what do you think... (Nomar to OF, 2B?)

[jose cardenals hair]

Of signing Nomar for next year and playing him in the outfield? He hits for average and some power-great arm, enthusiastic about cubs.

Brewers did it with Yount and he won a second MVP.

Also, this way Cedeno gets in at short.

[CubinNY]

Of signing Nomar for next year and playing him in the outfield? He hits for average and some power-great arm, enthusiastic about cubs.

Brewers did it with Yount and he won a second MVP.

Also, this way Cedeno gets in at short.

 

Nice "outside the box" thinking but I don't know if Nomar would go for it.

 

Put Nomar is LF or RF?

 

I also don't know what the Cubs think about Cedeno. To me it appears that they don't think he can be an everyday player, regardless of what Hendry has said. Talk is cheap and Ronny has wasted away on the bench until he was sent down.

[Buford T Justice]

I wouldn't mind moving Nomar to 2nd base..

[NoPepper]

I wouldn't mind moving Nomar to 2nd base..

Nomar would have none of this back when the Red Sox were talking to A-Rod. The theory was to move Nomar to 2ed or 3rd to allow A-Rod to play short.

 

Moving Nomar to the outfield wasn't mentioned back then, so I cannot comment on what the gossip, boards, radio etc. had to say about that. I doubt it would go over well with Nomar though. He doesn't seem to be that much of a team player.

[katway]

I wouldn't mind moving Nomar to 2nd base..

 

I think a move to 2nd would help both him and the Cubs. We could bring up Cedeno and move Nomar to 2nd. That gives us a better defensive infield than Nomar at SS and Walker at 2nd. Although I like Walker, I would have no problems trading him for a consistent middle reliever.

 

For Nomar, such a move could extend his career since his range at SS has decreased and his numbers from 2nd base would equal or rival Jeff Kent's.

[Buford T Justice]

Nomar is just a class act, a good hitter. Plus I think we can get him cheap..

[Tracer Bullet]

I wouldn't mind moving Nomar to 2nd base..

Nomar would have none of this back when the Red Sox were talking to A-Rod. The theory was to move Nomar to 2ed or 3rd to allow A-Rod to play short.

 

Moving Nomar to the outfield wasn't mentioned back then, so I cannot comment on what the gossip, boards, radio etc. had to say about that. I doubt it would go over well with Nomar though. He doesn't seem to be that much of a team player.

 

That may have been true in Boston (I don't really trust the media, and his teammates seemed to like him), but Nomar's in a different situation now. Unless he gets unbelievably hot in the next 2 months, he's not going to have a lot of teams looking to give him a big contract (or maybe even a small contract). He may be open to a move to 2B or the OF now.

 

On the other hand, I'm not sure I don't want him at SS. Would have been nice to see Cedeno get a real chance to face ML pitching while Nomar was out so we'd know what he could do. But if we'd have done that, Neifi couldn't have "saved" the team's claim to 4th place in the NL Central. :roll:

[10man]

I don't think Nomar has the same clout or prestige anymore as when he was in Boston, so a change in position might not be as "out in LF" as we consider it to be.

[NoPepper]

I wouldn't mind moving Nomar to 2nd base..

Nomar would have none of this back when the Red Sox were talking to A-Rod. The theory was to move Nomar to 2ed or 3rd to allow A-Rod to play short.

 

Moving Nomar to the outfield wasn't mentioned back then, so I cannot comment on what the gossip, boards, radio etc. had to say about that. I doubt it would go over well with Nomar though. He doesn't seem to be that much of a team player.

 

That may have been true in Boston (I don't really trust the media, and his teammates seemed to like him), but Nomar's in a different situation now. Unless he gets unbelievably hot in the next 2 months, he's not going to have a lot of teams looking to give him a big contract (or maybe even a small contract). He may be open to a move to 2B or the OF now.

 

On the other hand, I'm not sure I don't want him at SS. Would have been nice to see Cedeno get a real chance to face ML pitching while Nomar was out so we'd know what he could do. But if we'd have done that, Neifi couldn't have "saved" the team's claim to 4th place in the NL Central. :roll:

 

It wasn't just the media though. (I don't trust them either.) Call in talk shows, comments made by other players (especially after he left), boards like this etc. made similar comments.

 

I do agree that his situation has changed. I think he will have to prove himself all over again in a way. He's injury prone and a risky investment (at any position), so no team is going to pony up like they would have had he been a free agent say, 3 or 4 years ago.

 

As a Cub fan, I was thrilled when he went to Chicago. I do hope he stays here and can be healthy. Wrigley is a great ballpark for him. I just hope he can keep his ego out and help the team.

[EricG]

a reason to sign Nomar is that he would likely be voted starting shortstop in the all star game. he is a big name. move him to OF/2B he is not an all star.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Nomar wouldn't be a very good option in the OF, his offense would be diluted there. I also don't know about moving him to 2B, since there's no guarantee he'll be better than Walker, who we have on the cheap next season.

[katway]

a reason to sign Nomar is that he would likely be voted starting shortstop in the all star game. he is a big name. move him to OF/2B he is not an all star.

 

He still keeps his name if he moves to 2nd and would probably be the best offensive 2nd baseman in baseball. Like Arod, he makes the All-Star team at a different position.

[JD42K]

I'd like to see Nomar out in LF next year. I think it'd be better for his groin and Achilles. Plus, if he's healthy, then his offense would be more than adequate. Definitely better than whatever we've had out there THIS year.

[frostwyrm]

Putting Nomar at 2B seems like a pretty solid move. I would like to see him get some starts there this season.

[jyoung55]

I wouldn't mind moving Nomar to 2nd base..

Nomar would have none of this back when the Red Sox were talking to A-Rod. The theory was to move Nomar to 2ed or 3rd to allow A-Rod to play short.

 

Moving Nomar to the outfield wasn't mentioned back then, so I cannot comment on what the gossip, boards, radio etc. had to say about that. I doubt it would go over well with Nomar though. He doesn't seem to be that much of a team player.

 

That may have been true in Boston (I don't really trust the media, and his teammates seemed to like him), but Nomar's in a different situation now. Unless he gets unbelievably hot in the next 2 months, he's not going to have a lot of teams looking to give him a big contract (or maybe even a small contract). He may be open to a move to 2B or the OF now.

 

On the other hand, I'm not sure I don't want him at SS. Would have been nice to see Cedeno get a real chance to face ML pitching while Nomar was out so we'd know what he could do. But if we'd have done that, Neifi couldn't have "saved" the team's claim to 4th place in the NL Central. :roll:

 

It wasn't just the media though. (I don't trust them either.) Call in talk shows, comments made by other players (especially after he left), boards like this etc. made similar comments.

 

I do agree that his situation has changed. I think he will have to prove himself all over again in a way. He's injury prone and a risky investment (at any position), so no team is going to pony up like they would have had he been a free agent say, 3 or 4 years ago.

 

As a Cub fan, I was thrilled when he went to Chicago. I do hope he stays here and can be healthy. Wrigley is a great ballpark for him. I just hope he can keep his ego out and help the team.

 

Gee those are some pretty credible sources you point out. It must be true, Nomar is a me-first horrible teammate.

:roll: This is why many people here no longer care for the sawks. They jump on every player that leaves the team. see also Walker, Todd.

[NoPepper]

Gee those are some pretty credible sources you point out. It must be true, Nomar is a me-first horrible teammate.

:roll: This is why many people here no longer care for the sawks. They jump on every player that leaves the team. see also Walker, Todd.

 

I never said they were credible, nor did I supply anything as a source. I simply posted what I remembered back when the "move Nomar to another position" suggestion came up when A-Rod talks were going on.

 

Sox fans don't jump on every (or even most) players that leaves the team. There are many boards, call in shows etc. where fans LOVE ex-players, including Nomar. OK, Jay Payton, maybe not. Clemens, while he was a Yankee mostly (but they hate all Yankees). Nobody here I know liked not signing Todd Walker. I wish they kept Williamson. Cabrera, Martinez, Roberts etc. all still have big followings, and most people I know here wish they were still around.

 

A few fans I talked to just yesterday wish the Cubs kept Remlingler though

:wink:

[GaryWoods]

a reason to sign Nomar is that he would likely be voted starting shortstop in the all star game. he is a big name. move him to OF/2B he is not an all star.

 

Why is that a reason to sign him? Does having an All-Star starter on your team give you a couple of free wins or something these days?

 

If Cedeno/Nomar is a better overall combination than Nomar/Walker, then move him to second. If Cedeno as SS and Nomar in LF is more productive than Nomar at SS and Murton/Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz/whoever else in LF, then move Nomar to LF.

 

Signing a player to play a certain position just because he has a chance to be an All-Star starter at that position would quite possibly be the worst reason in history to sign someone.

[EricG]

a reason to sign Nomar is that he would likely be voted starting shortstop in the all star game. he is a big name. move him to OF/2B he is not an all star.

 

Why is that a reason to sign him? Does having an All-Star starter on your team give you a couple of free wins or something these days?

 

If Cedeno/Nomar is a better overall combination than Nomar/Walker, then move him to second. If Cedeno as SS and Nomar in LF is more productive than Nomar at SS and Murton/Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz/whoever else in LF, then move Nomar to LF.

 

Signing a player to play a certain position just because he has a chance to be an All-Star starter at that position would quite possibly be the worst reason in history to sign someone.

it's a way to market the team. sell jerseys

[GaryWoods]

a reason to sign Nomar is that he would likely be voted starting shortstop in the all star game. he is a big name. move him to OF/2B he is not an all star.

 

Why is that a reason to sign him? Does having an All-Star starter on your team give you a couple of free wins or something these days?

 

If Cedeno/Nomar is a better overall combination than Nomar/Walker, then move him to second. If Cedeno as SS and Nomar in LF is more productive than Nomar at SS and Murton/Lawton/Hairston/Burnitz/whoever else in LF, then move Nomar to LF.

 

Signing a player to play a certain position just because he has a chance to be an All-Star starter at that position would quite possibly be the worst reason in history to sign someone.

it's a way to market the team. sell jerseys

 

Nomar has been with the Cubs for over a year now. Most people who want Nomar jerseys have them. Those that don't have one by now probably aren't going to buy one regardless of whether or not he starts an All-Star game.

 

As far as marketing goes, the Cubs have been one of the top 2-3 teams in baseball in terms of fans outside their geographical area for years, even when they were represented in the AS game by guys like Steve Trachsel, Randy Myers, and Vance Law. I think they have marketed themselves just fine.

 

The only thing they can do better as far as marketing is win; so it only makes sense to field the team that give you the best chance to do that regardless of whther or not any of them start the All-Star game.

[jose cardenals hair]

Nomar wouldn't be a very good option in the OF, his offense would be diluted there. I also don't know about moving him to 2B, since there's no guarantee he'll be better than Walker, who we have on the cheap next season.

 

how would being in the outfield do this? His power numbers may not be 30-40 hr, but 20's and 100 RBI are good enough-plus OBP is high.

above average arm, above ave speed-sounds like Yount to me...

[Cubfanintheknow]

I wouldn't mind moving Nomar to 2nd base..

Nomar would have none of this back when the Red Sox were talking to A-Rod. The theory was to move Nomar to 2ed or 3rd to allow A-Rod to play short.

 

Moving Nomar to the outfield wasn't mentioned back then, so I cannot comment on what the gossip, boards, radio etc. had to say about that. I doubt it would go over well with Nomar though. He doesn't seem to be that much of a team player.

 

Actually, rumor had it that if the Red Sox acquired A-Rod, Nomar would be traded. The White Sox were mentioned as a destination for Nomar. Here's a link: http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/6935544 When the trade fell through, it was reported that Garciaparra was "upset" because he felt the Red Sox didn't appreciate him.

 

At this point, I think Nomar would at least consider a move to another position, although perhaps not at the expense of Todd Walker, who was a teammate of his in Boston as well. A move to left might lessen the risk of injury, which would certainly be to his benefit.

[Soul]

The only place we should be moving Nomar is to another team.

[marc_foust]

As I mentioned in another thread, I dont know why everyone is so quick to drop Todd Walker. Walker is a top producing player at his position. Instead of replacing one of our better players why not fill one of our actual needs? Move Nomar to the outfield where his production would be somewhat passable for a corner outfielder. Then we would only need to decide what to do with RF, CF, and pitching. If we move to second we lose a talented left handed bat and create another whole we need to fill in a weak FA class.

 

We have a few players that produce at or above position expectations, those being Lee, ARam, Barrett, Walker, Prior, Z, Maddux in a number five roll, Dempster, Ohman, Wuertz or Novoa could get it done, and Williamson. Nomar in the outfield could also meet needs. That leaves Patterson as a question mark and a need for starting pitching, bull pen help, and RF assuming Cedeno plays SS.