ALCS: White Sox Defeat Angels 4-1

[Chris]

But his bio said that he's a "Die-Hard Cubs fan"

[Marco4]

But his bio said that he's a "Die-Hard Cubs fan"

 

But what did his agent say?

[Marco4]

Edit - Double Post

[RationalSoxFan]

This is ridiculous. Cheer on your cheaters, Sox fans. Why don't they just go the whole hog and cork their bats and inject steroids before Game 3

 

How did they cheat? They got the benefit of a bad call. Last time I checked that's hardly cheating.

[Wild_Cubs04]

This is ridiculous. Cheer on your cheaters, Sox fans. Why don't they just go the whole hog and cork their bats and inject steroids before Game 3

 

How did they cheat? They got the benefit of a bad call. Last time I checked that's hardly cheating.

 

Exactly, can't seem to understand how one would call the Sox cheaters in that situation. Not like AJ juked the ump into the call. If you are gonna be P.O'ed at anyone, be ticked at the umps. I give credit to AJ for running it out.

[Chris]

<----------------loves the 1* :lol:

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think it would be funny if immediately upon entering LA County, Eddings is arrested on a bogus charge and subjected to a full body caviyt search because someone suspects him of smuggliung drugs or something. I believe that would be fitting.

[EricG]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

 

http://mlb.com/images/2005/10/12/oi7BlUW4.jpg

 

wtg Cusack, that hat looks pretty new.

 

You have to be kidding me.

 

Hooray for bandwagons!!!

wasn't he in the movie about the Black Sox scandal Eight Men Out

[J.R.]

He's just one of those misguided Chicagoans that think you should pull together and root for the city to have a championship.

 

No, he's one of those misguided Cub fans deluded into thinking that a White Sox title could be good for anyone other than the White Sox themselves.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

To be the biggest issue is the lack of clarity in Eddings call. It appears to almost everyone that the raised fist is the "out" call.

 

The general rule for umpiring is that calls should be clear enough so that the players know what has been called and what has not been called. If he signals "out" the batter should be "out." His strike three call should not be one that can be confused with "out." If there's a strike-three that results in a call other than "out" as this one did, then he should make a motion that is different from the "strike three" that results in an "out."

 

In truth, the way an umpire makes his call should be uniform from umpire to umpire, but MLB is too ignorant to understand this concept.

[Andy]

This is ridiculous. Cheer on your cheaters, Sox fans. Why don't they just go the whole hog and cork their bats and inject steroids before Game 3

 

How did they cheat? They got the benefit of a bad call. Last time I checked that's hardly cheating.

I'm of the opinion that Classless One knew he was out but decided to throw caution to the wind and take off for first base anyway hoping that confusion would ensue and he would be awarded the base --which, of course, happened. His postgame smart aleck comments about luck pushed me further to that opinion.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

According to this poll, it seems that most of the sports watching public agrees with how heinous this call is.

 

2) How did you interpret umpire Doug Eddings' gestures after the pitch?

 

 

72.9% Batter was out

 

21.4% Pitch was a strike

 

5.7% Ball was still live

 

 

How does this call rate among questionable calls in postseason plays?

 

 

52.9% One of the 10 worst

 

22.9% Bad but not historic

 

13.7% The worst of all time

 

10.4% I thought he called it correctly

 

Eddings should be disciplined, but we all know that won't happen. I also find it funny that Guillen doesn't want to watch any replays. God forbid if the truth were known.

[Chris]

 

Eddings should be disciplined, but we all know that won't happen. I also find it funny that Guillen doesn't want to watch any replays. God forbid if the truth were known.

 

He said he'd rather be lucky anyways

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I think Eddings will be suspended - to protect him in Southern California. I wonder what the reaction would be if Angels fans saw him land at Ontario International Airport?

[erik316wttn]

I was listening to the Score earlier today for like 15 minutes or so in the car. They had fans on that basically said "well, bad calls are a part of every sport at every level."

 

True. But that does not mean a bad call should stand when it is found to be a bad call. For the life of me I'll never figure out how people can be against replay in any sport, especially in a big game like this, to make sure the correct call is made and a team isn't robbed of a victory.

 

Not saying the Angels would have won, but at least they wouldn't have lost because of a BS call.

 

And I also find it amusing that the people on the good end of a bad call always say "Oh, well that's part of the game, blah blah blah." I just wonder how loud White Sox fans would be complaining if that play happened when the Angels were at bat.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

On a different note:

 

Before games, White Sox Manager Ozzie Guillen spends nearly as much time with the opposing players as his own, a habit that would irritate baseball's anti-fraternization types if Guillen weren't so charming. During introductions before Game 1 of the ALCS, Guillen gestured pointedly at Guerrero just as he had at Boston Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez a week before.

 

Later in the eigth inning, Guerrero was coming to the plate when Guillen went to remind starter Jose Contreras not to throw Guerrero anything good to hit. He threw a wad of gum at Guerrero on his way to the mound, which Guerrero nudged to the grass with his bat, and another piece at Guerrerp on his way from the mound.

 

"Yeah," Guillen said Wednesday. "I tried to hit him."

 

What a jerk.

[goonys evil twin]

I hate the "bad calls are part of the game" theory.

 

They shouldn't be. They don't have to be. If these guys were any good they wouldn't be.

[erik316wttn]

I hate the "bad calls are part of the game" theory.

 

They shouldn't be. They don't have to be. If these guys were any good they wouldn't be.

 

I understand that umpires make mistakes. Especially on those bang-bang plays where a runner could be out by a half a step, I can understand an umpire getting one of those wrong on occasion. To err is human.

 

But the call last night was one of the worst I've seen ever. The only worse call I can remember seeing is of that blown call at 1B in the 1985 World Series.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

<----------------loves the 1* :lol:

 

Thanks! It was Slugger_16's idea.

[sethuel1]

I think Eddings will be suspended - to protect him in Southern California. I wonder what the reaction would be if Angels fans saw him land at Ontario International Airport?

 

Isn't John Wayne/Santa Ana closer?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I think Eddings will be suspended - to protect him in Southern California. I wonder what the reaction would be if Angels fans saw him land at Ontario International Airport?

 

Isn't John Wayne/Santa Ana closer?

 

Most teams fly in to Ontario and fly out of John Wayne. Don't ask me why. John Wayne is much closer. I also wouldn't fancy driving from Ontario to Anaheim - the 91 is evil and always jam packed with traffic.

[sethuel1]

I think Eddings will be suspended - to protect him in Southern California. I wonder what the reaction would be if Angels fans saw him land at Ontario International Airport?

 

Isn't John Wayne/Santa Ana closer?

 

Most teams fly in to Ontario and fly out of John Wayne. Don't ask me why. John Wayne is much closer. I also wouldn't fancy driving from Ontario to Anaheim - the 91 is evil and always jam packed with traffic.

 

That is supremely stupid. So not only do they get caught in traffic driving in from Ontario, but then the plane has to fly empty from Ontario to John Wayne?

 

Wow is that dumb.

[Priorknowledge]

What a jerk.

 

Oh grow a sense of humor man. Guillen coached Vlad in Montreal and the two remain on good terms. It was a joke.

[J.R.]

On a different note:

 

Before games, White Sox Manager Ozzie Guillen spends nearly as much time with the opposing players as his own, a habit that would irritate baseball's anti-fraternization types if Guillen weren't so charming. During introductions before Game 1 of the ALCS, Guillen gestured pointedly at Guerrero just as he had at Boston Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez a week before.

 

Later in the eigth inning, Guerrero was coming to the plate when Guillen went to remind starter Jose Contreras not to throw Guerrero anything good to hit. He threw a wad of gum at Guerrero on his way to the mound, which Guerrero nudged to the grass with his bat, and another piece at Guerrerp on his way from the mound.

 

"Yeah," Guillen said Wednesday. "I tried to hit him."

 

What a jerk.

 

Charming? Who the hell writes this dreck?

[Kay]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

wtg Cusack, that hat looks pretty new.

 

You have to be kidding me.

 

Hooray for bandwagons!!!

wasn't he in the movie about the Black Sox scandal Eight Men Out

 

Yep, he was.

 

According to this poll, it seems that most of the sports watching public agrees with how heinous this call is.

 

2) How did you interpret umpire Doug Eddings' gestures after the pitch?

 

 

72.9% Batter was out

 

21.4% Pitch was a strike

 

5.7% Ball was still live

 

 

Hmm. 5.7% is pretty high for a BS call like that.. Must be the WhiteSox bangwagoners who think they know everything because their team is in the ALCS..

 

I like the quote Molina said- "You will never see a catcher trap a ball and just roll it back to the mound. Never," Molina said. "Why? If there is any doubt, why not just tag the guy? He's standing right there."