Bears off-season thread 2022

[WrigleyField 22]

 

Seen a couple remarks made along these lines and I tend to agree with the logic. If Ozzie Newsome had you scouting the Sec you have an eye for talent.

 

Still really interested though to see who/if Poles brings in any outsiders for things like cap mgmt or increasing analytics/R&D. Baltimore would be an org to poach in that area.

[raw]

Man, I'd love any of the names I'm hearing for OC, except that Philly dude. Getsy or Pep would be cool with me.

I've seen some arguments for the Philly guy. A lot of tape watchers saying their WR are being schemed open well and any issues are more about Hurts accuracy, but they felt he maximizes passing scheme.

 

Yeah, I'm sure he's good at what he does. My concerns with him are more of the unknown. IDK how good he is because Philly's passing offense is a mess because of the QB and bad WR drafting. And with no playcalling, I'd rather go for a guy that has worked closely with Shanahan, McVay, LaFleur or has demonstrated QB success like Pep.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Everyone searching for ties from one guy to another like football isn't an incredibly incestuous business.

[Tryptamine]

The more I read the more I want Pep Hamilton to be the guy handling Fields. The play calling is up in the air, but he can certainly churn out young QBs that perform.

[raw]

The more I read the more I want Pep Hamilton to be the guy handling Fields. The play calling is up in the air, but he can certainly churn out young QBs that perform.

 

Yeah I think playcalling is one of the more overrated aspects that fans complain about. Like I don't think Nagy's issue was play calling, it was that his philosophies sucked. It doesn't matter what plays you call if you have a crappy playbook that you stink at teaching and doesn't fit what the players are able to execute. Nobody is knocking down the door for an Anthony Lynn offense and he churned out a historic rookie season for Herbert as the playcaller. The credit is rightfully going to the guy that developed Herbert.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'm certainly more hopeful with the names being tossed around for OC then I was the other day when they hired Eberflus.

 

pick a good one please

[Soul]

The more I read the more I want Pep Hamilton to be the guy handling Fields. The play calling is up in the air, but he can certainly churn out young QBs that perform.

 

Yeah I think playcalling is one of the more overrated aspects that fans complain about. Like I don't think Nagy's issue was play calling, it was that his philosophies sucked. It doesn't matter what plays you call if you have a crappy playbook that you stink at teaching and doesn't fit what the players are able to execute. Nobody is knocking down the door for an Anthony Lynn offense and he churned out a historic rookie season for Herbert as the playcaller. The credit is rightfully going to the guy that developed Herbert.

 

Probably true. Although with Nagy specifically, he seemed to nail the first drive most often, and then suck after that. It felt like he needed a week to prepare his script of plays and then as soon the other team adjusted he was unable to make adjustments in turn.

 

That's just me being a fan without really knowing what I'm talking about in terms of what was happening under the hood, but that's how it seemed anyway.

[Tryptamine]

The more I read the more I want Pep Hamilton to be the guy handling Fields. The play calling is up in the air, but he can certainly churn out young QBs that perform.

 

Yeah I think playcalling is one of the more overrated aspects that fans complain about. Like I don't think Nagy's issue was play calling, it was that his philosophies sucked. It doesn't matter what plays you call if you have a crappy playbook that you stink at teaching and doesn't fit what the players are able to execute. Nobody is knocking down the door for an Anthony Lynn offense and he churned out a historic rookie season for Herbert as the playcaller. The credit is rightfully going to the guy that developed Herbert.

 

Probably true. Although with Nagy specifically, he seemed to nail the first drive most often, and then suck after that. It felt like he needed a week to prepare his script of plays and then as soon the other team adjusted he was unable to make adjustments in turn.

 

That's just me being a fan without really knowing what I'm talking about in terms of what was happening under the hood, but that's how it seemed anyway.

 

This is why the Bears were almost historically incompetent in the 3rd quarter over the last few years. Teams would adjust at half time and Nagy was completely and totally incapable of adjusting back himself.

[Soul]

 

Yeah I think playcalling is one of the more overrated aspects that fans complain about. Like I don't think Nagy's issue was play calling, it was that his philosophies sucked. It doesn't matter what plays you call if you have a crappy playbook that you stink at teaching and doesn't fit what the players are able to execute. Nobody is knocking down the door for an Anthony Lynn offense and he churned out a historic rookie season for Herbert as the playcaller. The credit is rightfully going to the guy that developed Herbert.

 

Probably true. Although with Nagy specifically, he seemed to nail the first drive most often, and then suck after that. It felt like he needed a week to prepare his script of plays and then as soon the other team adjusted he was unable to make adjustments in turn.

 

That's just me being a fan without really knowing what I'm talking about in terms of what was happening under the hood, but that's how it seemed anyway.

 

This is why the Bears were almost historically incompetent in the 3rd quarter over the last few years. Teams would adjust at half time and Nagy was completely and totally incapable of adjusting back himself.

 

And is that playcalling or just that the HC needs to have a baseline, expected skill - adjusting.

[UMFan83]

The more I read the more I want Pep Hamilton to be the guy handling Fields. The play calling is up in the air, but he can certainly churn out young QBs that perform.

 

Except when he worked for us lol. I guess he turned Orton into a servicable QB

[WrigleyField 22]

The more I read the more I want Pep Hamilton to be the guy handling Fields. The play calling is up in the air, but he can certainly churn out young QBs that perform.

 

Except when he worked for us lol. I guess he turned Orton into a servicable QB

Like Daboll or Shannahan in CLE, no candidates past ties to Chicago should be held against them lol.

[gflore34]

 

Yeah I think playcalling is one of the more overrated aspects that fans complain about. Like I don't think Nagy's issue was play calling, it was that his philosophies sucked. It doesn't matter what plays you call if you have a crappy playbook that you stink at teaching and doesn't fit what the players are able to execute. Nobody is knocking down the door for an Anthony Lynn offense and he churned out a historic rookie season for Herbert as the playcaller. The credit is rightfully going to the guy that developed Herbert.

 

Probably true. Although with Nagy specifically, he seemed to nail the first drive most often, and then suck after that. It felt like he needed a week to prepare his script of plays and then as soon the other team adjusted he was unable to make adjustments in turn.

 

That's just me being a fan without really knowing what I'm talking about in terms of what was happening under the hood, but that's how it seemed anyway.

 

This is why the Bears were almost historically incompetent in the 3rd quarter over the last few years. Teams would adjust at half time and Nagy was completely and totally incapable of adjusting back himself.

 

This and I remember reading about Nagy' scheme was primarily set up to have only open receiver at a time? If so, how could any QB succeed in such a system? To be that stubborn and foolish to think the defense won't be able to take away the primary and only is a recipe for disaster. Depending on your talent this kind of scheme could work in college, never in the pros, not consistently anyways.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I know this will sound weird, but I don't know if heavy RPO is gonna be the best use of Fields talents.

 

Some speculation Pep would still be in play for QB coach and passing game coordinator.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

I know this will sound weird, but I don't know if heavy RPO is gonna be the best use of Fields talents.

 

Some speculation Pep would still be in play for QB coach and passing game coordinator.

 

Goatse seems incredibly uninspiring. Not sure how you can be considered a disciple of a guy you coached under for one year.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I know this will sound weird, but I don't know if heavy RPO is gonna be the best use of Fields talents.

 

Some speculation Pep would still be in play for QB coach and passing game coordinator.

 

Goatse seems incredibly uninspiring. Not sure how you can be considered a disciple of a guy you coached under for one year.

I'm guessing he's saying that since he played under him at Akron too.

[CoolHandLuke]

 

I know this will sound weird, but I don't know if heavy RPO is gonna be the best use of Fields talents.

 

Some speculation Pep would still be in play for QB coach and passing game coordinator.

 

Goatse seems incredibly uninspiring. Not sure how you can be considered a disciple of a guy you coached under for one year.

 

He played for him for two years and coached under him for 3 years. Although I don't think guys with such a mediocre history should have "disciples".

[Bertz]

Feels like this is an impossible one to evaluate from the outside since Rodgers was clearly fully formed before Getsy ever got there.

[Proven Veteran]

 

I know this will sound weird, but I don't know if heavy RPO is gonna be the best use of Fields talents.

 

Some speculation Pep would still be in play for QB coach and passing game coordinator.

 

I was not impressed with his running at all this season. I wouldn't heavily rely on that if we want him to stay healthy.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I know this will sound weird, but I don't know if heavy RPO is gonna be the best use of Fields talents.

 

Some speculation Pep would still be in play for QB coach and passing game coordinator.

 

I was not impressed with his running at all this season. I wouldn't heavily rely on that if we want him to stay healthy.

A little that, but also not sure it plays to his throwing strengths. I mean I know every team will use it a little, but I don't wanna see the scheme center on it.

[Soul]

 

I know this will sound weird, but I don't know if heavy RPO is gonna be the best use of Fields talents.

 

Some speculation Pep would still be in play for QB coach and passing game coordinator.

 

I was not impressed with his running at all this season. I wouldn't heavily rely on that if we want him to stay healthy.

 

Disappointing, even.

[David]

[mias_tisg]

What are the options for DC? Not enthralled with hiring a Colts guy for that job, position jobs are fine. I'd rather bring in an outsider or preferably keep Sean Desai in that role.

[jersey cubs fan]

What are the options for DC? Not enthralled with hiring a Colts guy for that job, position jobs are fine. I'd rather bring in an outsider or preferably keep Sean Desai in that role.

I can’t see any way Desai stays.

[raw]

Have we really heard anything even about a potential DC. I thought Borgonzi might be DC, but sounds like he's going to stay an LB coach. We heard Marinelli's name, but I've read they're looking for him more as DL coach, which makes sense since he's 72. It probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme who is the DC, as Flus will call the defense so I can't imagine it will be a huge name. But it almost certainly won't be Desai, who is a 3-4 guy and Flus a 4-3.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Have we really heard anything even about a potential DC. I thought Borgonzi might be DC, but sounds like he's going to stay an LB coach. We heard Marinelli's name, but I've read they're looking for him more as DL coach, which makes sense since he's 72. It probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme who is the DC, as Flus will call the defense so I can't imagine it will be a huge name. But it almost certainly won't be Desai, who is a 3-4 guy and Flus a 4-3.

 

it will be interesting to watch his career, he's had an incredible experience working under Fangio and will get opportunities just because of that. However, I'd be fine if he stayed and wanted to learn another system, as well. He might be the perfect candidate, low key, established with fans, and gets to keep building a career

Edited January 29, 2022 by minnesotacubsfan