9/25 | Cubs (YU) @ White Sox (Cease) | 7:10pm | MARQ/ESPN 2

[Cubswin11]

I think we may have clinched the division here. If the Cardinals don’t have to play Monday we have it. And I don’t think they will have to as of now.

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I think we may have clinched the division here. If the Cardinals don’t have to play Monday we have it. And I don’t think they will have to as of now.

 

I thought they will play if it determines home field

[UMFan83]

Somehow stumbled on Sox postgame and Ozzie is ripping on Javy for batting lefty lol

[Jaxbro]

Love ESPN going to commercial after the top of the ninth double play and Sutcliff says the ball “bounced off Sanchez’s ass” describing the play. Edited September 26, 2020 by Jaxbro

[17 Seconds]

the marlins won again, so it's actually probably good if the cardinals win at least one more this weekend. the 3rd division winner plays the third second place team, so hopefully the marlins finish behind stl and we get them instead of the cardinals

[bjam12]

the marlins won again, so it's actually probably good if the cardinals win at least one more this weekend. the 3rd division winner plays the third second place team, so hopefully the marlins finish behind stl and we get them instead of the cardinals

 

what is our updated playoff opponent scenarios?

[Jaxbro]

the marlins won again, so it's actually probably good if the cardinals win at least one more this weekend. the 3rd division winner plays the third second place team, so hopefully the marlins finish behind stl and we get them instead of the cardinals

Sixto probably strikes out every hitter in Game 1 and Alcantara would pitch as if he was still a Cardinal and dominate game 2

[sweetpeteman]

I think we may have clinched the division here. If the Cardinals don’t have to play Monday we have it. And I don’t think they will have to as of now.

 

I thought they will play if it determines home field

 

That is correct according to this:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/cardinals-tigers-september-28-games-scenarios

 

 

If one or both games would decide whether Detroit or St. Louis qualify for the playoffs, or whether the Cardinals could host a Wild Card Series, then one or both games would be played.

Edited September 26, 2020 by sweetpeteman

[17 Seconds]

the marlins won again, so it's actually probably good if the cardinals win at least one more this weekend. the 3rd division winner plays the third second place team, so hopefully the marlins finish behind stl and we get them instead of the cardinals

 

what is our updated playoff opponent scenarios?

 

If they win the division, they play the worst 2nd place team

 

if they still somehow blow the division, they'd play at San Diego

[Irrelevant Dude]

Somehow stumbled on Sox postgame and Ozzie is ripping on Javy for batting lefty lol

Even when their team is good, the inferiority complex still persists

 

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[sweetpeteman]

I think we may have clinched the division here. If the Cardinals don’t have to play Monday we have it. And I don’t think they will have to as of now.

 

I thought they will play if it determines home field

 

That is correct according to this:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/cardinals-tigers-september-28-games-scenarios

 

 

If one or both games would decide whether Detroit or St. Louis qualify for the playoffs, or whether the Cardinals could host a Wild Card Series, then one or both games would be played.

 

 

Just want to note that in order for the Cards to tie, they have to win their last 4, which include 2 against the Brewers. By winning those 2 games, they would have a better intradivision record than the Cubs and would then have the tie breaker (23-17 vs 22-18).

 

So yes, if the Cubs lose the next two and the Cards win their next 2, the Cards then have to play at least 1 more game (if they lose the first game against the Tigers, they wouldn't play the second).

Edited September 26, 2020 by sweetpeteman

[Cubswin11]

I think we may have clinched the division here. If the Cardinals don’t have to play Monday we have it. And I don’t think they will have to as of now.

 

I thought they will play if it determines home field

 

That is correct according to this:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/cardinals-tigers-september-28-games-scenarios

 

 

If one or both games would decide whether Detroit or St. Louis qualify for the playoffs, or whether the Cardinals could host a Wild Card Series, then one or both games would be played.

Passan says otherwise, if the cardinals clinch a playoff spot. Which requires some combination of 2 Cardinals wins/Phillies losses. We have the better win% no matter what in the final 2 here.

 

Here's the situation, according to sources: At the beginning of the season, MLB told teams that in coronavirus-caused cases such as the Cardinals', teams would make up as many games as possible and that makeup games would be played only if they had a direct impact on which teams make the playoffs, not seeding.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29940841/passan-final-week-mlb-never-seen-before

Edited September 26, 2020 by Cubswin11

[Brian707]

the marlins won again, so it's actually probably good if the cardinals win at least one more this weekend. the 3rd division winner plays the third second place team, so hopefully the marlins finish behind stl and we get them instead of the cardinals

 

what is our updated playoff opponent scenarios?

 

A rough uneducated guess

 

Marlins 50%

Cardinals 30%

Reds 11%

Padres 8%

Brewers 1%

Edited September 26, 2020 by Brian707

[itisallpartoftheplan]

Is the magic number based on the Cardinals playing 60?, because unless I'm missing something shouldn't it actually be 1 knowing that the Cardinals wouldn't make up those 2 if it was only for seeding? The only way the Cardinals end up with a better winning percentage is if the they win 3 and the Cubs lose 3.

 

It is because the Cards have the tiebreaker over us. Cards win out with the DH they get to 33. Cubs lose out after today and they get to 33 also.

 

ETA: I posted something the other day from a Cards beat writer saying they would make up the game for the division because it would change home field.

 

Yes, Pat Hughes said this tonight. Cardinals would have to play if the division is at stake.

 

I feel like there is mass confusion, so I don’t even know who is right.

[Irrelevant Dude]

 

I thought they will play if it determines home field

 

That is correct according to this:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/cardinals-tigers-september-28-games-scenarios

 

 

If one or both games would decide whether Detroit or St. Louis qualify for the playoffs, or whether the Cardinals could host a Wild Card Series, then one or both games would be played.

 

 

Just want to note that in order for the Cards to tie, they have to win their last 4, which include 2 against the Brewers. By winning those 2 games, they would have a better intradivision record than the Cubs and would then have the tie breaker (23-17 vs 22-18).

 

So yes, if the Cubs lose the next two, the Cards then have to play at least 1 more game (if they lose the first game against the Tigers, they wouldn't play the second).

Not that I want the Cubs to lose, but it would be great for the Cardinals to play both games of the double header and lose the last one.

 

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[sweetpeteman]

 

I thought they will play if it determines home field

 

That is correct according to this:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/cardinals-tigers-september-28-games-scenarios

 

 

If one or both games would decide whether Detroit or St. Louis qualify for the playoffs, or whether the Cardinals could host a Wild Card Series, then one or both games would be played.

Passan says otherwise, if the cardinals clinch a playoff spot. Which requires some combination of 2 Cardinals wins/Phillies losses. We have the better win% no matter what in the final 2 here.

 

Here's the situation, according to sources: At the beginning of the season, MLB told teams that in coronavirus-caused cases such as the Cardinals', teams would make up as many games as possible and that makeup games would be played only if they had a direct impact on which teams make the playoffs, not seeding.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29940841/passan-final-week-mlb-never-seen-before

 

 

 

If that's the case, I feel like the Cubs would have a legitimate complaint that the Cards get home field by playing 2 less games.

[Brian707]

If the Marlins lose at least 1 more game, The Cardinals either go 2-0 and the Cubs win 1 more game or the Cardinals go 1-1, the Cubs get the Marlins Edited September 26, 2020 by Brian707

[Cubswin11]

 

That is correct according to this:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/cardinals-tigers-september-28-games-scenarios

 

 

Passan says otherwise, if the cardinals clinch a playoff spot. Which requires some combination of 2 Cardinals wins/Phillies losses. We have the better win% no matter what in the final 2 here.

 

Here's the situation, according to sources: At the beginning of the season, MLB told teams that in coronavirus-caused cases such as the Cardinals', teams would make up as many games as possible and that makeup games would be played only if they had a direct impact on which teams make the playoffs, not seeding.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29940841/passan-final-week-mlb-never-seen-before

 

 

 

If that's the case, I feel like the Cubs would have a legitimate complaint that the Cards get home field by playing 2 less games.

What’s the complaint? The Cardinals can’t win the division if they don’t play the Monday games. We lose out we are at a 55% win% and cardinals are at a 53%. If all the playoff teams are locked in I don’t think they play Monday and we have a 1 game lead and win% lead. Cardinals have to win all 4 remaining games (if they do play Monday) with us losing out to win the division.

Edited September 26, 2020 by Cubswin11

[Brian]

Huh? If they don't make up the games the best they can do is the 5 seed.

 

(edit - that was in reply to 17 seconds)

Edited September 26, 2020 by Brian

[UMFan83]

 

That is correct according to this:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/cardinals-tigers-september-28-games-scenarios

 

 

Passan says otherwise, if the cardinals clinch a playoff spot. Which requires some combination of 2 Cardinals wins/Phillies losses. We have the better win% no matter what in the final 2 here.

 

Here's the situation, according to sources: At the beginning of the season, MLB told teams that in coronavirus-caused cases such as the Cardinals', teams would make up as many games as possible and that makeup games would be played only if they had a direct impact on which teams make the playoffs, not seeding.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29940841/passan-final-week-mlb-never-seen-before

 

 

 

If that's the case, I feel like the Cubs would have a legitimate complaint that the Cards get home field by playing 2 less games.

 

Well then maybe the Cubs should have infected half their team with COVID instead of being the only team to not have a single player or coach test positive

[UMFan83]

Also is it confirmed that the Braves win the tiebreaker for the 2 seed over the Cubs? Technically if the Braves lose out and the Cubs win out they will be tied

[Cubswin11]

Also is it confirmed that the Braves win the tiebreaker for the 2 seed over the Cubs? Technically if the Braves lose out and the Cubs win out they will be tied

Yeah, they have the better division record than us which is the first tie breaker between us and them.

[Brian]

I just don't want the horsefeathering reds

[soccer10k]

Posted this in the game thread from a couple days ago but I’ll repost here.

 

So this article says that the DH would be played if it’s for the division also, which makes sense because the reasoning for the Cards playing it if they could catch the Pads was for home field. So magic number is still 3 since the Cards have the tiebreaker over us.

 

Key point:

 

The Cubs can still get to 36 wins, and as of Thursday morning they must get to 35 wins to assure the division title ahead of the Cardinals. The Cardinals can top out at 32 wins with their current schedule, but if it’s necessary to determine the division title or their postseason berth they’ll play a doubleheader Monday at Comerica Park. If they win out, that’s 34-26.

 

This was prior to yesterday when the Cubs were 32-24 and the Cards were 27-26.

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I thought they will play if it determines home field

 

That is correct according to this:

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/cardinals-tigers-september-28-games-scenarios

 

 

If one or both games would decide whether Detroit or St. Louis qualify for the playoffs, or whether the Cardinals could host a Wild Card Series, then one or both games would be played.

Passan says otherwise, if the cardinals clinch a playoff spot. Which requires some combination of 2 Cardinals wins/Phillies losses. We have the better win% no matter what in the final 2 here.

 

Here's the situation, according to sources: At the beginning of the season, MLB told teams that in coronavirus-caused cases such as the Cardinals', teams would make up as many games as possible and that makeup games would be played only if they had a direct impact on which teams make the playoffs, not seeding.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29940841/passan-final-week-mlb-never-seen-before

 

but in the very next paragraph, he says this

 

Now, if the two games St. Louis could make up in Detroit on Monday could make the difference between them being the No. 4 seed and playing a game at home, that would be the exception. San Diego's magic number over the Cardinals for that spot is one, so the chances of that happening are infinitesimal.

 

that's from the 22nd. i think he forgot about (or dismissed) the possibility of the cardinals catching the cubs in the division, which would also affect home-field advantage.