Building around a new Correa? (Signed with the Twins for 3/$105m)

[Cubswin11]

I can somewhat buy it with the alleged agent stuff that Boras drove him to a 1 year deal so next year he can do a mega deal and get the full commission. I also kinda get why we wouldn’t want to do a 1 year deal, essentially and wanted him to commit at least 3 years here before an opt out.

[TarzanJoeWallis]

No love lost between Scott Boras and the Cubs that's for sure. I'm also wondering which side is leaking that. Is this a "see we tried" leak from the Cubs? I don't see why Correa would take essentially a 1 year deal from the Twins over a "huge offer" from the Cubs because his newly signed agent is butt hurt over previous clients

I think Boras and the Cubs are good with each other. Certainly he tries to get the best for his clients and he sometimes will offer a lot of public rhetoric, but that is posturing and I don’t think he’d keep a guy from signing with the Cubs. But when Correa changed agents it was reported that Boras would have to split the commission with the previous agent. When he signed essentially a one year deal speculation was that Boras was happy about that because he’d only have to split this year and then get all of the future deal. Whether that was a factor, I don’t know.

[UMFan83]

No love lost between Scott Boras and the Cubs that's for sure. I'm also wondering which side is leaking that. Is this a "see we tried" leak from the Cubs? I don't see why Correa would take essentially a 1 year deal from the Twins over a "huge offer" from the Cubs because his newly signed agent is butt hurt over previous clients

I think Boras and the Cubs are good with each other. Certainly he tries to get the best for his clients and he sometimes will offer a lot of public rhetoric, but that is posturing and I don’t think he’d keep a guy from signing with the Cubs. But when Correa changed agents it was reported that Boras would have to split the commission with the previous agent. When he signed essentially a one year deal speculation was that Boras was happy about that because he’d only have to split this year and then get all of the future deal. Whether that was a factor, I don’t know.

 

I guess I don't understand why Correa would be down for that. I don't know what the Cubs offer was so maybe it wasn't the type of numbers we were talking about, but it seems like there's more chance for his value to go down after this year than go up. Some players just like betting on themselves though

[David]

Here's the actual clip

 

and some more

[Cubswin11]

No love lost between Scott Boras and the Cubs that's for sure. I'm also wondering which side is leaking that. Is this a "see we tried" leak from the Cubs? I don't see why Correa would take essentially a 1 year deal from the Twins over a "huge offer" from the Cubs because his newly signed agent is butt hurt over previous clients

I think Boras and the Cubs are good with each other. Certainly he tries to get the best for his clients and he sometimes will offer a lot of public rhetoric, but that is posturing and I don’t think he’d keep a guy from signing with the Cubs. But when Correa changed agents it was reported that Boras would have to split the commission with the previous agent. When he signed essentially a one year deal speculation was that Boras was happy about that because he’d only have to split this year and then get all of the future deal. Whether that was a factor, I don’t know.

 

I guess I don't understand why Correa would be down for that. I don't know what the Cubs offer was so maybe it wasn't the type of numbers we were talking about, but it seems like there's more chance for his value to go down after this year than go up. Some players just like betting on themselves though

The FA market is absolutely terrible next year in terms of 9 figure guys. Short of a catastrophic injury Correa is going to be the best position player FA and only sub 30 one. Home and Trea Turner (30/31 years old) might be the only 9 figure FA next year. He’ll get the mega deal again and it had to be something clearly Boras guided him on/sold him on to go this route. I’m sure he got some assurances/maybe some under the table agreement with Boras to take care of him if he blows out, plus I’m sure he has a massive insurance policy on himself.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I've never heard Stephen Nelson's name before, why is this something he would uniquely know

[Cubswin11]

So we made an offer, a good one allegedly, but he was never told about it? Don’t the agents have a duty to present all offers?

 

[Sammy Sofa]

I've never heard Stephen Nelson's name before, why is this something he would uniquely know

 

[Cubswin11]

I've never heard Stephen Nelson's name before, why is this something he would uniquely know

He’s been on MLBN for a while. He’s on at least one of their shows daily, if not multiple ones, he might have a radio show through them too on Sirius.

[David]

I've never heard Stephen Nelson's name before, why is this something he would uniquely know

 

i can't answer that for you, other than just the fact that he's on mlb network and likely finds himself around people who would know these things

 

he's been the one of the main mlb network guys for a little while now and is a local guy (so that's probably part of the reason the score had him on)

[CubinNY]

So we made an offer, a good one allegedly, but he was never told about it? Don’t the agents have a duty to present all offers?

 

I'm calling [expletive] here. Yesterday the Ricketts were called out by a national media guy for fielding an inferior team on the cheap. This is a bogus story fed to friendly media by an ownership group who are about to field a 70 win team on $140M payroll with the 3rd highest ticket prices in baseball.

 

If Boars didn't give Correa this information he would be subject to disbarment and civil litigation.

[Rob]

Yeah, it doesn't pass the sniff test.

 

You care enough about a player to offer them $300M+. But you don't care enough to follow up after a lengthy lockout during which it was extensively discussed that said player had changed his agent?

 

If anybody was offering that kind of cash, they'd have been sure to at least text Boras on Day 1 after the lockout and make sure he's familiar with the previous offer.

[Bertz]

I don't know hink there's any inconsistency here? We know that Bruce Levine got weirdly specific in reporting that the Cubs were gonna offer something in that vein right when the lockout started.

 

It's also not weird that Correa would say no to that kind of offer. He got a contract that guarantees him 9 figures even if he develops the yips tomorrow, but at the same time if he strings together a second healthy season in a row he can still go out and get a Lindor contract (after having already banked $35M).

 

Of course he wouldn't take the Cubs' deal without it also guaranteeing an opt out after year 1. At the same time I don't know that the Cubs were wrong to not offer the opt out given the lack of strength in the roster (they should however have just offered him a fairly straightforward $300M+).

[David]

Yeah, it doesn't pass the sniff test.

 

You care enough about a player to offer them $300M+. But you don't care enough to follow up after a lengthy lockout during which it was extensively discussed that said player had changed his agent?

 

If anybody was offering that kind of cash, they'd have been sure to at least text Boras on Day 1 after the lockout and make sure he's familiar with the previous offer.

 

I think Hoyer explicitly said that over the lockout they decided to shift their attention to (without specifically naming who from) Suzuki (which, why not both?) but that could have just been putting window dressing on the story.

 

FWIW, I don't see what doesn't pass the sniff test about what is being reported.

[17 Seconds]

seems to me that harper and correa both wanted to play here and we said no to both of them

[CubinNY]

 

FWIW, I don't see what doesn't pass the sniff test about what is being reported.

The guy reporting this is saying, without saying, that Boras didn't tell Correa about the offer.

[mul21]

Some of you need to work on your math. That deal is for $210M, not $300M+.

[Bertz]

 

FWIW, I don't see what doesn't pass the sniff test about what is being reported.

The guy reporting this is saying, without saying, that Boras didn't tell Correa about the offer.

 

A lot of players don't want to be told how the sausage gets made, and basically just want to know when it's time to choose between best and finals. If Boras thought 7/220 or whatever was a bad offer, it's not weird that it never made it to Correa.

[Cubswin11]

Some of you need to work on your math. That deal is for $210M, not $300M+.

7 years at “more than $30 mil a year.” So it probably was more $240-260 in total.

[CubinNY]

 

FWIW, I don't see what doesn't pass the sniff test about what is being reported.

The guy reporting this is saying, without saying, that Boras didn't tell Correa about the offer.

 

A lot of players don't want to be told how the sausage gets made, and basically just want to know when it's time to choose between best and finals. If Boras thought 7/220 or whatever was a bad offer, it's not weird that it never made it to Correa.

I had a few agents represent me before for various things and in all of the contacts I've signed, it is very explicitly spelled out in the contract that they have a duty to provide informed consent. I cannot imagine sports is any different.

 

However, Boars very likely, and probably did tell Correa all the offers and let him decide, with Boras's input. Whether the Cubs actually made that offer or decided to retract that offer, we will probably never know.

[Backtobanks]

So we made an offer, a good one allegedly, but he was never told about it? Don’t the agents have a duty to present all offers?

 

I'm calling [expletive] here. Yesterday the Ricketts were called out by a national media guy for fielding an inferior team on the cheap. This is a bogus story fed to friendly media by an ownership group who are about to field a 70 win team on $140M payroll with the 3rd highest ticket prices in baseball.

 

If Boars didn't give Correa this information he would be subject to disbarment and civil litigation.

 

Yeah, this sounds like something Trump, Fox News, and the Ricketts would "accidently" leak to the press.

[UMFan83]

So we made an offer, a good one allegedly, but he was never told about it? Don’t the agents have a duty to present all offers?

 

I'm calling [expletive] here. Yesterday the Ricketts were called out by a national media guy for fielding an inferior team on the cheap. This is a bogus story fed to friendly media by an ownership group who are about to field a 70 win team on $140M payroll with the 3rd highest ticket prices in baseball.

 

If Boars didn't give Correa this information he would be subject to disbarment and civil litigation.

 

Who was the national guy calling out Ricketts? I live for good Ricketts hating

[CubinNY]

https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-cubs/jon-heyman-cubs-dont-spend-enough-considering-their-revenue

[UMFan83]

Correa talks about the Cubs pursuit a little in an interview/article. If he's being truthful, it may be hard to land him this offseason.

 

 

Not sure if it means much but it also mentions the Cubs never made a formal offer. Of course that doesn't mean they weren't talking with him

 

Also says this about this offseason:

 

Correa expects the Cubs will come calling once again if he’s available. He noticed when Cubs fans tried their best to lure him via social media and appreciated their efforts. The lofty expectations of fans have led Correa to believe the Cubs will be very active this offseason, and he’s always appreciated the organization.

 

“Wrigley is Wrigley and the Cubs are the Cubs — it’s a great organization with such a great fanbase,” he said.