9/5 Cubs (Prior) @ Cardinals (Suppan) 1:15pm WGN

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

hahaha, beautiful K by Prior on Nunez.

 

no offense, but I'm to the point now where I think no strike out by Mark Prior is beautiful. he will never return to the dominant pitcher we saw two years ago if he doesn't start pitching to some contact and stop pitching the count full after getting ahead early. his infatuation with striking guys out is absurd. on pace to yet again not make it into the seventh.

 

it's not logical to argue that no K (a single AB) is beautiful b/c Prior isn't as dominant overall as he was in '03.

 

Actually, Prior is dominant in Wrigley. It's his away split that sucks (5+ ERA).

 

He is pitching around people too much though. His pitch count is usually around 100 going into the 6th, so I can see what you're saying.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

hahaha, beautiful K by Prior on Nunez.

 

no offense, but I'm to the point now where I think no strike out by Mark Prior is beautiful. he will never return to the dominant pitcher we saw two years ago if he doesn't start pitching to some contact and stop pitching the count full after getting ahead early. his infatuation with striking guys out is absurd. on pace to yet again not make it into the seventh.

 

CUBS are 44-38 when the opponents strikeout 8 or less times, 21-32 when they K more than 8 times.

 

Interesting, do you think that stat means something or is it just plain freaky?

 

When you graph oppenents strikeouts vs. CUBS winning pct... it doesn't appear to be a stron correlation..... so, I guess I'd vote for freaky.

 

That's what I figured. Although, I would have guessed a positive correlation between K's and wins.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE FOURTH INNING

 

Edmonds struck out swinging

Walker popped out to second base

Grudzielanek grounded out to short, 6-3

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

TOP OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Walker walked

Walker thrown out trying to steal, 2-4

Blanco struck out (called)

Patterson popped out to short

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

           1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
CUBS       0 0 0 0 0            0 2 0 
St. Louis  0 0 0 0              0 2 0 

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Prior      4.0  2  0  0  1  4  0  66 

[Fred Hornkohl]

That's what I figured. Although, I would have guessed a positive correlation between K's and wins.

 

Definitely a negative correlation, just not a strong one. I think it goes more to the issue of higher pitch counts, but I haven't done the researh. There's an idea for all those cold lonely winter nights, eh?

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Hah, Soup looked like he was running in slow motion.

[XZero771679666304]

Ronnie's gonna be anchored to the bench now. :evil:

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

i'm sorry, but the was an error on Cedeno. grrr

[imb]

thats what you get for dicking around with Suppan.

[XZero771679666304]

What a fuster cluck. Edited September 5, 2005 by XZero77

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

nunez, you should be earholed next AB in this series.

[EricG]

that's better than walking in a run.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

nunez, you should be earholed next AB in this series.

 

Why?

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Rodriguez grounded out to third, 5-3

Diaz struck out (called)

Suppan singled to center field

Eckstein singled to left field, Suppan to second

Nunez singled to left field, Suppan scored, Eckstein to third, Nunez to second onthe throw

Pujols walked (intentionally)

Eckstein scored on a wild pitch, Nunez out at home, 2-6-1, Pujols to second

 

2 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base

 

           1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
CUBS       0 0 0 0 0            0 2 0 
St. Louis  0 0 0 0 2            2 5 0 

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Prior      5.0  5  2  2  2  5  0  87 

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS have now been outscored in the 5th inning 98-54.

 

Go CUBS !!

[cjbucks]

CUBS have now been outscored in the 5th inning 98-54.

 

Go CUBS !!

 

How badly have they been outscored after 2 outs in an inning??

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS have now been outscored in the 5th inning 98-54.

 

Go CUBS !!

 

How badly have they been outscored after 2 outs in an inning??

 

Now that, I don't have...... and I don't think I want to know :wink:

[gflore34]

Anyone know the opponents BA vs. Prior when he's ahead in the count 0-2 or 1-2? I only seen a small sample but, when someone with Prior' stuff is way ahead in the count, those batters shouldn't have a chance. Yet, several times this year I've seen him lose hitter after hitter, the most blatant example being Mike Lamb earlier in the year - that Grand Slam was on a 1-2 pitch. Edited September 5, 2005 by gflore34

[cjbucks]

CUBS have now been outscored in the 5th inning 98-54.

 

Go CUBS !!

 

How badly have they been outscored after 2 outs in an inning??

 

Now that, I don't have...... and I don't think I want to know :wink:

 

It's got to be bad because it seems like we give up 2 out runs on a daily basis and almost never come up with 2 out runs. Probably not accurate but it seems that way.......probably just listening too much to Santo.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Anyone know the opponents BA vs. Prior when he's ahead in the count 0-2 or 1-2? I only seen a small sample but, when someone with Prior' stuff is way ahead in the count, those batters shouldn't have a chance. Yet, several times this year I've seen him lose hitter after hitter, the most blatant example being Mike Lamb earlier in the year - which Grand Slam was on a 1-2 pitch.

 

He does quite well:

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/6787/situational

[CardsFanInChiTown]

well poop

[Fred Hornkohl]

BEERNUTS !!

[cjbucks]

Just listening on the internet - should Burnie have been on 2nd when that ball was hit?

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE SIXTH INNING

 

Prior grounded out to third, 5-3

Hairston grounded out to third, 5-3

Cedeno walked

Lee grounded to third, safe at first on a fielding error, E5, Cedeno to second

Cedeno took third, Lee took second on a wild pitch

Burnitz singled to right center field, Cedeno & Lee scored

Garciaparra singled to center field, Burnitz to second

Walker grounded out to short, 6-3

 

2 runs, 2 hits, 1 errors, 2 men left on base

 

           1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
CUBS       0 0 0 0 0 2          2 4 0 
St. Louis  0 0 0 0 2            2 5 1 

[muntjack]

Look there, another rookie starting another two-out rally with one of those darn walks.

[frostwyrm]

Argh. I want Burnitz on the bench, not on the field getting meanigless hits in meaningless games. He will continue to play as long we are in sniffing distance of .500.