in a trade. If he's healthy (and I acknowledge that's a big if), he's a dominant top of the rotation starter. To trade him you would want a significant bat (Tex, Sheffield, Manny, Beltran, A. Jones, etc), and I don't see any way one of those comes here in a deal withou the Cubs adding significant other talent to the package.

 

but would they drop soriano? I don't think he'll be traded and I wouldn't trade for him but could you see a deal sending wood to tex for soriano, then moving walker...

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The problem with trading Wood is he is only attractive to a team that thinks they are one starter away from contending. He's no longer cheap and his option for 2007 at 14+ million makes it unlikely that he'd be more than a one year acquisition. With his health a question at least until teams see him throw in spring training, even if he were to waive his no-trade clause, you'd have a difficult time finding a taker. At best, you might get a contender to trade you a contract they want to unload or a player who is also in the last year of a deal. That limits the teams that you're dealing with right there.

 

Everyone mentions Texas, but they are hardly an ideal destination. The Rangers are trying to build around a young core of players. Unless they think Wood is the difference maker, they are unlikely to want to offer much to get a player who will not be around or affordable when they are contenders. They certainly wouldn't trade from that core (Texeira, Blaylock, Young) to get someone who only gives them one year. If you dangled Zambrano to them, that might get their attention; Wood will not.

 

The fact remains, Wood is still likely more valuable to the Cubs than the pieces he'd bring in a trade. If he's healthy (and I acknowledge that's a big if), he's a dominant top of the rotation starter. To trade him you would want a significant bat (Tex, Sheffield, Manny, Beltran, A. Jones, etc), and I don't see any way one of those comes here in a deal withou the Cubs adding significant other talent to the package.

 

but would they drop soriano? I don't think he'll be traded and I wouldn't trade for him but could you see a deal sending wood to tex for soriano, then moving walker...

 

They might would do that, but I still doubt anyone trade for Wood until they see him throw, which means no deal will happen until spring training. If the Cubs have stockpiled enough pitching and still look to be a bad short, then surely trading Wood may be an option. On the other hand, it may be more appealing then to keep a healthy Wood around. I'm also not sold on acquiring Soriano as he's not really any better than Walker. Unless you could really move Walker for something of value, that doesn't help the team at all.

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i would trade wood for 2 dozen baseballs right now. i do like him. if healthy he could be a cy young candidate. the problem is he is notcheap and he is a huge question mark. his salary and question marks are a huge stumbling block for next season. we could certainly use his 12 mil to sign someone who is more consistent.

if we keep wood and do not sign another stud pitcher then we are potentially looking at a rotation of z,prior,maddux,rusch and williams(with a wood injury).

not terrible but we would need serious offensive and defensive upgrades to be a world series team. we would also need bullpen upgrading because you are looking hard at 3 starters that won't go deep.

if we keep wood, do we have enough cash(will we spend it) to fill all our offensive holes. to me, in order to be a world series team we need a lead off man, a power guy and 2 good hitters to fill out lf,cf,rf and ss. murton could be one but then we would need a serious pounder for our other corner. we will certainly not be able to gamble on cedeno,patterson,murton and nomar(1 of them tops) . if we do, we will be looking hard at last place in the central.

we could cross our fingers and hope everything works out for us but personally i am tired of that. it's time to win.....

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There have been many reports recently saying that the Cubs want more pitching. Hendry was on the score and said that even with Rusch and Williams he is still going to be looking for more starting pitching. Could this be a revelation that he might be shopping the injury prone Wood? I know that you can never have enough pitching but the way Hendry sounded he could looking to move Wood.

 

Would you trade Wood for someone like Adam Dunn(unlikely because they are in the same division) Torii Hunter, Vernon Wells, or maybe even someone like Ichiro?

 

I know this is a little far stretched but I don't think I would have a problem with it as long as we picked up someone like Millwood, Byrd, or Weaver.

 

I dont want Burnett he is just like Wood limitless potential but injury prone and stubborn.

 

What do you guys think?

 

If the Cubs as a team are not doing well in July, but Wood specifically is on individual numbers, it wouldn't surprise me to see Hendry approach Wood on a trade. The Cubs are probably not going to pick up Wood's $13.5M option in '07, so instead of running the risk of letting him walk for nothing, they may try to shop him, and Wood might be willing to waive his clause if the trading team picks up his option.

 

While I'm not "in the know" I doubt very much that Wood is being shopped this offseason.

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He can waive his no trade clause

He can waive his no trade clause

He can waive his no trade clause

 

There. That said, he probably wouldn't, unless the destnation were AZ or TX, and even then I do not think its likely. If he did, I think he's a tradeable commodity b/c his contract has only one more guaranteed year (albeit at a high price), but there are plenty of teams who would pay it if (big if) he were healthy, IMO.

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There have been many reports recently saying that the Cubs want more pitching. Hendry was on the score and said that even with Rusch and Williams he is still going to be looking for more starting pitching. Could this be a revelation that he might be shopping the injury prone Wood? I know that you can never have enough pitching but the way Hendry sounded he could looking to move Wood.

 

Would you trade Wood for someone like Adam Dunn(unlikely because they are in the same division) Torii Hunter, Vernon Wells, or maybe even someone like Ichiro?

 

I know this is a little far stretched but I don't think I would have a problem with it as long as we picked up someone like Millwood, Byrd, or Weaver.

 

I dont want Burnett he is just like Wood limitless potential but injury prone and stubborn.

 

What do you guys think?

 

If the Cubs as a team are not doing well in July, but Wood specifically is on individual numbers, it wouldn't surprise me to see Hendry approach Wood on a trade. The Cubs are probably not going to pick up Wood's $13.5M option in '07, so instead of running the risk of letting him walk for nothing, they may try to shop him, and Wood might be willing to waive his clause if the trading team picks up his option.

 

While I'm not "in the know" I doubt very much that Wood is being shopped this offseason.

 

Agreed [/points to his earlier post above]

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He can waive his no trade clause

He can waive his no trade clause

He can waive his no trade clause

 

There. That said, he probably wouldn't, unless the destnation were AZ or TX, and even then I do not think its likely. If he did, I think he's a tradeable commodity b/c his contract has only one more guaranteed year (albeit at a high price), but there are plenty of teams who would pay it if (big if) he were healthy, IMO.

 

If he's healthy, he's more valuable to keep than trade. That's the rub. It's difficult to trade him until he proves he's healthy, but if he proves he's healthy, it would be crazy to trade him unless we're out of the race in July.

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If he did, I think he's a tradeable commodity b/c his contract has only one more guaranteed year (albeit at a high price), but there are plenty of teams who would pay it if (big if) he were healthy, IMO.

There's often a contract extension involved when a player agrees to waive a no-trade clause.

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If he did, I think he's a tradeable commodity b/c his contract has only one more guaranteed year (albeit at a high price), but there are plenty of teams who would pay it if (big if) he were healthy, IMO.

There's often a contract extension involved when a player agrees to waive a no-trade clause.

 

In Wood's case, he'd probably just ask that the 14 million dollar option becomes guaranteed.

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If he did, I think he's a tradeable commodity b/c his contract has only one more guaranteed year (albeit at a high price), but there are plenty of teams who would pay it if (big if) he were healthy, IMO.

There's often a contract extension involved when a player agrees to waive a no-trade clause.

 

In Wood's case, he'd probably just ask that the 14 million dollar option becomes guaranteed.

Perhaps. My point was regarding Wood being a trade-able commodity. Tacking on another year at $14M probably makes him less so.

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The chance of Kerry Wood being traded for Alfonso Soriano is exactly zero.

 

And honestly, I wouldn't trade Mike freakin' Wuertz for Alfonso Soriano. Soriano sucks (for reasons that have already been documented on this website which I will not take the time to rehash).

 

Wood's trade value is probably at the lowest it has ever been. I, for one, still think he has some mileage in left in his arm and am still optimistic that he can be effective. If you are going to trade him, at least wait until he gets back on track and his trade value rises commensurably (at which point any suggestion of a trade will probably met with howls of protest).

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Between his no-trade contract, his fragile health, and his huge contract, no GM is going to trade for Wood, let alone give you someone like Ichiro or Dunn. If Wood was a free agent with his history of health problems and a desire for a big contract, someone might take a chance. To give up a star player and deal with all of the other stuff would be suicidal for any GM.

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