Bulls '20-'21

[bjam12]

bulls taded otto porter and wendell carter for nikola vucevic

 

acquiring another all-star. I like it.

[UMFan83]

bulls taded otto porter and wendell carter for nikola vucevic

How does NSBB feel about this trade? I don't follow the NBA that close these days.

 

Vucevic is an all star. Carter recently fell out of favor with the Bulls and if you look at on/off court statistics, the bulls were much worse with him on the floor, though he is young enough to still have potential. Porter is always injured and when he's not injured its only a matter of time. And he's a FA after the season. I like it on first glance

[UMFan83]

uhh bulls also gave up 2 first round picks in the deal. I mean I guess thats the price to pay for a 30 year old all star. Just seems strange after years of GarPax to make such a bold move involving precious draft picks

 

[bjam12]

uhh bulls also gave up 2 first round picks in the deal. I mean I guess thats the price to pay for a 30 year old all star. Just seems strange after years of GarPax to make such a bold move involving precious draft picks

 

 

I mean you have to give up something of value for Vucevic. I'm good with it.

[Old Style]

I hate giving up the picks but if this makes the Bulls a better team they won't be lottery picks anyway.

[squally1313]

Yeah this should be enough to keep us out of the lottery this year, so really the only way it could backfire is if the team blows up before 2022-2023 and/or the ping pong balls make that a really high pick (with a potential added wrinkle of the NBA re-allowing high school players into the draft).

 

Carter still could develop, but don't think his ceiling is greater than Vucevic's present, so taking a shot with the current group (plus hopefully swapping Lauri for a PG) for a few years here.

[SpongeWorthy]

whoa

[Old Style]

We got less Duke-y which usually is a very good thing.

[raw]

bulls taded otto porter and wendell carter for nikola vucevic

How does NSBB feel about this trade? I don't follow the NBA that close these days.

 

I like it. He's a scorer (24.5 per game) that will take some pressure off of LaVine. A little older than I'd like, but I think this makes the Bulls a playoff team this year, which means the picks won't be lottery picks. They are still after Lonzo, and if they can pull that off, I'll feel really good about this team. While, i would be interested in Vuc and Lauri together, I think a lineup of Lonzo, LaVine, Williams, Vucevic, and whoever at the 3/4 with Coby off the bench would be solid.

[UMFan83]

Yeah this should be enough to keep us out of the lottery this year, so really the only way it could backfire is if the team blows up before 2022-2023 and/or the ping pong balls make that a really high pick (with a potential added wrinkle of the NBA re-allowing high school players into the draft).

 

Carter still could develop, but don't think his ceiling is greater than Vucevic's present, so taking a shot with the current group (plus hopefully swapping Lauri for a PG) for a few years here.

 

I also just read that the pick this year is top 4 protected, so this prevents us from really getting burned if the Bulls cant make the playoffs

[Old Style]

What would it take to get Lonzo?

[WrigleyField 22]

I knew AK wasn't interested in any tanking.

 

Hopefully those picks are pretty low value. Though that 2023 might be loaded double draft class right? So that could be a more valuable pick even if they are a playoff team.

[WrigleyField 22]

What would it take to get Lonzo?

Lauri straight up?

 

Supposedly they offered Sato+2nd rounders for him already.

[WrigleyField 22]

bulls taded otto porter and wendell carter for nikola vucevic

How does NSBB feel about this trade? I don't follow the NBA that close these days.

 

I like it. He's a scorer (24.5 per game) that will take some pressure off of LaVine. A little older than I'd like, but I think this makes the Bulls a playoff team this year, which means the picks won't be lottery picks. They are still after Lonzo, and if they can pull that off, I'll feel really good about this team. While, i would be interested in Vuc and Lauri together, I think a lineup of Lonzo, LaVine, Williams, Vucevic, and whoever at the 3/4 with Coby off the bench would be solid.

Looks like his usage exploded this year. Next to Lavine he's probably a high teens scorer. But the advanced stats seem to like him over his career.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

And here I thought the best way the Bulls were going to get a second all-star was WIlliams developing or getting lucky in the lottery.

 

Now Joker can get a preview of what it'll be like being on the Bulls once he's a free agent.

[bukie]

I feel like this is a trade the previous front office would never have done in a million years, so I have to like it.

[bjam12]

I don't think the Bulls are done today.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

Edited March 25, 2021 by WrigleyField 22

[pitchcs]

Yeah this should be enough to keep us out of the lottery this year, so really the only way it could backfire is if the team blows up before 2022-2023 and/or the ping pong balls make that a really high pick (with a potential added wrinkle of the NBA re-allowing high school players into the draft).

 

Carter still could develop, but don't think his ceiling is greater than Vucevic's present, so taking a shot with the current group (plus hopefully swapping Lauri for a PG) for a few years here.

 

 

I don’t think it’s even close.

[Andy]

Yeah this should be enough to keep us out of the lottery this year, so really the only way it could backfire is if the team blows up before 2022-2023 and/or the ping pong balls make that a really high pick (with a potential added wrinkle of the NBA re-allowing high school players into the draft).

 

Carter still could develop, but don't think his ceiling is greater than Vucevic's present, so taking a shot with the current group (plus hopefully swapping Lauri for a PG) for a few years here.

 

I also just read that the pick this year is top 4 protected, so this prevents us from really getting burned if the Bulls cant make the playoffs

Both of the picks are top-4 protected, apparently.

 

This feels like a surprise - after last night's ridiculous loss to Cleveland I would've bet on another tank - but I guess with LaVine only signed one more year, AK was going to have to pick a lane pretty soon anyway, and this is the more interesting one.

 

Kind of crazy that I was annoyed when the Bulls matched Sacramento's 4/78 offer for LaVine and now he's the cornerstone and almost certainly getting a max extension in a few months.

[Andy]

More moves

 

 

Feels like flotsam for flotsam, but hey, new blood

[UMFan83]

More moves

 

 

Feels like flotsam for flotsam, but hey, new blood

 

MOE TO THE BULLS, this is a dream come true for me

[WrigleyField 22]

Yeah this should be enough to keep us out of the lottery this year, so really the only way it could backfire is if the team blows up before 2022-2023 and/or the ping pong balls make that a really high pick (with a potential added wrinkle of the NBA re-allowing high school players into the draft).

 

Carter still could develop, but don't think his ceiling is greater than Vucevic's present, so taking a shot with the current group (plus hopefully swapping Lauri for a PG) for a few years here.

 

I also just read that the pick this year is top 4 protected, so this prevents us from really getting burned if the Bulls cant make the playoffs

Both of the picks are top-4 protected, apparently.

 

This feels like a surprise - after last night's ridiculous loss to Cleveland I would've bet on another tank - but I guess with LaVine only signed one more year, AK was going to have to pick a lane pretty soon anyway, and this is the more interesting one.

 

Kind of crazy that I was annoyed when the Bulls matched Sacramento's 4/78 offer for LaVine and now he's the cornerstone and almost certainly getting a max extension in a few months.

I thought I read an extension for him would be a ton less than if he waits it out and signs a new deal after next year.

 

Not sure what Vucevic does with the cap space they were set to have, but presumably they still want to bring in a third "big" piece before Lavine has to get paid.

[WrigleyField 22]

More moves

 

 

Feels like flotsam for flotsam, but hey, new blood

Okay I'm so NBA dumb, I don't even know who those Wizards guys are.

 

Eta:

Nevermind I remember who Wagner is at least.

[Old Style]