NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

[CubColtPacer]

Wild the NBA is stepping in on this for a star player to get like the 60th best player in the league to join him. Lebron and others have been doing similar horsefeathers to get far bigger and impactful players for years. Almost like the league wants Giannis out of Milwaukee.

 

https://twitter.com/termineradio/status/1329579087191543812?s=21

 

The league has been pretty consistent on this (for good or bad). Players can tamper however they want. Teams can tamper too privately, but they can't be publicly and flagrantly ignoring the rules. That's what happened here.

[Cubswin11]

What a time to be alive as a tall, shitty, white center

[raw]

I saw a tweet that had a screenshot from Reddit of a dude that figured out where Ibaka was going. Apparently he had a picture also from him boarding the plane and the floormat had Fountainbleu something or other on it. And that company only flies private jets out of Fort Lauderdale and the hour after Ibaka posted the pic the only flights from that company from that airport that flew anywhere near an NBA city were to Houston and near Brooklyn. And figured it was Brooklyn with Houston possibly trading everybody.

[raw]

Whoa! Just read this about the New Orleans Pelicans and it blew my mind.

 

Holiday- traded to the Bucks

Okafor- signed with the Pistons

Favors- signed with Utah

Etwaun Moore- is a FA and not offered a contract

Jackson and Williams (end of bench guys) were not tendered qualifying offers

 

That means the longest tenured Pelican is now.......Zion Williamson, who was drafted 16 days before the AD trade which brought Ingram, Ball and Hart. Jaxson Hayes and Alexander-Walker were also traded for that day. JJ Redick signed the week after

[We Got The Whole 9]

I saw a tweet that had a screenshot from Reddit of a dude that figured out where Ibaka was going. Apparently he had a picture also from him boarding the plane and the floormat had Fountainbleu something or other on it. And that company only flies private jets out of Fort Lauderdale and the hour after Ibaka posted the pic the only flights from that company from that airport that flew anywhere near an NBA city were to Houston and near Brooklyn. And figured it was Brooklyn with Houston possibly trading everybody.

So how did he end up in L.A.?

[Derwood]

Sign that you’re completely out of touch with the NBA: players you never heard of are signing max deals.

 

 

I blame the Bulls’ persistent suckitude

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I’d venture a guess that I know less than 5% of all NBA players.

[Derwood]

I’d venture a guess that I know less than 5% of all NBA players.

 

That would beat me

[WrigleyField 22]

Sign that you’re completely out of touch with the NBA: players you never heard of are signing max deals.

 

 

I blame the Bulls’ persistent suckitude

I had no idea who this Temple guy was the Bulls just signed and he's like a 10 year vet lol.

[Derwood]

Sign that you’re completely out of touch with the NBA: players you never heard of are signing max deals.

 

 

I blame the Bulls’ persistent suckitude

I had no idea who this Temple guy was the Bulls just signed and he's like a 10 year vet lol.

 

Same.

[squally1313]

Good contributions to the NBA thread guys.

[NewUserName]

I had all but lost interest in the NBA pretty much after Jordan retired. I wasnt a Bulls fan but it was very interesting. I started watching again as my kids became teens because they were into it. I find NBA as enjoyable know as I ever did in the 80s and 90s

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, the NBA is pretty awesome these days. I really don't care at all what the Bulls do at this point.

[WrigleyField 22]

Yeah, the NBA is pretty awesome these days. I really don't care at all what the Bulls do at this point.

There's part of the NBAs that are great, the little I've watched the past 7 years. But I'll probably still complain about the 3 point fest it's become. I'd love for the league to widen the court and move the line back and hopefully get some more offensive diversity flowing.

 

I guess it kind of is like baseball. Teams have hacked the efficiency that it's so dramatically different from the game we grew up watching. So I don't begrudge the teams or whatever but it's in both leagues control to tinker with the product.

[Sammy Sofa]

Being really horsefeathering good at shooting is, personally, something that'll never bug me about pro basketball. I don't think it compares to something like defensive shifting in baseball at all.

[raw]

Part of me is really glad this style of basketball started when it did so we didn't miss out the Jordan era. Can't imagine he'd be the GOAT without the midrange game, even though I'm sure he would have adapted and became one of the best shooters. But on a personal level, if this style of basketball existed in the 80s, I would have made it longer in the sport. LOL. I was a 5'8" center in the 6th grade who was a great jumper and rebounder. No offensive game so I worked on my inside game all summer, only to go to middle school at 5'8" where that height meant I was now point or shooting guard size and had 0 ball handling or shooting skills. Now everyone can handle and shoot, which I think makes the game more entertaining than feeding it into the post and slowing the game down.

[WrigleyField 22]

Part of me is really glad this style of basketball started when it did so we didn't miss out the Jordan era. Can't imagine he'd be the GOAT without the midrange game, even though I'm sure he would have adapted and became one of the best shooters. But on a personal level, if this style of basketball existed in the 80s, I would have made it longer in the sport. LOL. I was a 5'8" center in the 6th grade who was a great jumper and rebounder. No offensive game so I worked on my inside game all summer, only to go to middle school at 5'8" where that height meant I was now point or shooting guard size and had 0 ball handling or shooting skills. Now everyone can handle and shoot, which I think makes the game more entertaining than feeding it into the post and slowing the game down.

Yea, I love the idea of position less basketball where skill sets meld more like you describe. So I suppose of I came out anti shooting that wasn't my point, but a great 3 point shot isn't automatically more entertaining to me than a midrange shot, but naturally teams have learned the relative value and that 3 point shot has sucked up most the midrange shots.

 

It they pushed the line back and widened the court, it seems like you'd really open up the game flow for those athletic type plays rather than dumping it down to a post man 90s crawl pace. Not that there's ton of video to watch on it but before the 3 point line even existed teams played at a very fast pace, even against today's standards. That was supposedly a very fun brand of basketball, though probably about as popular as MLS is today, so not sure if that's coincidental or not.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

That's pretty dramatic! The 90s maybe were skewed too far the other way, though growing up watching the Bulls they always had their marksmen where the 3 still seemed like a valuable and not insignificant part of the game.

[Derwood]

 

That's pretty dramatic! The 90s maybe were skewed too far the other way, though growing up watching the Bulls they always had their marksmen where the 3 still seemed like a valuable and not insignificant part of the game.

 

So nothing but dunks and 3's? Sounds boring

[WrigleyField 22]

 

That's pretty dramatic! The 90s maybe were skewed too far the other way, though growing up watching the Bulls they always had their marksmen where the 3 still seemed like a valuable and not insignificant part of the game.

 

So nothing but dunks and 3's? Sounds boring

Well they're not dunking it from just shy of the FT line.

[UMFan83]

Being really horsefeathering good at shooting is, personally, something that'll never bug me about pro basketball. I don't think it compares to something like defensive shifting in baseball at all.

 

I think its more comparable to the launch angle, high k/low contact changes. People love dongs, people love 3 pointers, but there seems to be an ongoing frustration with the fact that its shifted so much that the focus of the game is selling out for HRs or 3 pointers.

 

I honestly don't have a strong opinion on this but I can understand the argument to some degree as the new emphasis on jacking up 3s does make the game slightly less appealing to me. I've lost interest in the NBA the last few years but I think its more the Bulls sucking than because players run up and down the court shooting 3 pointers every possession.

[Derwood]

 

That's pretty dramatic! The 90s maybe were skewed too far the other way, though growing up watching the Bulls they always had their marksmen where the 3 still seemed like a valuable and not insignificant part of the game.

 

So nothing but dunks and 3's? Sounds boring

Well they're not dunking it from just shy of the FT line.

 

LeBron does, but I see your point. Either way, it looks like a game of "The Floor is Lava" where the safe zones are outside the circle and inside the key

[Sammy Sofa]

I feel some of you are remembering those mid-range 2's only as the Jordan buzzer beaters instead of the lame ass horsefeathers they are a good, oh, 93.7% of the time.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Addressing some of the incentives around three point shooting(and we've discussed them before) would be helpful, but I'm curious if they've worked out the competitive balance issues that have plagued the league since LeBron's prime and the rise of Golden State. This is compounded by the fact that player power is at an all time high(not a bad thing), which makes it particularly futile as a fan of an individual team if you aren't a chosen spot and/or get particularly lucky with a couple lottery picks.

[raw]

Being really horsefeathering good at shooting is, personally, something that'll never bug me about pro basketball. I don't think it compares to something like defensive shifting in baseball at all.

 

I think its more comparable to the launch angle, high k/low contact changes. People love dongs, people love 3 pointers, but there seems to be an ongoing frustration with the fact that its shifted so much that the focus of the game is selling out for HRs or 3 pointers.

 

I honestly don't have a strong opinion on this but I can understand the argument to some degree as the new emphasis on jacking up 3s does make the game slightly less appealing to me. I've lost interest in the NBA the last few years but I think its more the Bulls sucking than because players run up and down the court shooting 3 pointers every possession.

 

I'm sure the logic is basically the same for HRs vs. sacrifice bunts, but it's pretty much the John Calipari (I think it was him) school of offense. Why shoot 18 footers and get 2 points for making them, when you can shoot 2 3/4 feet further, at a slightly higher degree of difficulty, and get an extra point for it?