There will be be more trades... right?

[Schwarber Fan]

You gotta think there is another OF coming. This Gerut deal can't be it???

[CubsFan4Life]

Or....can it? If we can get Pierre, great, I don't see us getting any other OFer, we just need one more guy in the pen and we'd be fine there especially now that'd we'll be getting Williamson.

[YearofDaCubs]

There has to be another trade good or bad. We have a plethora of OF right now.

[Roast]

There has to be another trade good or bad. We have a plethora of OF right now.

 

Agreed. Something is going to happen. Our current outfield looks like this:

 

Hairston

Burnitz

Murton

Greenberg(DL)

Greive

Hollandsworth

Gerut

 

 

Thats SEVEN outfielders. Six if you dont count Greenberg. I think one of Gerut/Hollandsworth/Hairston is going to be traded.

 

Also, hendry was quick to mention that gerut could play center. Maybe he is planning on trading CPatt (our 8th outfielder) to someone soon.

[Roast]

Or....can it? If we can get Pierre, great, I don't see us getting any other OFer, we just need one more guy in the pen and we'd be fine there especially now that'd we'll be getting Williamson.

 

I have to disagree. Offensivley, our outfield still sucks pretty badly. Gerut adds nothing offensivley. Defensively, he's an upgrade. But offensivley, he's Ben Greive. Not to mention the fact we have seventybillion outfielders, something has to be coming.

[rocket]

There has to be another trade good or bad. We have a plethora of OF right now.

 

Agreed. Something is going to happen. Our current outfield looks like this:

 

Hairston

Burnitz

Murton

Greenberg(DL)

Greive

Hollandsworth

Gerut

 

 

Thats SEVEN outfielders. Six if you dont count Greenberg. I think one of Gerut/Hollandsworth/Hairston is going to be traded.

 

Also, hendry was quick to mention that gerut could play center. Maybe he is planning on trading CPatt (our 8th outfielder) to someone soon.

 

But if Grieve or Murton go back to the minors, we're back in the same situation as before. I don't think this trade necessarily means another trade is imminent, though I refuse to believe Hendry is done.

[JC]

I think the Gerut deal was a precursor to something else. I don't know how if could factor into a deal for Moises, but I still think that could be a possibility, though I don't know how his All Star comments played out in Tribune Tower.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Agreed. Something is going to happen. Our current outfield looks like this:

 

Hairston

Burnitz

Murton

Greenberg(DL)

Greive

Hollandsworth

Gerut

 

 

Thats SEVEN outfielders. Six if you dont count Greenberg. I think one of Gerut/Hollandsworth/Hairston is going to be traded.

 

Also, hendry was quick to mention that gerut could play center. Maybe he is planning on trading CPatt (our 8th outfielder) to someone soon.

 

You guys are making this tougher than it needs to be.

 

First of all, Hairston is an infielder playing CF and all indications are he may be out the door before too long.

 

Second of all, Grieve is ROSTER FILL. He's beyond expendable. Why anybody is worrying what Hendry will do with him is beyond me.

 

Third, Greenberg will be back in AA if he is able to play again this year. If he was healthy, Grieve wouldn't even be in Chicago and Greenberg would be on his way back to West Tenn right now.

 

That leaves:

 

Hollandsworth

Murton

Burnitz

Gerut

 

Throw in Hairston and you've got five ML outfielders.

 

If Hairston gets dealt either CP or Pie comes up. If Dunn gets picked up Murton's going back down. Don't see a problem with that.

[10man]

After Sosa was traded we all thought it the first step to another major trade. Of course all we got after was one Jeromy Burnitz...

[Roast]

 

First of all, Hairston is an infielder playing CF and all indications are he may be out the door before too long.

 

 

:shock: Do I hear an echo?

 

 

Thats SEVEN outfielders. Six if you dont count Greenberg. I think one of Gerut/Hollandsworth/Hairston is going to be traded.

 

[UMFan83]

Funny we have all these outfielders, and not one is more then average at their position

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I doubt Hendry is done. Hopefully he doesn't think the OF is good as is.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

There has to be another trade good or bad. We have a plethora of OF right now.

 

Agreed. Something is going to happen. Our current outfield looks like this:

 

Hairston

Burnitz

Murton

Greenberg(DL)

Greive

Hollandsworth

Gerut

 

 

Thats SEVEN outfielders. Six if you dont count Greenberg. I think one of Gerut/Hollandsworth/Hairston is going to be traded.

 

Also, hendry was quick to mention that gerut could play center. Maybe he is planning on trading CPatt (our 8th outfielder) to someone soon.

 

or someone is going back down (maybe even two somebodies).

[wastra]

Gerut seems like insurance to me. I don't think they ever expected Greenberg to stay up all year. If they expected Patterson to return, they'd just keep going with what they had until he did.

 

If they DIDN'T expect him to return, they would need to get someone else who can play a little CF. That's Gerut. That allows them to send Greenberg back down when healthy and still have a backup CF.

 

 

I don't think this is a precursor OR the main deal- it's just a deal that hendry thought improved the team. Now, if a further deal IS made, gerut provides a tad bit on insurance for us if one of the people going out is an outfielder on our current roster.

 

But if Cincy or someone else wanted gerut, they could have had him directly pretty easily without getting the Cubs involved. Dubois wasn't exactly a hot commodity (I'm not trashing him, just saying it's not like we traded a Felix Pie level prospect for Gerut).

[Backtobanks]

Gerut seems like insurance to me. I don't think they ever expected Greenberg to stay up all year. If they expected Patterson to return, they'd just keep going with what they had until he did.

 

If they DIDN'T expect him to return, they would need to get someone else who can play a little CF. That's Gerut. That allows them to send Greenberg back down when healthy and still have a backup CF.

 

 

I don't think this is a precursor OR the main deal- it's just a deal that hendry thought improved the team. Now, if a further deal IS made, gerut provides a tad bit on insurance for us if one of the people going out is an outfielder on our current roster.

 

But if Cincy or someone else wanted gerut, they could have had him directly pretty easily without getting the Cubs involved. Dubois wasn't exactly a hot commodity (I'm not trashing him, just saying it's not like we traded a Felix Pie level prospect for Gerut).

 

I totally agree. Hendry picked up a decent piece of insurance for someone who didn't fit in the Cubs' plans. I do think that Hendry will make at least one more deal, but I don't think this has anything to do with the next one. He got a part-time OF/pinch-hitter who can play good defense. Case closed.

[CuseCubFan69]

This is a late 70 early 80 type of Cub OF right now (not a compliment) and I'm hoping that Hendry will be upgrading it with a major trade. I'm looking forward to seeing Murton traded for a hacker/toolsy(JC) type of player.

[MPrior]

Just a possibility:

 

Hendry is picking up Gerut as a long-term type solution. Remember, all this talk about his "career" stats is a little misleading, since he's only had one season that wasn't weighted down with injury: 2003. Which was, by the way, a very good season. So the guy clearly has potential - I think more than we're giving him credit for. And we traded Dubois, who - as much as I love him - was not needed in the organization at the time, and doesn't look to fit into the long term solution either.

 

Secondly, Hendry loves to do this sort of thing: get somebody who can be good when their value is low. He's always said that he thought DLee was gonna blossom into a better player, and look: he was right. Aramis Ramirez had one good season (just like Gerut), and Hendry picked him up without giving up too much, and now look. Barret was similar, although the results are not as striking. Hendry also said earlier that he was looking for long term help, not just rentals.

 

Next, think about Gerut himself: he is a good defensive player - something we need; he's pretty cheap, which is nice; and he has good plate discipline, which is the aspect of a young player's game (and no, he's not real young, but he's still developing) that is most singularly predictive of his potential in the majors.

 

I think we may not be giving Gerut as big a chance as he deserves.

[Laura]

Welcome to the forums, MPrior! :)

[Illini Iceman]

This is a late 70 early 80 type of Cub OF right now (not a compliment) and I'm hoping that Hendry will be upgrading it with a major trade. I'm looking forward to seeing Murton traded for a hacker/toolsy(JC) type of player.

 

Jerry Martin was solid! :lol:

[Backtobanks]

Just a possibility:

 

Hendry is picking up Gerut as a long-term type solution. Remember, all this talk about his "career" stats is a little misleading, since he's only had one season that wasn't weighted down with injury: 2003. Which was, by the way, a very good season. So the guy clearly has potential - I think more than we're giving him credit for. And we traded Dubois, who - as much as I love him - was not needed in the organization at the time, and doesn't look to fit into the long term solution either.

 

Secondly, Hendry loves to do this sort of thing: get somebody who can be good when their value is low. He's always said that he thought DLee was gonna blossom into a better player, and look: he was right. Aramis Ramirez had one good season (just like Gerut), and Hendry picked him up without giving up too much, and now look. Barret was similar, although the results are not as striking. Hendry also said earlier that he was looking for long term help, not just rentals.

 

Next, think about Gerut himself: he is a good defensive player - something we need; he's pretty cheap, which is nice; and he has good plate discipline, which is the aspect of a young player's game (and no, he's not real young, but he's still developing) that is most singularly predictive of his potential in the majors.

 

I think we may not be giving Gerut as big a chance as he deserves.

 

In last night's game, Kaspar & Brenley pointed out the brace on Gerut's knee and said he was only about 75% back from the surgery. He could end up being a good acquisition if and when he fully recovers.

[frostwyrm]

I don't think Gerut will help us this year. He's been terrible since May and his knee is still screwed up. As a long-term project you could argue that he'll be a different player when he comes back with a healed knee next spring, but for this season I would just leave him in the minors where he could play every day.

[biittner77]

This is a late 70 early 80 type of Cub OF right now (not a compliment) and I'm hoping that Hendry will be upgrading it with a major trade. I'm looking forward to seeing Murton traded for a hacker/toolsy(JC) type of player.

 

I wish Hollandsworth was as good as Larry Biittner.

[neely crenshaw]

how about hairston/gerult for pierre? hairstin fills in cf for them, he is cheaper and also gives them another cheap ofer to replace mr marlin jeff conine at the end of this season. although i am sure the fish will want pitching to replace the arms they keep giving away to save cash

[biittner77]

how about hairston/gerult for pierre? hairstin fills in cf for them, he is cheaper and also gives them another cheap ofer to replace mr marlin jeff conine at the end of this season. although i am sure the fish will want pitching to replace the arms they keep giving away to save cash

 

Pierre's season thus far

 

.271avg.--- .318obp---.357slg

 

The only good thing to say about that is his CS is only 7 out of 35.

 

I'd rather stick with Hairston, play Gerut or bring back Patterson all of whom could provide equal or better production.