Week 2 - Bears at Bucs noon on Fox

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I said it at the time: Letting Ryan Pace trade up for a QB a second-time is the kind of decision that destroys a franchise for a decade.

[minnesotacubsfan]

4 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I say with confidence,  that unless this season rapidly turns around,  he is 100% gone by season's end. Poles I am a lot more doubtful. 

I can’t believe that an NFL ownership group would keep either Poles or Flus after the past 2 years, but then again it’s McCaskey

[UMFan83]

O/U on Tyson Bagent starts this year 1.5

[UMFan83]

2 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

I can’t believe that an NFL ownership group would keep either Poles or Flus after the past 2 years, but then again it’s McCaskey

With regards to Poles, its usually a pretty bad look to fire a FO after just 2 seasons, especially when you approved (I think) a rebuild/tank in year 1, though I guess Warren wasn't around when that was approved and he didn't hire Poles.  Though its hard to imagine they let him hire a second coach after the first one was considered against the grain and turned into a complete trainwreck.

Edited September 17, 2023 by UMFan83

[Hairyducked Idiot]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

O/U on Tyson Bagent starts this year 1.5

Over.  But Fields won't be outright benched, he'll just get hurt at some point.

[minnesotacubsfan]

1 minute ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Over.  But Fields won't be outright benched, he'll just get hurt at some point.

Yea, he gets hit so much it’s nearly impossible to think he won’t get hurt

[UMFan83]

Just now, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Over.  But Fields won't be outright benched, he'll just get hurt at some point.

How certain are you that they wouldn't go to their backup QB Nathan Peterman in the event of an injury? Like if Fields is hurt and cant play within the first 10 games of the season I could see them going with their veteran (which would be ridiculous but its Eberflus we're talking about).  If its later in the season and the Bears are long since eliminated, I can then see them go to Bagent

[jersey cubs fan]

He’s not him 

[minnesotacubsfan]

2 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

With regards to Poles, its usually a pretty bad look to fire a FO after just 2 seasons, especially when you approved (I think) a rebuild/tank in year 1, though I guess Warren wasn't around when that was approved and he didn't hire Poles.  Though its hard to imagine they let him hire a second coach after the first one was considered against the grain and turned into a complete trainwreck.

Forget about the HC hire, what about his complete disregarding the FA off seasons. Poles doesn’t know how to build a team.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

How certain are you that they wouldn't go to their backup QB Nathan Peterman in the event of an injury? Like if Fields is hurt and cant play within the first 10 games of the season I could see them going with their veteran (which would be ridiculous but its Eberflus we're talking about).  If its later in the season and the Bears are long since eliminated, I can then see them go to Bagent

 Medium certain.  I wouldn't be drop-dead shocked if they went with Peterson, but I think they'd rather see Bagent.

[minnesotacubsfan]

1 minute ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

 Medium certain.  I wouldn't be drop-dead shocked if they went with Peterson, but I think they'd rather see Bagent.

If the coaching staff had a future here, sure. But since they’ve 100% bagged the season and their careers, why bother looking at a rookie?

[Tryptamine]

2 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

 Medium certain.  I wouldn't be drop-dead shocked if they went with Peterson, but I think they'd rather see Bagent.

He's coaching for his job, it will be Peterman. He doesn't care about the future. 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

1 minute ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

Forget about the HC hire, what about his complete disregarding the FA off seasons. Poles doesn’t know how to build a team.

I love the way he chases value with acccumulating draft picks.  I hate the way he uses those picks.  I started worrying the moment he went DB-DB-gadget with his first three picks in his first draft.

9 picks in the top 4 rounds the last two seasons.  3 DB, 2 DT, 2 WR, 1 RB, 1 OT.  Interior offensive line and edge rushers are literally whoever we can pick up off the street in August, but gotta get that second second-round CB in two years.

[UMFan83]

Check the date

[Hairyducked Idiot]

2 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

He's coaching for his job, it will be Peterman. He doesn't care about the future. 

Do they think Peterman gives them a better chance to win? I thought he was only here for clipboard duties.

[Tryptamine]

1 minute ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Do they think Peterman gives them a better chance to win? I thought he was only here for clipboard duties.

He's a known commodity.  That is all Eberflus will care about.

[minnesotacubsfan]

3 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I love the way he chases value with acccumulating draft picks.  I hate the way he uses those picks.  I started worrying the moment he went DB-DB-gadget with his first three picks in his first draft.

9 picks in the top 4 rounds the last two seasons.  3 DB, 2 DT, 2 WR, 1 RB, 1 OT.  Interior offensive line and edge rushers are literally whoever we can pick up off the street in August, but gotta get that second second-round CB in two years.

Sure, and that’s justhis  draft. Look at last his first FA period - wooof

[SpongeWorthy]

14 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

With regards to Poles, its usually a pretty bad look to fire a FO after just 2 seasons, especially when you approved (I think) a rebuild/tank in year 1, though I guess Warren wasn't around when that was approved and he didn't hire Poles.  Though its hard to imagine they let him hire a second coach after the first one was considered against the grain and turned into a complete trainwreck.

did poles really hire flus though? he was hired like two days after poles was hired and yeah I’m sure it came up during poles interview process but it seems like it was foisted on him

would anyone who grew up in and around the reid/mahomes chiefs be like “yeah gotta get a defensive guy to coach my team and young qb”

I always felt poles went along with flus because there are only so many GM jobs and he was given assurances of getting a chance to get his own qb/hc combo if the fields/eberflus thing didn’t work out

 

 

[UMFan83]

9 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Do they think Peterman gives them a better chance to win? I thought he was only here for clipboard duties.

I would think he’s the backup for a reason. The coaching staff believes he is a better bet to play in the event of a Fields injury. It’s possible they just don’t want Bagent to come in during the middle of a game to make his debut. But that’s why I think it would only be Bagent if Fields is hurt after the season is lost (or once Peterman comes in and plays like…well Peterman)

[Wilson A2000]

15 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

He's coaching for his job, it will be Peterman. He doesn't care about the future. 

I think the coaches know Bagent gives them a better chance of winning. There’s at least a chance Bagent is good after seeing what he did in the preseason. There’s no chance Peterman is good.

[jersey cubs fan]

Brian Daboll might be available 

Edited September 17, 2023 by jersey cubs fan

[Wilson A2000]

57 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

It’s insane that Poles thought he was the best choice for HC. Or even the “hiring” committee thought Poles was the best choice

They have the same agent. Maybe they were buds or something.

[minnesotacubsfan]

32 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Do they think Peterman gives them a better chance to win? I thought he was only here for clipboard duties.

Since when has this coaching staff been worried about winning?

[minnesotacubsfan]

9 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

They have the same agent. Maybe they were buds or something.

If common agent was how Poles made the hire, then he is an idiot

[Proven Veteran]

1 hour ago, d_money said:

There must be some crazy level of incompetence when entering Halas Hall. It seems like veryones brain turns into mush 

Maybe they have a radon leak in the building.