Cubs (Boyd) vs Cardinals (May): 7/29/26, 6:45pm

[Jason Ross]

1 minute ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

I’m of those dorks. But yeah, there’s something wrong with their methodology when Nico has a higher war than Juan Soto (2025). Thanks for bullying me into preferring Fangraphs BTW (in a good way).

I think both certainly have a place. B-Ref is great for talking about why Dave Steib belongs in the Hall of Fame or for looking up the 1996 Chicago Cubs opening day roster. And Fangraphs is better for why Juan Soto was a better player than Nico Hoerner in 2025 (even if I think Nico Hoerner is a killer player) or prospect evaluations. 

I got bullied into FanGraphs years ago myself. I believe my first post on ProSportsDaily back in, oh, 2006 was talking about Jacques Jones and his RBI production. Good thing that website died and that opinion was scrubbed from internet history.

[Geographyhater8888]

26 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I think both certainly have a place. B-Ref is great for talking about why Dave Steib belongs in the Hall of Fame or for looking up the 1996 Chicago Cubs opening day roster. And Fangraphs is better for why Juan Soto was a better player than Nico Hoerner in 2025 (even if I think Nico Hoerner is a killer player) or prospect evaluations. 

I got bullied into FanGraphs years ago myself. I believe my first post on ProSportsDaily back in, oh, 2006 was talking about Jacques Jones and his RBI production. Good thing that website died and that opinion was scrubbed from internet history.

I do like the SOS adjustments. Using some version of third order win percentage and incorporating it into run value is a cool concept. A 2.5 ERA in the AL east in 2005 should carry more weight than a 2.5 ERA in the NL west with the division winning 82 win Padres beating up on intra divisional scrubs when assigning value to a player. 
 

I was more of a Todd Walker guy and loved 305 his batting average. He didn’t get enough respect in MVP baseball 2005. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Geographyhater8888

[CubUgly]

9 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

It was ****** but he gave up a GB that is an out most of the time, and another weak grounder.  The walk and the double (and falling behind Walker) were pretty ****** though

Yeah, y'all have been telling me here all year the underlying data says Thornton's run was going to end badly, but he kept producing so I was not as upset as some he came in when he did.  In fact he's been very effective in the very same situation multiple times this year and not even let the Manfred man in.

And yes there was some bad luck, that 5-hop infield hit was not hit hard just to the perfect spot.  But then he walks the guy - no one to blame but him there - so that all it takes was one hard hit ball, and game over.  Tough loss. 

[JunkyardWalrus]

1 hour ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

I was more of a Todd Walker guy and loved 305 his batting average. He didn’t get enough respect in MVP baseball 2005. 

Most goddam true thing I've read on the internet.

Edited 1 hour ago by JunkyardWalrus
Format

[Derwood]

Games are blown during the course of the season, but it's annoying when a) Boyd pitched a gem, b) PCA pimped the hell out of a go-ahead HR, and c) Milwaukee got away with being shoved 

[Geographyhater8888]

4 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Games are blown during the course of the season, but it's annoying when a) Boyd pitched a gem, b) PCA pimped the hell out of a go-ahead HR, and c) Milwaukee got away with being shoved 

Taillon single handedly costing them another 2 games on top of last night in a span of Less than 2 weeks makes it annoying. They could easily be 4 back of the division and they’ve played a lot better than their 7-5 team.