Hendry's Contract

[adamb0719]

I just read on Cubs.com that Hendry and Bakers contract are both up in 2006. This may have already been discussed on this board but...

Does anyone feel that there is a possibility of Hendry not returning?

I spend alot of timing thinking that Baker has to go, but is it possible Hendry will go too? (I'm assuming Baker will)

Also...this one I should probaby know the answer to...Who makes the final decision on Hendry? Thanks to anyone who answers, and sorry if this has all already been discussed.

[NCCubFan]

Also...this one I should probaby know the answer to...Who makes the final decision on Hendry?

That would be Andy MacPhail, the Cubs' President.

[YearofDaCubs]

Wow, I didnt even know Hendry's contract was up.

[adamb0719]

That would be Andy MacPhail, the Cubs' President.

 

That is what I thought but was not sure if it was his choice alone or if there was some one else who had any say in it. Not sure who the someone else would have been, some kind of committe or board...the upperlevel business aspects of baseball is something that I know very little of.

[Warren Brusstar]

Dear Mr. MacPhail,

 

Please do Cub fans the favor of ridding us of both of these incompetent idiots.

 

Thank you,

 

Cub Nation.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Keep Hendry, get rid of Baker. Jim's biggest mistake was hiring Dusty. I hope he doesn't get pushed out of the organization because of him.

[Notorious]

Keep Hendry, get rid of Baker. Jim's biggest mistake was hiring Dusty. I hope he doesn't get pushed out of the organization because of him.

 

It wasn't his only mistake. Try standing behind him for so long to justify his hiring. That is a big mistake. There have been others as well, even if the good outweight the bad.

[USSoccer]

Keep Hendry, get rid of Baker. Jim's biggest mistake was hiring Dusty. I hope he doesn't get pushed out of the organization because of him.

 

It wasn't his only mistake. Try standing behind him for so long to justify his hiring. That is a big mistake. There have been others as well, even if the good outweight the bad.

 

Foolish loyalty gets people fired sometimes. Dick Jauron got fired for not getting rid of an inept offensive coordinator. It would not shock me to see Hendry go down with the ship in this case.

[JC]

Keep Hendry, get rid of Baker. Jim's biggest mistake was hiring Dusty. I hope he doesn't get pushed out of the organization because of him.

 

It wasn't his only mistake. Try standing behind him for so long to justify his hiring. That is a big mistake. There have been others as well, even if the good outweight the bad.

 

Foolish loyalty gets people fired sometimes. Dick Jauron got fired for not getting rid of an inept offensive coordinator. It would not shock me to see Hendry go down with the ship in this case.

 

Jim "Playoffs?" Mora got fired from the Colts because he wouldn't get rid of his defensive coordinator.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

[dalgreen]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

 

I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief. I guess people still are revering him for the Ramirez trade while ignoring re-signing Macias (at his salary), Hollandsworth and signing of Burnitz. They both should go or they both should stay. But I'm sure the tune will slowly change once Maddux's reaches his innings. And I used to be a big Baker/Hendry fan.

[Fanzones trumpet]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

 

I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief. I guess people still are revering him for the Ramirez trade while ignoring re-signing Macias (at his salary), Hollandsworth and signing of Burnitz. They both should go or they both should stay. But I'm sure the tune will slowly change once Maddux's reaches his innings. And I used to be a big Baker/Hendry fan.

 

IMO getting rid of Hendry now would be tantamount to the firing of Dallas Green in 1987; it would set the organization back years. As we learned with Green, continuity in that spot is critical, particularly when it comes to integrating young players. Hendry's surely made mistakes, but he's shown signs of learning from them (e.g. developing a bullpen from within) and he's certainly proven to be an adept judge of young talent.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

 

I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief. I guess people still are revering him for the Ramirez trade while ignoring re-signing Macias (at his salary), Hollandsworth and signing of Burnitz. They both should go or they both should stay. But I'm sure the tune will slowly change once Maddux's reaches his innings. And I used to be a big Baker/Hendry fan.

 

Criticism of Hendry and criticism of Baker are somewhat different animals. As I've said before, a manager can put the team in the best position to win, or he can hurt the team. However, a general manager can go both ways, he can improve the team(which Hendry has) or he can impair the team(which Hendry has). For me, it comes down to who the replacement would be. Can we do better than Baker? I'm fairly certain of it. Almost any replacement would be an improvement to some degree IMO. I don't think the same is true for Hendry. I think it's quite likely that we get someone who is worse at making deals than Hendry, and possibly someone who has an even worse organizational philosophy than Hendry. Basically, I'm scared to death that Gary Hughes is next in line as GM. That would really really set us back as an organization.

[dalgreen]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

 

I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief. I guess people still are revering him for the Ramirez trade while ignoring re-signing Macias (at his salary), Hollandsworth and signing of Burnitz. They both should go or they both should stay. But I'm sure the tune will slowly change once Maddux's reaches his innings. And I used to be a big Baker/Hendry fan.

 

IMO getting rid of Hendry now would be tantamount to the firing of Dallas Green in 1987; it would set the organization back years. As we learned with Green, continuity in that spot is critical, particularly when it comes to integrating young players. Hendry's surely made mistakes, but he's shown signs of learning from them (e.g. developing a bullpen from within) and he's certainly proven to be an adept judge of young talent.

 

As a big Dallas Green fan (hence my name), I would slightly disagree. At that time, Dallas Green was the only "baseball" guy making decisions. To prove my point is the idiots at Tribune, Co. wanted him to move down to field manager. I still think we would've made a World Series appearance had Green stayed as GM. I think now we have more "baseball" guys in the organiztion. I don't see MacPhail going from Hendry to a bad candidate like we did when hiring Jim Frey after Dallas Green. I'm just not as hopeful as others that he will change his spending habits when it comes to overvaluing and paying for veteran players.

[Fanzones trumpet]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

 

I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief. I guess people still are revering him for the Ramirez trade while ignoring re-signing Macias (at his salary), Hollandsworth and signing of Burnitz. They both should go or they both should stay. But I'm sure the tune will slowly change once Maddux's reaches his innings. And I used to be a big Baker/Hendry fan.

 

IMO getting rid of Hendry now would be tantamount to the firing of Dallas Green in 1987; it would set the organization back years. As we learned with Green, continuity in that spot is critical, particularly when it comes to integrating young players. Hendry's surely made mistakes, but he's shown signs of learning from them (e.g. developing a bullpen from within) and he's certainly proven to be an adept judge of young talent.

 

As a big Dallas Green fan (hence my name), I would slightly disagree. At that time, Dallas Green was the only "baseball" guy making decisions. To prove my point is the idiots at Tribune, Co. wanted him to move down to field manager. I still think we would've made a World Series appearance had Green stayed as GM. I think now we have more "baseball" guys in the organiztion. I don't see MacPhail going from Hendry to a bad candidate like we did when hiring Jim Frey after Dallas Green. I'm just not as hopeful as others that he will change his spending habits when it comes to overvaluing and paying for veteran players.

 

1. Who's to say MacPhail wouldn't go along with Hendry? Those two are far more joined at the hip than Hendry and Baker. And even if MacPhail survived and Hendry didn't, MacPhail's hiring of Ed Lynch doesn't give me a lot of confidence that he'd pick a first-rate GM.

 

2. We agree on Dallas Green. But let's remember that his track record while GM was pretty bad except for 1984, and a lot worse than Hendry's--five losing seasons out of six years, including a last place finish in 1987, his last year. The problem with firing Green was that all of his labors with the farm system were starting to bear fruit (as we saw in 1989), and his successor was utterly incapable of taking advantage of it. I feel that there's a parallel with Hendry. The bottom line is that no one knows the abilities of the young players in the farm system better than Hendry.

[Fanzones trumpet]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

 

I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief. I guess people still are revering him for the Ramirez trade while ignoring re-signing Macias (at his salary), Hollandsworth and signing of Burnitz. They both should go or they both should stay. But I'm sure the tune will slowly change once Maddux's reaches his innings. And I used to be a big Baker/Hendry fan.

 

IMO getting rid of Hendry now would be tantamount to the firing of Dallas Green in 1987; it would set the organization back years. As we learned with Green, continuity in that spot is critical, particularly when it comes to integrating young players. Hendry's surely made mistakes, but he's shown signs of learning from them (e.g. developing a bullpen from within) and he's certainly proven to be an adept judge of young talent.

 

As a big Dallas Green fan (hence my name), I would slightly disagree. At that time, Dallas Green was the only "baseball" guy making decisions. To prove my point is the idiots at Tribune, Co. wanted him to move down to field manager. I still think we would've made a World Series appearance had Green stayed as GM. I think now we have more "baseball" guys in the organiztion. I don't see MacPhail going from Hendry to a bad candidate like we did when hiring Jim Frey after Dallas Green. I'm just not as hopeful as others that he will change his spending habits when it comes to overvaluing and paying for veteran players.

 

1. Who's to say MacPhail wouldn't go along with Hendry? Those two are far more joined at the hip than Hendry and Baker. And even if MacPhail survived and Hendry didn't, MacPhail's hiring of Ed Lynch doesn't give me a lot of confidence that he'd pick a first-rate GM.

 

2. We agree on Dallas Green. But let's remember that his track record while GM was pretty bad except for 1984, and a lot worse than Hendry's--five losing seasons out of six years, including a last place finish in 1987, his last year. The problem with firing Green was that all of his labors with the farm system were starting to bear fruit (as we saw in 1989), and his successor was utterly incapable of taking advantage of it. I feel that there's a parallel with Hendry. The bottom line is that no one knows the abilities of the young players in the farm system better than Hendry.

[Fanzones trumpet]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

 

I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief. I guess people still are revering him for the Ramirez trade while ignoring re-signing Macias (at his salary), Hollandsworth and signing of Burnitz. They both should go or they both should stay. But I'm sure the tune will slowly change once Maddux's reaches his innings. And I used to be a big Baker/Hendry fan.

 

IMO getting rid of Hendry now would be tantamount to the firing of Dallas Green in 1987; it would set the organization back years. As we learned with Green, continuity in that spot is critical, particularly when it comes to integrating young players. Hendry's surely made mistakes, but he's shown signs of learning from them (e.g. developing a bullpen from within) and he's certainly proven to be an adept judge of young talent.

 

As a big Dallas Green fan (hence my name), I would slightly disagree. At that time, Dallas Green was the only "baseball" guy making decisions. To prove my point is the idiots at Tribune, Co. wanted him to move down to field manager. I still think we would've made a World Series appearance had Green stayed as GM. I think now we have more "baseball" guys in the organiztion. I don't see MacPhail going from Hendry to a bad candidate like we did when hiring Jim Frey after Dallas Green. I'm just not as hopeful as others that he will change his spending habits when it comes to overvaluing and paying for veteran players.

 

1. Who's to say MacPhail wouldn't go along with Hendry? Those two are far more joined at the hip than Hendry and Baker. And even if MacPhail survived and Hendry didn't, MacPhail's hiring of Ed Lynch doesn't give me a lot of confidence that he'd pick a first-rate GM.

 

2. We agree on Dallas Green. But let's remember that his track record while GM was pretty bad except for 1984, and a lot worse than Hendry's--five losing seasons out of six years, including a last place finish in 1987, his last year. The problem with firing Green was that all of his labors with the farm system were starting to bear fruit (as we saw in 1989), and his successor was utterly incapable of taking advantage of it. I feel that there's a parallel with Hendry. The bottom line is that no one knows the abilities of the young players in the farm system better than Hendry.

[dalgreen]

I agree with the above statement. Hendry's biggest fault right now is sticking with Baker. If he can rectify that problem this offseason, I think it's a good idea to stick with him. Most of the moves he's made have been good ones.

 

I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief. I guess people still are revering him for the Ramirez trade while ignoring re-signing Macias (at his salary), Hollandsworth and signing of Burnitz. They both should go or they both should stay. But I'm sure the tune will slowly change once Maddux's reaches his innings. And I used to be a big Baker/Hendry fan.

 

IMO getting rid of Hendry now would be tantamount to the firing of Dallas Green in 1987; it would set the organization back years. As we learned with Green, continuity in that spot is critical, particularly when it comes to integrating young players. Hendry's surely made mistakes, but he's shown signs of learning from them (e.g. developing a bullpen from within) and he's certainly proven to be an adept judge of young talent.

 

As a big Dallas Green fan (hence my name), I would slightly disagree. At that time, Dallas Green was the only "baseball" guy making decisions. To prove my point is the idiots at Tribune, Co. wanted him to move down to field manager. I still think we would've made a World Series appearance had Green stayed as GM. I think now we have more "baseball" guys in the organiztion. I don't see MacPhail going from Hendry to a bad candidate like we did when hiring Jim Frey after Dallas Green. I'm just not as hopeful as others that he will change his spending habits when it comes to overvaluing and paying for veteran players.

 

1. Who's to say MacPhail wouldn't go along with Hendry? Those two are far more joined at the hip than Hendry and Baker. And even if MacPhail survived and Hendry didn't, MacPhail's hiring of Ed Lynch doesn't give me a lot of confidence that he'd pick a first-rate GM.

 

2. We agree on Dallas Green. But let's remember that his track record while GM was pretty bad except for 1984, and a lot worse than Hendry's--five losing seasons out of six years, including a last place finish in 1987, his last year. The problem with firing Green was that all of his labors with the farm system were starting to bear fruit (as we saw in 1989), and his successor was utterly incapable of taking advantage of it. I feel that there's a parallel with Hendry. The bottom line is that no one knows the abilities of the young players in the farm system better than Hendry.

 

Trips posts! Sorry, I played poker over the weekend. Anyway, Hendry isn't the only one with a grasp of the system. The player development, Onera Finiera (spelling probably wrong) seems to be doing a good job.

 

Back to Green: Dallas did it the right way. The 1984-1985 teams were built to win it all, and then 86-88 were supposed to be developing years. We should've gone to the Series in 84, and we were on our way in 1985 until four of our five starting pitchers went on the dl at the same time. So, I don't think anything snuck up on the Cubs. As you said, the system started to bear fruit, but Frey and then Himes ruined the organization.

[10man]

I am still very much on Hendry's side and feel that it would be a mistake to let him go. I still believe that when Hendry first chose Dusty Baker that he made the correct choice at the time. Baker's job was to change the mindset of the entire organization from a losing attitude into one where the entire city EXPECTS THIS TEAM TO WIN, and Baker has indeed done that. Hendry's mistake was signing Dusty to a contract that was 2 years too long. Now it is entirely possible that Dusty wouldn't agree to signing anything shorter than 4 years so Jim probably had to make a judgement call on that one.

 

What irks me now is that firing Baker carries with it a hefty price tag because of his contract and it's entirely possible that the Tribsters would balk at flushing money down the toilet that way. Those guys don't care as much as we fans do about the Cubs record as long as profit from ticket sales keep pouring in which they are.

 

Hendry's major fault now is his extreme loyalty towards Dusty Baker and I have a bad feeling that he learned this trait from no other than His Loyal Dustiness. Bite the Bullet, Jim. Take a stand in front of your bosses. Let them know you stuck with this guy one year too long and that a new progressive mindset must be instilled into the team.

 

FIRE DUSTY BAKER NOW.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I stated before the season and still agree that Hendry did the best he could with the payroll he had and under the limitations of contracts already signed.

 

When looking at the deals signed before the 2004 season, we should have realized that no major moves would happen prior to 2005. The team was built to win it all last season and they pissed that chance away. Escalators in the contracts to Maddux, Wood, Hawkins, Remlinger, and Lee and arbitration raises to Patterson and Zambrano would eat away any money leaving the books due to Alou and Clement. After getting so close in 2003, Hendry went for broke in 2004 and I can't blame him for that. I would have done the same thing too. We were hamstrung this year by the Sosa deal...but Hendry didn't sign that deal and even if he had, he nor anyone else could have anticipated that slide.

 

While he may have signed players like Macias and Blanco to over-priced deals, he didn't overpay the lot by more than 2.5-3 million over what you would pay replacements. That amount would not have helped us in the pen, or a closer, or in getting Drew (injured) or Beltran. Looking at the contracts that were signed this offseason, I can't see much else Hendry could have done that he didn't do. We didn't have the room in the budget for Beltran, Drew was overpaid as was Ordonez, and none of the FA closers worked out.

[halplm]

Every day that goes by with Dusty as the manager, my respect for Hendry dies a little more.

 

Not only did he make the wrong decision to hire Dusty (Everyone who ever followed him with the Giants knew that he had the problems we all know now).

 

He's made the problem worse by playing into Dusty's hands and signing "his guys." This team was ready to take a major step forward with youth and talent. Instead, we're now stuck in veteran mediocrity with talented youth being wasted on the bench, and talented veterans being misused and abused ending up hurt or slumping uncontrollably.

 

Hendry makes phenominal deals when he is given opportunities to. When he is handcuffed (like last season offseason with Sosa), or when he gives Dusty too much say in things... he doesn't know how to handle it.

 

If he would drop Dusty and be more assertive with building the best team and giving it a manager that knows how to use it, he would be the right guy for the job.

 

He has not shown any willingness to do that.

[dalgreen]

Every day that goes by with Dusty as the manager, my respect for Hendry dies a little more.

 

Not only did he make the wrong decision to hire Dusty (Everyone who ever followed him with the Giants knew that he had the problems we all know now).

 

He's made the problem worse by playing into Dusty's hands and signing "his guys." This team was ready to take a major step forward with youth and talent. Instead, we're now stuck in veteran mediocrity with talented youth being wasted on the bench, and talented veterans being misused and abused ending up hurt or slumping uncontrollably.

 

Hendry makes phenominal deals when he is given opportunities to. When he is handcuffed (like last season offseason with Sosa), or when he gives Dusty too much say in things... he doesn't know how to handle it.

 

If he would drop Dusty and be more assertive with building the best team and giving it a manager that knows how to use it, he would be the right guy for the job.

 

He has not shown any willingness to do that.

 

Weren't you one of the many who last offseason proclaimed, "Hendry is taking back this team" after he let Alou, Mercker and Farnsworth go? So, now it's back to being Baker's team. Hmmm... :-k

[halplm]

Every day that goes by with Dusty as the manager, my respect for Hendry dies a little more.

 

Not only did he make the wrong decision to hire Dusty (Everyone who ever followed him with the Giants knew that he had the problems we all know now).

 

He's made the problem worse by playing into Dusty's hands and signing "his guys." This team was ready to take a major step forward with youth and talent. Instead, we're now stuck in veteran mediocrity with talented youth being wasted on the bench, and talented veterans being misused and abused ending up hurt or slumping uncontrollably.

 

Hendry makes phenominal deals when he is given opportunities to. When he is handcuffed (like last season offseason with Sosa), or when he gives Dusty too much say in things... he doesn't know how to handle it.

 

If he would drop Dusty and be more assertive with building the best team and giving it a manager that knows how to use it, he would be the right guy for the job.

 

He has not shown any willingness to do that.

 

Weren't you one of the many who last offseason proclaimed, "Hendry is taking back this team" after he let Alou, Mercker and Farnsworth go? So, now it's back to being Baker's team. Hmmm... :-k

 

I don't think I was. I don't recall saying that. Doesn't mean I didn't of course. I have until very recently always been a fan of Hendry. I thought he was doing what he could in the offseason, but I've always thought he had restrictions put one him... first and foremost getting rid of Sosa at any price.

 

Until recently I didn't really belive he made decisions based on what Dusty wanted. However, Dusty's pure obstinance in playing his boys over young talent and Hendry not getting rid of Dusty's boys to stop it, means that he not only doesn't want to cross Dusty, but he seems to approve of his philosophy... Hence, my change in opinion of Hendry...

[Satch80]

"I cannot believe how much love Hendry gets as if he's done no wrong. He was 0-4 in the offseason when everyone said we needed a LF, closer, leadoff man and OBP guys. He's 0-5 if you include the need to improve the middle relief."

 

I for one don't give Hendry a free pass, he's got some blind spots. I don't think he values defense enough, esp up the middle (Barrett, Walker, Nomar)

I also think he needs to pay more attention to the mix of players. He needs to incorporate a few more OBP, bat handlers with the free swinging sluggers.

But I don't blame him for not paying mega bucks for any of the closers in last year's mix or throwing big $$$ after bullpen help which is a crapshoot at best.

Hiring Dusty at the time wss a good idea, just too bad he couldn't have signed him to a 2 or 3 yr contract to see how he fared in a high pressure big market because there was some evidence from SF that he didn't like criticism.

But once hiring him I think Hendry needed to resist turning the Cubs into a geriatric team as has happened to the Giants. Dusty's weakest point has always been playing veterans at expense of youth and even common sense.

This means not signing players such as Macias, Perez, Hollandsworth

etc and allow the bench to be composed of young talent and perhaps one veteran utility infielder. If you're going to hire Dusty for his assets you have to protect against his liabilities. He has enough of a track record to know what they are.

There is some evidence that Hendry is beginning to grasp some of this so it will be interesting to see how he goes about "Dusty proofing" the team in the off season.

[NewUserName]

I really think that this is a case of a bad mix between GM and manager. Hendry seems to believe that the young players in our system have a future or he would have traded several of them to bring in some veterans to help the team. Not only at the deadline but before the season even started.

 

Dusty is probably the worst manager in the last 10 years at player development. He doesnt trust young players nor does he believe he can win with them. He also seems to support the win this season cause.

 

I am not trying to say which one is better. I just dont think that it is a good match. In some NL towns the GM and the Managers seem to be on the same page (Atlanta,St Loius) I also think this is why Dusty was more successful in SF. Brian Sabeon doesnt seem to believe in young players either. I also think that if Dusty managed the Yankees they would probably be about same.

 

I personnally would love to see us go real young next season. At least there would be some more enthusiasm. It just really scares me that Dusty might be back next year with the talent that we might have coming up. At the end of the day I think that it is important for Hendry and his future to realize that if he is going to put his stock in the farm system that Dusty is definiatly not the right guy for the job.