Send it in Jerome!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

How about some props for Jerome Williams? Though one might not think it, Jerome has been pretty solid since coming to the Cubs, and has really put together a fine month thus far.

 

14 starts, 8 quality starts, 2 disaster starts

 

In the 4 other starts, he has a 4.12 ERA and a 1.25 WHIP

 

For his Cub season: 86 IP, 1.33 WHIP, 3.87 ERA

 

I'll take that from my 23 year old 5 starter. Williams could stand to improve his K/BB from both ends, but the key to his success in his last several outings has been getting more ground balls than he had previously, which helps minimize the impact of his low K rate. So good job Jerome, keep it up.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'd still rather have Estes back...he's a proven winner.

 

Williams is doing a nice job and hopefully this will continue on to next year. I like it when players make Hendrys job harder by doing well and that is a heck of a lot better than the alternative.

[Tim]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

[Mark Priors Calves]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Let's hope so. With an overabundance of ML ready starting pitcher, I think Williams would get the most return at this point.

[Chocolate Milk]

He's had some really nice movement on his pitches lately.

[CuseCubFan69]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Do you really think that Hendry would sell high on this one?

[Tim]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Do you really think that Hendry would sell high on this one?

Williams for Carlos Quentin, baby!

[CuseCubFan69]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Do you really think that Hendry would sell high on this one?

Williams for Carlos Quentin, baby!

 

Very interesting....Who do you slide into Williams slot?

[jtownie]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Do you really think that Hendry would sell high on this one?

Williams for Carlos Quentin, baby!

 

Very interesting....Who do you slide into Williams slot?

 

Kevin Millwood.

[Tim]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Do you really think that Hendry would sell high on this one?

Williams for Carlos Quentin, baby!

 

Very interesting....Who do you slide into Williams slot?

Burnett. I'd pay the 4/40 to get him.

 

If it turns out to be impractical to outbid the Yanks for his services, I'd go with an open competition between Hill, Guzman, Pinto, Nolasco, etc.

[Derwood]

Or.....keep him as your 5th starter and spend the cash elsewhere? Williams is an actual 5th starter, and he has been pretty good. I'd rather see cash spent on middle infield or corner outfield before moving Williams. Why trade him if he's doing well?

[YearofDaCubs]

I was ecstatic when we traded for Jerome. Overall, his ERA is at 4.30 which isn't bad at all. I think he will be our #5 starter next year. I am not a fan of Millwood sorry.

[Tim]

Or.....keep him as your 5th starter and spend the cash elsewhere? Williams is an actual 5th starter, and he has been pretty good. I'd rather see cash spent on middle infield or corner outfield before moving Williams. Why trade him if he's doing well?

Because Carlos Quentin is going to be a stud. He's an OBP machine with good power who plays a great OF and is also a very smart player.

 

A 23 year old pitcher with Williams skills is tough to give up. If he could recover his lost velocity when (if) he gets into shape, he'd be an incredible asset. But I really like Quentin and think he'd be a major piece to build around.

 

For more details, there's a thread in transactions to discuss this possible trade. We should probably contain this thread to talk about Williams. Since I'm the one who derailed it, I apologize! :D

[goonys evil twin]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Do you really think that Hendry would sell high on this one?

Williams for Carlos Quentin, baby!

 

Very interesting....Who do you slide into Williams slot?

Burnett. I'd pay the 4/40 to get him.

 

If it turns out to be impractical to outbid the Yanks for his services, I'd go with an open competition between Hill, Guzman, Pinto, Nolasco, etc.

 

Tim, I gotta say, I don't understand your infatuation with Burnett. I don't think I'd come close to 4/40 with him. He's just not that special. This will be only the 2nd time in his career he's gone past 200 innings, and that's assuming he doesn't get hurt during his next outing (a relatively big assumption with him). You're talking about somebody who is significantly less reliable than Kerry Wood, and less accomplished at the same age. I just don't get it. Yes, he's a quality arm with some upside. But the Cubs don't lack quality arms with upside. They lack consistently solid pitchers, and Burnett is anything but consistently solid. Just look at his road ERA of 4.38 from 2002-2004 (it's 3.88 this year).

[stuy119]

Because Carlos Quentin is going to be a stud. He's an OBP machine with good power who plays a great OF and is also a very smart player.

 

Just the type of player the Cubs wouldn't have patience for. :roll:

[CuseCubFan69]

I put Tims idea about the Williams for Quentin trade in the transactions in the Arizona thread.

[Derwood]

I'm sure Quentin is great, but I'm of the opinion that money need not be spent on the starting rotation next year. All 5 starters from this year are under contract, so why not start the year with Zambrano, Prior, Wood, Maddux and Williams, and then make changes if it doesn't work out? I'd rather get two new outfielders, some better relief and a new 2B or SS with our cash then replace something that doesn't need replacing.

[AAApittsburgh]

I'm sure Quentin is great, but I'm of the opinion that money need not be spent on the starting rotation next year. All 5 starters from this year are under contract, so why not start the year with Zambrano, Prior, Wood, Maddux and Williams, and then make changes if it doesn't work out? I'd rather get two new outfielders, some better relief and a new 2B or SS with our cash then replace something that doesn't need replacing.

But it's going to need replacing next offseason. Maddux and Wood will be gone. Cubs are going to have to get another starter anyway. Since there aren't many good position players available this offseason, why not use some of that money to sign a starter? Not sure the D'Backs would trade Quentin for Williams though.

[TB_11]

I'm sure Quentin is great, but I'm of the opinion that money need not be spent on the starting rotation next year. All 5 starters from this year are under contract, so why not start the year with Zambrano, Prior, Wood, Maddux and Williams, and then make changes if it doesn't work out? I'd rather get two new outfielders, some better relief and a new 2B or SS with our cash then replace something that doesn't need replacing.

But it's going to need replacing next offseason. Maddux and Wood will be gone. Cubs are going to have to get another starter anyway. Since there aren't many good position players available this offseason, why not use some of that money to sign a starter? Not sure the D'Backs would trade Quentin for Williams though.

 

Wood won't be gone! Come on - all this guy needs is to have his surgery, recover, and then he'll be the 20 win/300 strikeout/2.50 era/250 inning stud he's supposed to be!

 

/sarcasm

 

My understading is the Diamondbacks have a surplus of outfielders, and are entertaining the idea of moving Quentin if they get the right offer...... methinks it may take more than just Williams to grab him though.

[hardcorecubfan]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Do you really think that Hendry would sell high on this one?

Williams for Carlos Quentin, baby!

 

Carlos Who???

[imb]

I'd give up Williams+any prospect (maybe not Pie) for Quentin. It's going to take a lot more than just Williams to get a player like Quentin.

 

Seriously, if the DBacks did that, just contract the team now.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

He's turning himself into very attractive trade bait this winter, isn't he?

 

Do you really think that Hendry would sell high on this one?

Williams for Carlos Quentin, baby!

 

Carlos Who???

Quentin :D

[frostwyrm]

I can see Williams developing a serious weight problem as he ages. He's only 23 and he's already chubby. My inclination is to trade him while his value is high. If we keep him I definitely wouldn't give him a multiyear contract. If he gets a 3 year deal he could blow up like a balloon.

[CuseCubFan69]

I can see Williams developing a serious weight problem as he ages. He's only 23 and he's already chubby. My inclination is to trade him while his value is high. If we keep him I definitely wouldn't give him a multiyear contract. If he gets a 3 year deal he could blow up like a balloon.

 

He does remind me of Quervo(sp)...Z's buddy that the Cubs traded.

[Derwood]

I can see Williams developing a serious weight problem as he ages. He's only 23 and he's already chubby. My inclination is to trade him while his value is high. If we keep him I definitely wouldn't give him a multiyear contract. If he gets a 3 year deal he could blow up like a balloon.

 

He does remind me of Quervo(sp)...Z's buddy that the Cubs traded.

 

You mean Ruben Quevedo?

 

But there are plenty of good and fat pitchers. Ray King. Bartolo Colon. CC Sabathia. David Wells (well, at least he used to be good). Even Zambrano wouldn't exactly be considered svelte.