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So uh, this is probably gonna be the worst Cardinals team in the modern era?  Like they've gotta be in real danger of losing 100 games by the time this purge is complete.

Like next year is gonna be Wynn and Nootbar and Liberatore and a lot of yuck.

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9 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Arenado and Contreras out with no significant signings. What a time to be a Cardinals fan LOL

i didnt realize Contreras got shipped out. Hard to believe he's 33. Man he's had a pretty cool career, late bloomer prospect, impact bat on a world series team. Fair bet to end his career north of 30 fWAR, which would rank in the top 10-12 catchers this century

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I never would have believed it a few years ago, but it looks like Arenado is going to end up in the hall very good instead of the hall of fame. He's sitting on 51.6 career fWAR, coming off a .9 fWAR season and he's going to be just shy of 35 years old on opening day.

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20 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I never would have believed it a few years ago, but it looks like Arenado is going to end up in the hall very good instead of the hall of fame. He's sitting on 51.6 career fWAR, coming off a .9 fWAR season and he's going to be just shy of 35 years old on opening day.

Yeah, he aged really badly the last couple seasons.

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On 1/13/2026 at 1:31 PM, Tryptamine said:

I never would have believed it a few years ago, but it looks like Arenado is going to end up in the hall very good instead of the hall of fame. He's sitting on 51.6 career fWAR, coming off a .9 fWAR season and he's going to be just shy of 35 years old on opening day.

I'm not a really big fan of HOF stuff. I think he's a lock, but not a first-ballot one. Multi-gold glover, platinum glover, good power numbers. He was considered the best 3B in MLB for at least 5 years. 

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On 1/13/2026 at 12:31 PM, Tryptamine said:

I never would have believed it a few years ago, but it looks like Arenado is going to end up in the hall very good instead of the hall of fame. He's sitting on 51.6 career fWAR, coming off a .9 fWAR season and he's going to be just shy of 35 years old on opening day.

There's a reasonable argument to be made that the COVID-shortened 2020 season significantly impacted his chances. That was his age 29 season, sandwiched in between a bunch of seasons where he put up 4-7 fWAR. And he put up 0.6 in 2020.

If he's a close call for people (and I imagine he will be), there's going to be a number of people willing to assume his career numbers should have been sufficient absent a global pandemic, and those people will vote accordingly.

Honestly, I anticipate that argument being used as cover frequently as writers navigate what to do with the modern crop of starting pitchers who lack the traditional counting stats. So as that argument becomes more commonplace, I think more people apply it to Arenado. I think he gets there, even if it takes a Veteran's Era committee to make it happen.

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Considering Willson Contreras freaked out last year against the Cubs and he has history with the club, I can’t wait to see what horsefeathers he pulls against the Yankees as a member of the Red Sox. 

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