NBA 2019-20 Season Thread

[soccer10k]

James Harden went 1-17 from 3 tonight, tying the record for most 3's attempted while only making one. The only other person with a 1-17 game? Also James Harden, last season. He's the only player with a game worse than 1-14. Harden also has a 1-13 game from 2018 and 1-13 or worse has only happened 5 times, and he's got three of them.

[NOLA]

Harden has Adrian Dantley syndrome. He takes too many shots to ever lead a team to a title.

[ConstableRabbit]

Harden has Adrian Dantley syndrome. He takes too many shots to ever lead a team to a title.

Harden and Dantley both have effective field goal percentages higher than Kobe and Jordan. They aren’t typically throwing up bricks all night.

[Cubswin11]

Man, Zion is horsefeathering fat. He’s also only like 6’5” it seems up against NBA guys.

[Splendid Splinter]

Man, Zion is horsefeathering fat. He’s also only like 6’5” it seems up against NBA guys.

 

I saw on TV that he's the 3rd heaviest player in the NBA at 285. Like I can't figure out that he's just that fat or that they're lying on TV cuz there has to be more than 2 guys in the NBA that weighs more.

[WrigleyField 22]

Man, Zion is horsefeathering fat. He’s also only like 6’5” it seems up against NBA guys.

 

I saw on TV that he's the 3rd heaviest player in the NBA at 285. Like I can't figure out that he's just that fat or that they're lying on TV cuz there has to be more than 2 guys in the NBA that weighs more.

Felicio has to be one. I don't watch enough NBA now to know any others.

[ConstableRabbit]

Man, Zion is horsefeathering fat. He’s also only like 6’5” it seems up against NBA guys.

 

I saw on TV that he's the 3rd heaviest player in the NBA at 285. Like I can't figure out that he's just that fat or that they're lying on TV cuz there has to be more than 2 guys in the NBA that weighs more.

Felicio has to be one. I don't watch enough NBA now to know any others.

Boban has to be the heaviest. He’s well over 7 feet.

[Splendid Splinter]

I decided to look up and see who were the 2 guys that are heavier. Zion is listed at 284 on nba.com.

 

Here are the guys in the nba who are within 5 lbs or heavier than Zion:

 

Andre Drummond 279

Joel Embiid 280

Tacko Fall 311

Nikola Jokic 284

Brook Lopez 282

Robin Lopez 281

Boban Marjanovic 290

Jusuf Nurkic 290

 

Felicio btw is listed at 270.

[WrigleyField 22]

Lies. He lifted one foot off the scale.

[NOLA]

Man, Zion is horsefeathering fat. He’s also only like 6’5” it seems up against NBA guys.

 

I saw on TV that he's the 3rd heaviest player in the NBA at 285. Like I can't figure out that he's just that fat or that they're lying on TV cuz there has to be more than 2 guys in the NBA that weighs more.

In the same breath the broadcasters said Zion gained 8 lbs of muscle in a week, so take all of that for what it's worth.

 

End of the day, Zion is fat. Then again he's only 19, so he can probably shed it pretty quickly.

[UMFan83]

Man, Zion is horsefeathering fat. He’s also only like 6’5” it seems up against NBA guys.

 

He looks awkward on the court being so thick and relatively short. Just doesn't "look" like a superstar, whatever that means. And then he does something super explosive and/or awesome.

[jersey cubs fan]

Man, Zion is horsefeathering fat. He’s also only like 6’5” it seems up against NBA guys.

 

I saw on TV that he's the 3rd heaviest player in the NBA at 285. Like I can't figure out that he's just that fat or that they're lying on TV cuz there has to be more than 2 guys in the NBA that weighs more.

In the same breath the broadcasters said Zion gained 8 lbs of muscle in a week, so take all of that for what it's worth.

 

End of the day, Zion is fat. Then again he's only 19, so he can probably shed it pretty quickly.

If you haven't begun shedding fat as a 19 year old athlete, chances are not good that you will begin at 20.

[Regular Show]

 

I saw on TV that he's the 3rd heaviest player in the NBA at 285. Like I can't figure out that he's just that fat or that they're lying on TV cuz there has to be more than 2 guys in the NBA that weighs more.

In the same breath the broadcasters said Zion gained 8 lbs of muscle in a week, so take all of that for what it's worth.

 

End of the day, Zion is fat. Then again he's only 19, so he can probably shed it pretty quickly.

If you haven't begun shedding fat as a 19 year old athlete, chances are not good that you will begin at 20.

 

Yeah, he's tried losing weight and I just think his body type will always be on the larger side. Injuries will probably always be a concern with him, but they said kinda similar things about Blake Griffin too.

[imb]

In the same breath the broadcasters said Zion gained 8 lbs of muscle in a week, so take all of that for what it's worth.

 

End of the day, Zion is fat. Then again he's only 19, so he can probably shed it pretty quickly.

If you haven't begun shedding fat as a 19 year old athlete, chances are not good that you will begin at 20.

 

Yeah, he's tried losing weight and I just think his body type will always be on the larger side. Injuries will probably always be a concern with him, but they said kinda similar things about Blake Griffin too.

 

blake was significantly lighter and .... has had numerous knee back and leg injuries so

[Sammy Sofa]

In the same breath the broadcasters said Zion gained 8 lbs of muscle in a week, so take all of that for what it's worth.

 

End of the day, Zion is fat. Then again he's only 19, so he can probably shed it pretty quickly.

If you haven't begun shedding fat as a 19 year old athlete, chances are not good that you will begin at 20.

 

Yeah, he's tried losing weight and I just think his body type will always be on the larger side. Injuries will probably always be a concern with him, but they said kinda similar things about Blake Griffin too.

 

Man, at first I thought you were saying people were saying that Griffin was always going to be a bigger (AKA fatter) dude, and I was all, "uhhhh, no, that's insane, I saw that Broad City episode, dammit."

[Regular Show]

If you haven't begun shedding fat as a 19 year old athlete, chances are not good that you will begin at 20.

 

Yeah, he's tried losing weight and I just think his body type will always be on the larger side. Injuries will probably always be a concern with him, but they said kinda similar things about Blake Griffin too.

 

blake was significantly lighter and .... has had numerous knee back and leg injuries so

 

Sure. Blake's body is definitely breaking down on him now, but he's had a good productive HoF career. The twilight portion of his career is not looking good and the Clippers were wise to trade him, but early Blake Griffin was a fierce dunker and an elite player.

[Cubswin11]

Blake was always in better shape and is also 4-5 inches taller. Losing some athleticism due to injury/age probably wasn’t as big of a deal for him to stay relatively effective as much as it would be for a 6’5” Zion.

 

Regardless he’s super intriguing and fun and I hope he stays healthy. I don’t think he ever gets to the point of superstar type that he’s best player on a title team/you win by default with him on the roster. Like Blake needed a top PG/top ~12 player in the league with Paul to really start winning.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Blake only turns 31 in March, and this year will be the 4th year in 5 that he's missed 20+ games, plus he missed his entire rookie year with a knee injury. Tough to take the 'he only broke down with age' as accurate or reassuring compared to Zion.

[Regular Show]

Blake only turns 31 in March, and this year will be the 4th year in 5 that he's missed 20+ games, plus he missed his entire rookie year with a knee injury. Tough to take the 'he only broke down with age' as accurate or reassuring compared to Zion.

 

Always playing the contrarian aren't you?

 

I never said it was a perfect analogy and the concerns aren't totally the same -- just that people had injury concerns about a young Blake Griffin and the way he played the game and that his career has been very good/productive. If Zion's career ends up going the same way as Blake's then I'm sure most people in NO will be very happy and take it. He's already a better outside shooter than young Blake.

 

It's not a perfect analogy because no one in the NBA has been this large and this explosive an athlete... He's closer to an NFL player than an NBA player.

 

Still, people have compared Zion Williamson to Blake Griffin, like Max Kellerman.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Blake only turns 31 in March, and this year will be the 4th year in 5 that he's missed 20+ games, plus he missed his entire rookie year with a knee injury. Tough to take the 'he only broke down with age' as accurate or reassuring compared to Zion.

 

Always playing the contrarian aren't you?

 

I never said it was a perfect analogy and the concerns aren't totally the same -- just that people had injury concerns about a young Blake Griffin and the way he played the game and that his career has been very good/productive. If Zion's career ends up going the same way as Blake's then I'm sure most people in NO will be very happy and take it. He's already a better outside shooter than young Blake.

 

It's not a perfect analogy because no one in the NBA has been this large and this explosive an athlete... He's closer to an NFL player than an NBA player.

 

Still, people have compared Zion Williamson to Blake Griffin, like Max Kellerman.

 

A reasonable person would sign Zion up for Blake's career, but it doesn't make it less odd to say 'Zion may have injury concerns, but they did about Blake too' when those injury concerns ended up being very real. It's a bit of a "they very much did kill Jesus" sorta comparison.

[Regular Show]

Blake only turns 31 in March, and this year will be the 4th year in 5 that he's missed 20+ games, plus he missed his entire rookie year with a knee injury. Tough to take the 'he only broke down with age' as accurate or reassuring compared to Zion.

 

Always playing the contrarian aren't you?

 

I never said it was a perfect analogy and the concerns aren't totally the same -- just that people had injury concerns about a young Blake Griffin and the way he played the game and that his career has been very good/productive. If Zion's career ends up going the same way as Blake's then I'm sure most people in NO will be very happy and take it. He's already a better outside shooter than young Blake.

 

It's not a perfect analogy because no one in the NBA has been this large and this explosive an athlete... He's closer to an NFL player than an NBA player.

 

Still, people have compared Zion Williamson to Blake Griffin, like Max Kellerman.

 

A reasonable person would sign Zion up for Blake's career, but it doesn't make it less odd to say 'Zion may have injury concerns, but they did about Blake too' when those injury concerns ended up being very real. It's a bit of a "they very much did kill Jesus" sorta comparison.

 

I don't think those injury concerns ended up being "very real" in Blake Griffin's case. Some of his injuries were weird incidents like a staph infection in his right elbow and breaking his hand hitting a member of the team's equipment staff lol. Not all his injuries are related to his play and the early concerns about physical contact trying to dunk on everyone...

 

I think Blake Griffin has been unlucky (in regards to some injuries), but early in his career he was very productive and durable before his body started breaking down.

 

Edit:

 

Another weird fluke injury I found in an article about his injuries:

 

Griffin suffered a sprained MCL in his left knee and could miss two months. He was hurt in the final minutes of a Clippers victory over the crosstown rival Los Angeles Lakers on Monday after Rivers collided with Griffin while pursuing a loose ball.

 

Even the first injury he suffered was from a stress fracture in his left kneecap that wasn't that serious. That's not as bad as tearing your meniscus or ACL/MCL. He was only suppose to miss a few weeks. The reason he missed the rest of the season was because it wasn't healing properly (which does occasionally happen with stress fractures). Again, somewhat fluky in nature.

[imb]

he literally didnt play his entire first season because of a knee injury

[Splendid Splinter]

I always thought Zion would end up being Larry Johnson 2.0

[Regular Show]

he literally didnt play his entire first season because of a knee injury

 

 

(deep sigh)

 

Again, he broke his left kneecap on a weird fluky dunk in a preseason game. I believe he was suppose to miss like 6-8 weeks to allow it to fully heal without needing surgery. Again, the stress fracture wasn't healing properly so then he got surgery to correct it and ended up missing his first full season after the draft. Again, no real structural damage to the knee or meniscus or ACL/MCL.

 

I believe the kneecap has given Blake no problems since that season so it really was a weird fluky injury. You don't hear too many NBA players going down with broken kneecaps, but I do believe Kyrie went down with one with Boston a couple years back...

[imb]

just a little ole fluke