Cubs (Boyd) vs Cardinals (May): 7/29/26, 6:45pm

[Jason Ross]

1 minute ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

I’m of those dorks. But yeah, there’s something wrong with their methodology when Nico has a higher war than Juan Soto (2025). Thanks for bullying me into preferring Fangraphs BTW (in a good way).

I think both certainly have a place. B-Ref is great for talking about why Dave Steib belongs in the Hall of Fame or for looking up the 1996 Chicago Cubs opening day roster. And Fangraphs is better for why Juan Soto was a better player than Nico Hoerner in 2025 (even if I think Nico Hoerner is a killer player) or prospect evaluations. 

I got bullied into FanGraphs years ago myself. I believe my first post on ProSportsDaily back in, oh, 2006 was talking about Jacques Jones and his RBI production. Good thing that website died and that opinion was scrubbed from internet history.

[Geographyhater8888]

26 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I think both certainly have a place. B-Ref is great for talking about why Dave Steib belongs in the Hall of Fame or for looking up the 1996 Chicago Cubs opening day roster. And Fangraphs is better for why Juan Soto was a better player than Nico Hoerner in 2025 (even if I think Nico Hoerner is a killer player) or prospect evaluations. 

I got bullied into FanGraphs years ago myself. I believe my first post on ProSportsDaily back in, oh, 2006 was talking about Jacques Jones and his RBI production. Good thing that website died and that opinion was scrubbed from internet history.

I do like the SOS adjustments. Using some version of third order win percentage and incorporating it into run value is a cool concept. A 2.5 ERA in the AL east in 2005 should carry more weight than a 2.5 ERA in the NL west with the division winning 82 win Padres beating up on intra divisional scrubs when assigning value to a player. 
 

I was more of a Todd Walker guy and loved 305 his batting average. He didn’t get enough respect in MVP baseball 2005. 

Edited 41 minutes ago by Geographyhater8888