Whole lotto suckin’ (Blackhawks 2023 offseason)

[Irrelevant Dude]

Can someone explain how the whole NHL draft/contract process works?  What happens when a player goes to college, or plays for another organization after being drafted?  Is there a difference in signing a player to an NHL contract versus an AHL contract?  In the case where a player goes to college, does the drafting team maintain that players' rights for a certain amount of time?  I guess I was naive to the ways of hockey, but until recently I always thoughts guys just went from the draft to AHL to NHL.

[jersey cubs fan]

On 7/20/2023 at 5:15 PM, Irrelevant Dude said:

Can someone explain how the whole NHL draft/contract process works?  What happens when a player goes to college, or plays for another organization after being drafted?  Is there a difference in signing a player to an NHL contract versus an AHL contract?  In the case where a player goes to college, does the drafting team maintain that players' rights for a certain amount of time?  I guess I was naive to the ways of hockey, but until recently I always thoughts guys just went from the draft to AHL to NHL.

I’m not going to get this entirely correct. But, generally speaking you have 3 years to sign a guy after drafting him. Draft eligibility is all about birth year. Lots of times guys who are drafted go to college for a year or two then sign. Youth/junior hockey is extremely convoluted and weird and varies between usa and Canada. But only the top guys sign and play right away at 18. 

[jersey cubs fan]

Hawks go to arbitration with Kurashev and end up paying more than they probably expected. $2.25m cap hit for two years. Doesn’t matter today. Could matter down the line 
 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/blackhawks-philipp-kurashev-gets-two-year-4-5m-contract-in-arbitration/

[jersey cubs fan]

Samuel Savoie signed his entry level deal. 3rd rounder from 2022. 

[Brian707]

Rocky Wirtz dead

Edited July 25, 2023 by Brian707

[jersey cubs fan]

4 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

Rocky Wirtz dead

But he was the picture of health 

[UMFan83]

5 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

Rocky Wirtz dead

Complicated legacy.  Maybe complicated is the wrong term. Completely overhauled a dying hockey franchise and revitalized the fanbase. But cannot overlook his role in the off the ice issues that marred the Hawks 3 Cups. Ultimately that cover up and his annoyed response about being done talking about it will be his legacy

[Brian707]

Agreed

[Derwood]

54 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Complicated legacy.  Maybe complicated is the wrong term. Completely overhauled a dying hockey franchise and revitalized the fanbase. But cannot overlook his role in the off the ice issues that marred the Hawks 3 Cups. Ultimately that cover up and his annoyed response about being done talking about it will be his legacy

He was helped by simply not being his dad

[17 Seconds]

feels like the perfect time to change the logo/name

Edited July 26, 2023 by 17 Seconds

[WrigleyField 22]

1 hour ago, 17 Seconds said:

feels like the perfect time to change the logo/name

Not gonna happen unless corporate sponsors make the push

[jersey cubs fan]

Toews’ career is only mostly dead. He’s not retiring but also taking a step away this season. 

[WrigleyField 22]

4 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Toews’ career is only mostly dead. He’s not retiring but also taking a step away this season. 

Only replying since it's obvious you were setting this up

 

 

 

[jersey cubs fan]

Hagel signed a big extension with Tampa. I believe the first pick they got for him was used on Oliver Moore. They also have a 2024 tampa pick in the back pocket. 

[17 Seconds]

he ended up being a very nice player

 

 

[Derwood]

Do the Lightning just magically have twice as much cap space as every other team? They have a roster full of All-Stars and just keep signing guys to huge deals

[UMFan83]

1 hour ago, Derwood said:

Do the Lightning just magically have twice as much cap space as every other team? They have a roster full of All-Stars and just keep signing guys to huge deals

For this one, they finally get rid of Brent Seabrook's (yes seriously) LTIR hold of $6.875m after this season.  Hagel's extension starts after this year so it fits right in. 

Edited August 23, 2023 by UMFan83

[Derwood]

11 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

For this one, they finally get rid of Brent Seabrook's (yes seriously) LTIR hold of $6.875m after this season.  Hagel's extension starts after this year so it fits right in. 

It's amazing how good some GM's are with the cap. The CBJ are always the youngest team in the league, but when they want more than one star player, it feels like they are trading guys away to afford it. Tampa runs four lines deep, is in the playoffs/SCF every year, and they just keep adding and adding

[minnesotacubsfan]

1 hour ago, Derwood said:

It's amazing how good some GM's are with the cap. The CBJ are always the youngest team in the league, but when they want more than one star player, it feels like they are trading guys away to afford it. Tampa runs four lines deep, is in the playoffs/SCF every year, and they just keep adding and adding

the CBJ GM sounds like he's good too, good at selling the cap issue as a limiter when it doesn't need to be

 

 

[17 Seconds]

bedard has those marty st. louis quads already. makes mcdavid looks like a stick

 

 

[jersey cubs fan]

God I hate lunges 

[UMFan83]

Just watching that video makes my legs hurt

[17 Seconds]

https://twitter.com/NHL/status/1703223757676945780

[Hairyducked Idiot]

50 minutes ago, 17 Seconds said:

https://twitter.com/NHL/status/1703223757676945780

The release and shot on the first goal is absolutely bonkers. He's going to be an absolute menace on the power play.

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

This was an interview with former NHL player Darcy Hordichuk on a Coyotes Podcast.  At the end, he talks about Bedard (about 46 minutes in if the time stamp doesn't work).