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I would watch but mlb.tv is FUBAR

 

MLB.com as a whole is messed up. I thought it was just my At Bat app but I can't even get onto the main site with my laptop

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We’re going to get screwed out of a run if they say the ball is dropped right?

No one tried to advance because they thought the ball was caught. If the ump never made a call, which I assume he didn't, that's on those guys.

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I'm so bad at gauging the severity of these things. I definitely thought Pham got the worse of that both in real time and on replay. Now he looks fine and Kim looks real messed up.
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We’re going to get screwed out of a run if they say the ball is dropped right?

No one tried to advance because they thought the ball was caught. If the ump never made a call, which I assume he didn't, that's on those guys.

 

Yeah, depends on what if anything the umps signaled. If the umps didn’t signal that the ball was caught, whoever was on first should have at least made it to second.

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Wait, why wouldn't that run count?

 

There were force outs at 2nd and 3rd for the last two outs of the inning.

 

We got unlucky that the ball was hidden behind Pham rather than rolling away where the runners could see it.

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The result of that play is related to the weird Baez play. If the inning ends with force-outs, the run doesn't count.
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Wait, why wouldn't that run count?

 

There were force outs at 2nd and 3rd for the last two outs of the inning.

 

We got unlucky that the ball was hidden behind Pham rather than rolling away where the runners could see it.

 

Yep, from a scoring perspective, it has the same effect as a routine inning-ending 6-4-3 double play.

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We didn't really deserve most of those baserunners anyway. Tough break on that play, though. Runners had no good choices.
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Wait, why wouldn't that run count?

 

There were force outs at 2nd and 3rd for the last two outs of the inning.

 

We got unlucky that the ball was hidden behind Pham rather than rolling away where the runners could see it.

 

Yep, from a scoring perspective, it has the same effect as a routine inning-ending 6-4-3 double play.

 

I thought the key was getting the guy out at 1st though. A 6-4-3 means getting the batter out at first. The batter reached first, I thought that was the determining factor.

 

Ah, nevermind. I'm stupid.

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There were force outs at 2nd and 3rd for the last two outs of the inning.

 

We got unlucky that the ball was hidden behind Pham rather than rolling away where the runners could see it.

 

Yep, from a scoring perspective, it has the same effect as a routine inning-ending 6-4-3 double play.

 

I thought the key was getting the guy out at 1st though. A 6-4-3 means getting the batter out at first. The batter reached first, I thought that was the determining factor.

 

Nope. If the final out is a force out, it doesn't matter what base it's at. That run won't count.

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I briefly caught a replay of it, but why was an infield fly rule not called?

 

Guessing because it was hit in the outfield. Legit outfield, not inbetween area

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Yep, from a scoring perspective, it has the same effect as a routine inning-ending 6-4-3 double play.

 

I thought the key was getting the guy out at 1st though. A 6-4-3 means getting the batter out at first. The batter reached first, I thought that was the determining factor.

 

Nope. If the final out is a force out, it doesn't matter what base it's at. That run won't count.

 

Yeah, I was thinking because the batter reached first and there was only 1 out when he reached that that mattered. But yeah it's still a force play and not a tag.

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I briefly caught a replay of it, but why was an infield fly rule not called?

 

Too deep?

 

Yeah, that wasn't exactly a routine play for an infielder.

 

Got it. I couldn’t tell from the replays I saw that were zoomed in.

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