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Saints are 5-2 now after only their 2nd home game of the season beating the Champs with Trevor Siemian at QB. Give Payton COTY already.

 

It's pretty impressive.

 

But it's all about to go to isht when Hill comes back. Payton has been waiting for this moment his whole life. Maybe they'll lose out and get to draft my boy Matt Corral.

The Saints defense is elite, like Super Bowl level elite. This is still a playoff contender no matter who is under center. Michael Thomas likely returns next week, and the schedule gets much easier the rest of the way.

 

Maybe I’m nuts, but I’m not totally sold that Taysom is the starter the rest of the way. Sean would be wise to start Siemian and use Taysom in his more natural gadget role.

 

Saints should be pretty safely in a playoff spot, regardless of QB. They are 2 games up on the loss column of everyone other than the shoe-ins in the NFC. NFC East and North are only getting 1 team. Even if the 49ers get healthy and play offense like yesterday, there's still another WC up for grabs. Saints just have to hold off the severely flawed Vikings, Bears, Panthers, and Seahawks if Russ comes back. And we know Sean Payton can win with anyone at this point.

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Terrible news on Henry.

 

With him out, that entire division is now officially a complete horsefeathers show

I've been told that RBs don't matter, but all of the people that have told me that have been exasperated with Henry's preformances for the past 3 years.

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Terrible news on Henry.

 

With him out, that entire division is now officially a complete horsefeathers show

I've been told that RBs don't matter, but all of the people that have told me that have been exasperated with Henry's preformances for the past 3 years.

 

The top 5 RBs matter. The bottom 5 RBs matter in the opposite way. The other 90 are all the same.

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With him out, that entire division is now officially a complete horsefeathers show

I've been told that RBs don't matter, but all of the people that have told me that have been exasperated with Henry's preformances for the past 3 years.

 

The top 5 RBs matter. The bottom 5 RBs matter in the opposite way. The other 90 are all the same.

That doesn't sound right. Replacement-level players are replacement level because there are a lot of faceless duplicate versions of them around. I can maybe buy the top 5 part though.

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I wanted to read that entire post above. I really did. Couldn’t do it though. Tried to, but started skimming about a third of the way through. Finished by reading the last couple of sentences.
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I've been told that RBs don't matter, but all of the people that have told me that have been exasperated with Henry's preformances for the past 3 years.

 

The top 5 RBs matter. The bottom 5 RBs matter in the opposite way. The other 90 are all the same.

That doesn't sound right. Replacement-level players are replacement level because there are a lot of faceless duplicate versions of them around. I can maybe buy the top 5 part though.

Without looking at the numbers, Henry feels like a generational RB to me and just as a fan, not having him play the season out really sucks.

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I wanted to read that entire post above. I really did. Couldn’t do it though. Tried to, but started skimming about a third of the way through. Finished by reading the last couple of sentences.

I took on as much as I could. I have never seen as much detailed Jets info so I feel like I’m now up to speed. Cheers Tom :)

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I wanted to read that entire post above. I really did. Couldn’t do it though. Tried to, but started skimming about a third of the way through. Finished by reading the last couple of sentences.

 

I saw the first instance of "Jets" and skipped the rest.

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I've been told that RBs don't matter, but all of the people that have told me that have been exasperated with Henry's preformances for the past 3 years.

 

The top 5 RBs matter. The bottom 5 RBs matter in the opposite way. The other 90 are all the same.

That doesn't sound right. Replacement-level players are replacement level because there are a lot of faceless duplicate versions of them around. I can maybe buy the top 5 part though.

 

They aren't faceless. But you see it with the Bears. David Montgomery goes out and they lose nothing because they have one of the other 90. Doesn't mean they both are replacement-level, just means they are easily replaced. There's not really a good way to explain it because there aren't any other positions in sports where almost everyone is a "good" player. But it's like a regular profession. You can get an accountant from any of the B-schools ranked from 11-25 and all would be good at their jobs. You can't just get a guy that took an accounting class in HS and expect the same ability. But also there's a few Stanford guys out there that are simply worth the assets it takes to get them.

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I wanted to read that entire post above. I really did. Couldn’t do it though. Tried to, but started skimming about a third of the way through. Finished by reading the last couple of sentences.

it's nice in a way that the Lions are so futile i don't have to expend so much mental energy to imagine how they might be able to somehow become competitive

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The top 5 RBs matter. The bottom 5 RBs matter in the opposite way. The other 90 are all the same.

That doesn't sound right. Replacement-level players are replacement level because there are a lot of faceless duplicate versions of them around. I can maybe buy the top 5 part though.

 

They aren't faceless. But you see it with the Bears. David Montgomery goes out and they lose nothing because they have one of the other 90. Doesn't mean they both are replacement-level, just means they are easily replaced. There's not really a good way to explain it because there aren't any other positions in sports where almost everyone is a "good" player. But it's like a regular profession. You can get an accountant from any of the B-schools ranked from 11-25 and all would be good at their jobs. You can't just get a guy that took an accounting class in HS and expect the same ability. But also there's a few Stanford guys out there that are simply worth the assets it takes to get them.

The diference is there are about 300,000 accounting positions to be filled, and there are only 70 or so RB jobs to fill in the world. Similar to how the RBs ranked rom 11-25 aren't much diferent, the guys ranked from 60-80 are even MORE SO not at all different, and you haven't even had to scrape the Div II College barrel yet. I'm just saying the bottom 5 RBs aren't nearly as much poor than the top 5 RBs are good. There's just no way.

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That doesn't sound right. Replacement-level players are replacement level because there are a lot of faceless duplicate versions of them around. I can maybe buy the top 5 part though.

 

They aren't faceless. But you see it with the Bears. David Montgomery goes out and they lose nothing because they have one of the other 90. Doesn't mean they both are replacement-level, just means they are easily replaced. There's not really a good way to explain it because there aren't any other positions in sports where almost everyone is a "good" player. But it's like a regular profession. You can get an accountant from any of the B-schools ranked from 11-25 and all would be good at their jobs. You can't just get a guy that took an accounting class in HS and expect the same ability. But also there's a few Stanford guys out there that are simply worth the assets it takes to get them.

The diference is there are about 300,000 accounting positions to be filled, and there are only 70 or so RB jobs to fill in the world. Similar to how the RBs ranked rom 11-25 aren't much diferent, the guys ranked from 60-80 are even MORE SO not at all different, and you haven't even had to scrape the Div II College barrel yet. I'm just saying the bottom 5 RBs aren't nearly as much poor than the top 5 RBs are good. There's just no way.

 

There's guys on NFL rosters like Jordan Howard, Ryan Nall, Kalen Ballage, and probably Adrian Peterson (just signed to Titans yesterday) at this point, who are placeholders. You can't replace even a 60-80 RB with these guys long-term and expect the same production. And they wouldn't be on NFL rosters if not for injuries. That's what I mean. I'm just talking about NFL talent. Not going down to D2 and all that.

 

But if there are 80 RBs in the NFL, 5-7 are elite (your Derrick Henrys), 65-70 are different levels of "good", and then 5-7 are guys you bring in if you don't have a healthy RB room and only give the ball in certain situations (usually short yardage or rest after your real RB has a long run).

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