Theo stepping down

[David]

Bummer.

 

Really thought things would end differently, but PTR really leaned in and went full PTR and that was the nail in the coffin.

 

Not sure what you mean. Maybe that Bill Walsh quote was treated as gospel more than it should have but i never expected him to last longer than 1 more season. It makes sense given where the Cubs are at that he would leave now. Maybe he would have stayed if the Cubs were spending like they should be, but I'd guess not.

 

Fake edit: Or do you mean PTR caused the ending to the Theo era to be disappointing?

 

i mean that if this team were still winning and TV money were coming in and PTR hadn't chickened out of spending after what happened with heyward (at best, if you give him this much credit), this wouldn't be happening. if this team were still making deep playoff runs and had healthy and big cash flow like the dodgers, there's not a chance in hell this would be happening. he'd be here at least as long as he could collect some more rings.

 

that quote was a convenient line to throw in to address jumping off a sinking ship (which is what he's doing now, as he should), not him laying out the rest of his career.

[Rob]

With the team underperforming and the Ricketts being as shitty as they are, the last few years have been tough. More than once I've found myself thinking "at least we've got Theo" and found respite in knowing that he would do the right thing. He's the reason the draft had the acknowledgment that black lives matter. He's the reason our team didn't have COVID outbreaks while all the other teams had major issues.

 

He's a good part of the reason I was still willing to watch the Cubs.

[UMFan83]

Bummer.

 

Really thought things would end differently, but PTR really leaned in and went full PTR and that was the nail in the coffin.

 

Not sure what you mean. Maybe that Bill Walsh quote was treated as gospel more than it should have but i never expected him to last longer than 1 more season. It makes sense given where the Cubs are at that he would leave now. Maybe he would have stayed if the Cubs were spending like they should be, but I'd guess not.

 

Fake edit: Or do you mean PTR caused the ending to the Theo era to be disappointing?

 

i mean that if this team were still winning and TV money were coming in and PTR hadn't chickened out of spending after what happened with heyward (at best, if you give him this much credit), this wouldn't be happening. if this team were still making deep playoff runs and had healthy and big cash flow like the dodgers, there's not a chance in hell this would be happening. he'd be here at least as long as he could collect some more rings.

 

that quote was a convenient line to throw in to address jumping off a sinking ship (which is what he's doing now, as he should), not him laying out the rest of his career.

 

Yeah I certainly think it is a possibility. But at the same time I just think Theo is a different breed. I think he would strongly consider jumping at the chance to take on another challenge after an allotted time period. That said, any chance of that went out the window when PTR closed the purse strings and also the Cubs having like 5 bad drafts in a row.

[JennieGarthAlgar]

Theo was so committed to never trading his core guys that he walked away before he had to. Respect.

[CyHawk_Cub]

Why is this in Transactions?

 

Oh, and thanks Theo, for bringing us a World Series. Now we can go back to sucking and the old timers can have their "nothing is better than the good ol' days" pacifier. Win win.

[Banedon]

Fine you heathens, I moved it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Thank you Theo! Best of luck!

[UMFan83]

One of the things I'll miss most about Theo is his advocacy. He seemed like our own internal resistance against the Ricketts politics and wasn't afraid to let his differing thoughts be known. But it was done in a constructive way not a antagonistic way as we see so often in today's political climate. He used his privilege to take action instead of passive commentary. The stuff he did for the Players Alliance was amazing. He got a lot of pub for it but if I had to guess he didn't want his central role to be publicized. He's just a good dude in a world that is in desperate need of them.

 

He didn't just buy a gold coast condo and live in a bubble, he bought a house right in the neighborhood and he became part of the community. This wasnt just a stop in a storied baseball FO career, he took the time to understand the Cubs history and lore, befriended Cubs greats, partied after big wins right in Wrigleyville. I don't think we'll ever see a Cubs President of Baseball Operations have that kind of engagement with the community again. You don't realize how awesome that is until its missing again.

 

I have gripes with some of his drafting, his questionable characters he brought onto the team, some of the moves he made but those criticisms turned my rating of his tenure from a 15/10 to a 14.5/10. Thanks for everything Theo.

[Bull]

Nailed it-ish...

 

FORMER Marlins exec Michael Hill should absolutely be on the shortest of short lists of Theo replacements. Maybe the one I'd say the Cubs should dump Theo for now. We already know he can work under meddlesome owners with sinister ulterior motives

 

PTR is just gonna promote the leftovers up a spot so he only has to hire a low level scout.

 

Its amazing how often your sig matches your post.

[Cubswin11]

Nailed it-ish...

 

FORMER Marlins exec Michael Hill should absolutely be on the shortest of short lists of Theo replacements. Maybe the one I'd say the Cubs should dump Theo for now. We already know he can work under meddlesome owners with sinister ulterior motives

 

PTR is just gonna promote the leftovers up a spot so he only has to hire a low level scout.

With the Mets and Phillies jobs still open guessing there is plenty of competition to fill the role. The Mets are almost certainly more attractive with Cohen than us currently. Might need to wait until they make hires before we fill the GM spot. I’m sure there’s some other openings too that viable candidates are being interviewed for around the league.

Edited November 17, 2020 by Cubswin11

[Bertz]

This sucks, but I am glad they're doing it now. I'm sure some if it is lip-service, but he's not wrong when he says that with the long term decisions that need to be made this offseason it makes more sense for Jed to be the guy. I do also wonder if this means the offseason is going to be more oriented towards selling than "threading the needle.". It doesn't have to but it easily could when we look back.

 

I'm also curious if they do bring in a #2 behind Jed, or if that's earmarked for someone internal. Kantrovitz maybe? I would like to get another prominent outside voice brought in.

 

I also wonder about money. $10M is not nothing, especially in this market. Theo will certainly get some on his way out the door, and Jed will hopefully get a healthy bump. Does some make its way back to player acquisition?

[SaorsaDaonnan]

Thanks for everything Theo, there’s no question that, somewhere, Branch Rickey’s raising a glass...

 

:flythew:

[UMFan83]

Oh dear

 

[UMFan83]

Good quote

 

[Cubswin11]

horsefeathers the Ricketts and Crane for being such incompetent fucks

 

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh dear

 

yes, because he will get that buyout in 2020

[UMFan83]

https://twitter.com/jareddiamond/status/1328783995505680398

 

Shots fired

[Backtobanks]

horsefeathers the Ricketts and Crane for being such incompetent horsefeathers

 

 

Now Hoyer can trade KB & Schwarber and PTR will allow him to sign 1 FA @ less than $3 million.

[WrigleyField 22]

https://twitter.com/jareddiamond/status/1328783995505680398

 

Shots fired

Rebuild Red Sox: 2002-2011

Rebuild Cubs: 2011-2020

Rebuild Mets?: 2020 - 2028

Rebuild America: 2028-2036

 

Theo 2028.

[UMFan83]

horsefeathers the Ricketts and Crane for being such incompetent horsefeathers

 

 

Now Hoyer can trade KB & Schwarber and PTR will allow him to sign 1 FA @ less than $3 million.

 

Too late, savings already spent on Trump legal fund.

[UMFan83]

[Hairyducked Idiot]

He ran the tank and spank plan as well as anyone. Now let’s get someone young and hungry and ready to implement sustained success

[UMFan83]

Prob just giving his right hand man a boost stepping into the main role but interesting if true. Also apparently he referred to it as the Scott Feldman trade:

 

[Cubswin11]

Yeah I don’t think Jed is bad and am fine with him moving up. Just hope the GM comes from outside the org to bring fresh blood and new ideas.

[Banedon]