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One could also say that Manny is having an early decline. His BA and OBP have been steadily dropping in the last few years.

 

Does anyone know how much longer his contract lasts?

 

Guaranteed through 2008 with team options in 2009 and 2010.

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Does anyone know how much longer his contract lasts?

 

06 I beleive. (EDIT: I stand corrected)

 

And, after looking at things again, Dunn probably is a better choice than manny.

 

However, I'll take either of them with a smile on my face.

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Does anyone know how much longer his contract lasts?

 

06 I beleive.

 

And, after looking at things again, Dunn probably is a better choice than manny.

 

However, I'll take either of them with a smile on my face.

 

agreed. either way its a win-win.

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One could also say that Manny is having an early decline. His BA and OBP have been steadily dropping in the last few years.

 

Does anyone know how much longer his contract lasts?

 

Guaranteed through 2008 with team options in 2009 and 2010.

 

Any sort of buyout on those options?

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the only way manny gets moved is if the redsox pay 5 mil off of ever year after this year of his contract
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One could also say that Manny is having an early decline. His BA and OBP have been steadily dropping in the last few years.

 

Does anyone know how much longer his contract lasts?

 

Guaranteed through 2008 with team options in 2009 and 2010.

 

Any sort of buyout on those options?

 

Not to my knowledge. Manny also gets a 1 million dollar bonus if traded. I don't know if this means he gets 1 million dollars once, or if 1 million is added to his salary every year, but I believe it is the former.

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One could also say that Manny is having an early decline. His BA and OBP have been steadily dropping in the last few years.

 

Does anyone know how much longer his contract lasts?

 

Guaranteed through 2008 with team options in 2009 and 2010.

 

Any sort of buyout on those options?

 

Not to my knowledge. Manny also gets a 1 million dollar bonus if traded. I don't know if this means he gets 1 million dollars once, or if 1 million is added to his salary every year, but I believe it is the former.

 

He can't ask to be traded can he since he is in the middle of a multi year contract? I'd hate to see the Cubs go right back into another Sosa situation.

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One could also say that Manny is having an early decline. His BA and OBP have been steadily dropping in the last few years.

 

Does anyone know how much longer his contract lasts?

 

Guaranteed through 2008 with team options in 2009 and 2010.

 

Any sort of buyout on those options?

 

Not to my knowledge. Manny also gets a 1 million dollar bonus if traded. I don't know if this means he gets 1 million dollars once, or if 1 million is added to his salary every year, but I believe it is the former.

 

He can't ask to be traded can he since he is in the middle of a multi year contract? I'd hate to see the Cubs go right back into another Sosa situation.

 

I agree. Now that I look at it more. Its starting to scare me. I'd still probably take him. But not unless they pay alot of his contract. I want dunn even more than before.

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One could also say that Manny is having an early decline. His BA and OBP have been steadily dropping in the last few years.

 

Does anyone know how much longer his contract lasts?

 

Guaranteed through 2008 with team options in 2009 and 2010.

 

Any sort of buyout on those options?

 

Not to my knowledge. Manny also gets a 1 million dollar bonus if traded. I don't know if this means he gets 1 million dollars once, or if 1 million is added to his salary every year, but I believe it is the former.

 

He can't ask to be traded can he since he is in the middle of a multi year contract? I'd hate to see the Cubs go right back into another Sosa situation.

 

I agree. Now that I look at it more. Its starting to scare me. I'd still probably take him. But not unless they pay alot of his contract. I want dunn even more than before.

 

I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

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I noticed my title was changed to "or Dunn"...? Was there actually speculation that a deal for Dunn is even being discussed, let alone "close"? Quickly browsing through all the pages I missed I saw Dunn's name, but I didn't see where this all roots from?
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I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

 

Suzuki as in Ichiro? Is that even the slightest bit possible?

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I noticed my title was changed to "or Dunn"...? Was there actually speculation that a deal for Dunn is even being discussed, let alone "close"? Quickly browsing through all the pages I missed I saw Dunn's name, but I didn't see where this all roots from?

 

It was on ESPN or something, i do beleive.

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I noticed my title was changed to "or Dunn"...? Was there actually speculation that a deal for Dunn is even being discussed, let alone "close"? Quickly browsing through all the pages I missed I saw Dunn's name, but I didn't see where this all roots from?

 

Levine reported it on ESPN 1000 saying that the Cubs were talking to both Texas and Cincy about Soriano and Dunn.

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I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

 

Suzuki as in Ichiro? Is that even the slightest bit possible?

 

I think that Seattle moving Ichiro is as unlikely a thing as you would see.

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I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

 

Suzuki as in Ichiro? Is that even the slightest bit possible?

 

I think that Seattle moving Ichiro is as unlikely a thing as you would see.

 

Thats what I thought.

 

I wouldnt be willing to give up what it would take to get him. Unless hendry pulls off some miracle worthy of regocnition and enshrinment in the holy roman catholic church.

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I noticed my title was changed to "or Dunn"...? Was there actually speculation that a deal for Dunn is even being discussed, let alone "close"? Quickly browsing through all the pages I missed I saw Dunn's name, but I didn't see where this all roots from?

 

Levine reported it on ESPN 1000 saying that the Cubs were talking to both Texas and Cincy about Soriano and Dunn.

 

I see. Well, I'll join the crowded opinion of "Dunn please!!"

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I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

 

Suzuki as in Ichiro? Is that even the slightest bit possible?

 

I think that Seattle moving Ichiro is as unlikely a thing as you would see.

 

It's the knid of move Hendry likes to make out of the blue. I agree he's a fixture there but IMO he would be a nice fit in the leadoff spot for the Cubs. Seattle needs pitching and the Cubs have plenty of it, unless as you say...or I think you're saying....the Mariners just want to keep Ichiro as the face of the organization and not improve the team.

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I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

 

Suzuki as in Ichiro? Is that even the slightest bit possible?

 

I think that Seattle moving Ichiro is as unlikely a thing as you would see.

 

Thats what I thought.

 

I wouldnt be willing to give up what it would take to get him. Unless hendry pulls off some miracle worthy of regocnition and enshrinment in the holy roman catholic church.

 

Jimmy H is pretty sneaky that way!

 

I suppose it's more my wish list than anything.

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I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

 

Suzuki as in Ichiro? Is that even the slightest bit possible?

 

I think that Seattle moving Ichiro is as unlikely a thing as you would see.

 

It's the knid of move Hendry likes to make out of the blue. I agree he's a fixture there but IMO he would be a nice fit in the leadoff spot for the Cubs. Seattle needs pitching and the Cubs have plenty of it, unless as you say...or I think you're saying....the Mariners just want to keep Ichiro as the face of the organization and not improve the team.

 

The M's could trade Ibanez and/or Moyer for young pitching. Ichiro is the fixture in Seattle, who has a lot of Japanese ties. We'd have to pay an exorbitant price for the Mariners to even consider it.

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I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

 

Suzuki as in Ichiro? Is that even the slightest bit possible?

 

I think that Seattle moving Ichiro is as unlikely a thing as you would see.

 

Thats what I thought.

 

I wouldnt be willing to give up what it would take to get him. Unless hendry pulls off some miracle worthy of regocnition and enshrinment in the holy roman catholic church.

 

Jimmy H is pretty sneaky that way!

 

I suppose it's more my wish list than anything.

 

Very true. But, Thats still getting close to impossible in my opinion. I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to see it happen though. But it seems like a pipe dream to me.

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I want Dunn and Suzuki. Move Burnitz and a ton of pitching and OF prospects too.

 

Suzuki as in Ichiro? Is that even the slightest bit possible?

 

I think that Seattle moving Ichiro is as unlikely a thing as you would see.

 

It's the knid of move Hendry likes to make out of the blue. I agree he's a fixture there but IMO he would be a nice fit in the leadoff spot for the Cubs. Seattle needs pitching and the Cubs have plenty of it, unless as you say...or I think you're saying....the Mariners just want to keep Ichiro as the face of the organization and not improve the team.

 

The M's could trade Ibanez and/or Moyer for young pitching. Ichiro is the fixture in Seattle, who has a lot of Japanese ties. We'd have to pay an exorbitant price for the Mariners to even consider it.

 

Crushing my dream of Dunn in LF and Ichiro in Right are ya? =P~

 

I just have a feeling if Hendry makes a deal it'll be one we haven't thought of yet or mentioned lately.

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The M's could trade Ibanez and/or Moyer for young pitching. Ichiro is the fixture in Seattle, who has a lot of Japanese ties. We'd have to pay an exorbitant price for the Mariners to even consider it.

 

Ichiro just got a 4/44 extension. I'd be absolutely shocked if he didn't get a No Trade Clause as well.

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The M's could trade Ibanez and/or Moyer for young pitching. Ichiro is the fixture in Seattle, who has a lot of Japanese ties. We'd have to pay an exorbitant price for the Mariners to even consider it.

 

Ichiro just got a 4/44 extension. I'd be absolutely shocked if he didn't get a No Trade Clause as well.

 

If he did get that clause, I might classify him as the least likely player in MLB to be successfully traded.

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The M's could trade Ibanez and/or Moyer for young pitching. Ichiro is the fixture in Seattle, who has a lot of Japanese ties. We'd have to pay an exorbitant price for the Mariners to even consider it.

 

Ichiro just got a 4/44 extension. I'd be absolutely shocked if he didn't get a No Trade Clause as well.

 

If he did get that clause, I might classify him as the least likely player in MLB to be successfully traded.

 

I dont SEE one in his contract. Unless it just isnt listed there:

 

Ichiro Suzuki of

4 years/$44M (2004-07)

 

* $6M signing bonus

* 04:$5M, 05:$11M, 06:$11M, 07:$11M; avoided arbitration 12/03

* housing allowance ($28,000 in 04, $29,000 in 05, $30,000 in 06, $31,000 in 07)

* interpreter, trainer, ground transportation for Spring Training & regular season

* 4 annual round-trip airline tickets from Seattle to Japan

* $1.5M in incentives for PAs:

o $50,000 each for 400 PAs, 2004-06

$0.1M each for 500 & 600 PAs, 2004-06

$0.1M for 400 PAs, 2007

$0.2M for 500 & 600 PAs, 2007

 

* $50,000 All Star incentive

* 3 years/$14.088M (2001-03)

* $5M signing bonus, 01:$5M, 02:$2M, 03:$3M

* $7M deferred with interest ($4M of bonus, $2M of 2001 salary, $1M of 2003 salary)

* incentives: 01:$2M, 02:$3M, plus $0.125M All Star incentive

* Seattle paid $13M for negotiating rights with Ichiro

* agent: Tony Attanasio

* ML service: 4.000

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