Cardinals (Fedde) vs Cubs (Assad): 8/2/24, 1:20pm

[LBiittner]

This could get away from us quickly

[Cubbies1996]

Safe to say Assad is not a long term starter for this club.

[mfcubs22]

Oof. Come on Javy.

[Tryptamine]

Just now, CubinNY said:

I think they did (as well as other teams) and they didn't want to give up Walker. 

Walker's value has plummeted. He'd be lucky to be a 2nd piece in a trade. He's not sporting a 77 wRC+ in AAA. 

[CubinNY]

Assad is going to strike out this tomato can. 

[Tryptamine]

Assad just isn't it. 

[731.4life]

1 minute ago, CubinNY said:

I think they did (as well as other teams) and they didn't want to give up Walker. 

Which I think is odd. Walker is continually to struggle to lift the ball. He only has 6 home runs in AAA-Memphis. Which Memphis' ballpark is a home run destined park with the humidity in Tennessee.

I think the Cardinals didn't want to trade for Soto because they didn't want to give up either Carlson or Gorman. Which one player just got traded to Tampa Bay, and the other isn't in the lineup.

[UMFan83]

Assad trying to give it right back

[Brock Beauchamp]

It wasn't particularly pretty but got out of it.

[KCCub]

Phew, that could of been a lot worse

[Tryptamine]

Limited damage, but Assad should not see the 4th inning and he should by no means be guaranteed a rotation spot in 2025.

[WhyCantWeWin]

Wonder who gets sent to the bullpen first between Assad and Hendricks when Wicks and Brown come back

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Just now, WhyCantWeWin said:

Wicks and Brown

are dead

[mul21]

1 minute ago, Tryptamine said:

Limited damage, but Assad should not see the 4th inning and he should by no means be guaranteed a rotation spot in 2025.

I don't think he's right after the IL stint.  He hasn't been able to locate since he came back and that was a strong suit before he went down.

[731.4life]

1 minute ago, WhyCantWeWin said:

Wonder who gets sent to the bullpen first between Assad and Hendricks when Wicks and Brown come back

Wicks is likely done. Don't know about Brown. Hendricks will likely stay throughout the season.

[LBiittner]

3 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Limited damage, but Assad should not see the 4th inning and he should by no means be guaranteed a rotation spot in 2025.

How many quality starts does he have?

Edited August 2, 2024 by LBiittner

[Tryptamine]

Just now, LBiittner said:

How many quality starts does he have?9

4. He's also only made it 6 innings 4 times. 

[Irrelevant Dude]

14 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Busch growing into a 25-30 HR hitter would not suck

He is going to HAVE to if he keeps striking out as much as he has.  I like Busch a lot, and his numbers are good overall, but the strikeouts are concerning.

[LBiittner]

Just now, Tryptamine said:

4. He's also only made it 6 innings 4 times. 

Ouch. Then I agree very much with you

[Tryptamine]

Just now, LBiittner said:

Ouch. Then I agree very much with you

Frankly his peripherals kind of suck and he relies on some type of outlier ability to strand runners at a consistent 85% rate which is like 10% over what most pitchers do.

[Tank]

5 minutes ago, 731.4life said:

Which I think is odd. Walker is continually to struggle to lift the ball. He only has 6 home runs in AAA-Memphis. Which Memphis' ballpark is a home run destined park with the humidity in Tennessee.

I think the Cardinals didn't want to trade for Soto because they didn't want to give up either Carlson or Gorman. Which one player just got traded to Tampa Bay, and the other isn't in the lineup.

Mozeliak's mismanagement of his assets has been a beautiful thing to watch. Their rotation is still reeling from trading Gallen and Alcantara for two years of Ozuna. 

[LBiittner]

Sounds like maybe bullpen is his calling after all 

[Rex Buckingham]

I agree that he's probably not totally healthy... but if he's just a 2-3 inning guy out of the pen, that's really valuable to have with a rotation that will likely rely on a young guy or two next year

[731.4life]

5 of the 97 Assad pitches are swing and misses.

Edited August 2, 2024 by 731.4life

[Tryptamine]

Just now, Rex Buckingham said:

I agree that he's probably not totally healthy... but if he's just a 2-3 inning guy out of the pen, that's really valuable to have with a rotation that will likely rely on a young guy or two next year

For sure, but it also means you probably need to go get a starter in FA. You can't rely on all of Steele/Shota/Taillon/Brown/Wicks to stay healthy, especially the later two.