8/26 - Cubs (Wicks) vs Pirates (Selby): 6:15pm, Marquee

[WhyCantWeWin]

Why tf did Suzuki bring that ball back into play

[Irrelevant Dude]

Can't even hold onto an 8-1 lead. This team is running on fumes.

Edited August 27, 2023 by Irrelevant Dude

[Rex Buckingham]

oof, Seiya what are you doing?

[UMFan83]

The Cubs have won just 1 game by more than 2 runs since August 2nd, and that was 15 games ago.

[WhyCantWeWin]

Demote Wesneski and call up Little

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I've only been half-heartedly paying attention while watching the soccer game, why would we be upset at Seiya, it's not his job to wait on the umpire or change his behavior based on the call

[Rex Buckingham]

huge K

[Rex Buckingham]

Just now, Transmogrified Tiger said:

I've only been half-heartedly paying attention while watching the soccer game, why would we be upset at Seiya, it's not his job to wait on the umpire or change his behavior based on the call

I thought it was fairly obvious it was going to land out of play, but he reached over the fence and grabbed it, costing a run

[UMFan83]

Not sure if it would mattered but I adamantly thought Wesneski should have been pulled before facing Hayes.  He clearly didn't have it that inning.  I understand the Cubs situation and the need to steal outs but lately it seems like the Cubs are incapable of stealing those extra outs.

[s2obed]

This pen will be burnt out in September. That could be the diff in securing a playoff spot. 

[Dfan25]

IDK who they can bring up from AAA but it may be time for Wesneski to go down .

[Andy]

1 hour ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

That's what the broadcast said, but Cashner did get one start before he was traded.

To double back to this briefly, Verducci said it was the most anticipated debut for a Cubs first round pitcher since Prior, which did lead me to wonder if we'd even seen one since him.

[UMFan83]

Here I am yet again sitting at my TV stressing about getting the final 6 outs of a game.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

5 minutes ago, Rex Buckingham said:

I thought it was fairly obvious it was going to land out of play, but he reached over the fence and grabbed it, costing a run

I haven't re-watched every replay angle to know the exact geometry, but I have zero problem with it.  Not fielding the ball because you're assuming it's going to be out of play is exactly the type of attempt that is not only counter to every defensive instinct, but is a big gamble given the circumstances that they're desperate to stop the bleeding of a 4+ run inning.

[Rex Buckingham]

2 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

I haven't re-watched every replay angle to know the exact geometry, but I have zero problem with it.  Not fielding the ball because you're assuming it's going to be out of play is exactly the type of attempt that is not only counter to every defensive instinct, but is a big gamble given the circumstances that they're desperate to stop the bleeding of a 4+ run inning.

fair point

[UMFan83]

So this is the 3rd recent game I can remember Leiter coming into the game mid-inning to stop a rally and immediately giving up an RBI hit to the first batter.  One was that Toronto game that we needed the late Morel hit to win.  He came in with 2 outs and a runner on first and immediately gave up a double to tie it.  The other I think was that game against the Royals where they chipped away and turned a 6-1 lead into a 6-4 game.  Possibly just SSS, but maybe he's not the best guy to come into a jam to get a key out. 

Now I'll wait for everyone to bring up examples of other times he's come in to get a key out that I forgot about because my brain will only allow me to think about negative outcomes.

Edited August 27, 2023 by UMFan83

[UMFan83]

7 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

I haven't re-watched every replay angle to know the exact geometry, but I have zero problem with it.  Not fielding the ball because you're assuming it's going to be out of play is exactly the type of attempt that is not only counter to every defensive instinct, but is a big gamble given the circumstances that they're desperate to stop the bleeding of a 4+ run inning.

I swear to God if I asked TT to prove that 2+2 = 47, he'd somehow find a way to convince me.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

So this is the 3rd recent game I can remember Leiter coming into the game mid-inning to stop a rally and immediately giving up an RBI hit to the first batter.  One was that Toronto game that we needed the late Morel hit to win.  He came in with 2 outs and a runner on first and immediately gave up a double to tie it.  The other I think was that game against the Royals where they chipped away and turned a 6-1 lead into a 6-4 game.  Possibly just SSS, but maybe he's not the best guy to come into a jam to get a key out. 

Now I'll wait for everyone to bring up examples of other times he's come in to get a key out that I forgot about because my brain will only allow me to think about negative outcomes.

I don't have other examples, but the Reynolds double was an 84 EV with a .010 xBA

[UMFan83]

1 minute ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

I don't have other examples, but the Reynolds double was an 84 EV with a .010 xBA

But hes a ground ball pitcher, get the ground ball dammit lol

[Rex Buckingham]

Seiya!

 

Edit: all is forgiven (though as TT pointed out, nothing to forgive really)

Edited August 27, 2023 by Rex Buckingham

[UMFan83]

Seiya is a horsefeathers beast right now.  Bravo to Ross for the mental break.

[Dfan25]

Suzuki hitting with authority makes all the difference in the world for this team 

[soccer10k]

Regarding the Seiya play, if he lets it go and it bounces out of play, is it automatic the runner that was on first stays at 3rd or can they allow him to score if they think it’s clear he would? I can’t remember how the rule is. And if so, is that why they ruled he could score or did they change their call?

[Dfan25]

Alzolay will probably still go in . There’s nobody there other than Merryweather who they trust 

[UMFan83]

Palencia coming in to finish the game.  I'm sure Adbert will be on standby