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I don't think Girardi has learned anything. He's steeped in "old school" ideas. There is probably a very good reason he hasn't managed since 2017. I don't know why the Cubs would even interview him.

 

 

He could have had his pick of a couple of jobs last winter but chose to wait out the Cubs.

 

I'm undecided on who my personal choice is but part of my wants to see Girardi hired just for the apoplexy factor with certain people.

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I expect Ross to be the next guy, and whatever, that'd be just fine I suspect, but I continue to hope they get someone like Espada from the Astros. I admit I'm being reactionary about 2016 navel-gazing; nostalgia being something I'd rather leave to "I want it to be the 1950's again" baby boomers.
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The evil part of me wants them to bring in Mike Matheny. Not because I think he'd be a good fit; I just have a few friends who are Cardinal fans who have an irrational affection for the dude and are still butthurt that the Cards let him go, and I'd love to witness their reactions.
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Please get him

 

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Espada’s availability depends on Houston’s playoff schedule, but the Cubs would like to speak with someone who has spent the last two seasons inside a cutting-edge organization, working next to Astros manager A.J. Hinch.

 

It’s easy to connect the dots between Espada, 44, and the Cubs. Hinch worked in San Diego’s front office when general manager Jed Hoyer ran the Padres. After Hoyer moved to Chicago, Hinch interviewed for the managerial job that went to Rick Renteria after the 2013 season. Hinch’s last bench coach, Alex Cora, earned a World Series ring with the 2017 Astros and then managed the Red Sox to 108 wins and last year’s World Series title.

 

Espada spent four years as a pro scout and third-base coach with the Yankees (2014-17), another franchise the Cubs are analyzing as they try to accelerate their player development at the major-league level. Espada’s brother-in-law is Brandon Hyde, the Orioles manager who served as a farm director and a big-league coach as the Cubs transformed from a rebuilding team into World Series champs.

 

Espada’s roots as an instructor are in the minor leagues with the Marlins, an organization that has incubated a lot of coaching talent for the Cubs (Hyde, Tim Cossins, John Mallee, Andy Haines, Anthony Iapoce) over the years. Espada was also a coach for the Puerto Rican team that featured Javier Báez in the 2017 World Baseball Classic.

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what if the dodgers choke tomorrow and Roberts is let go?

 

Hard pass.

Yup. No interest. Seems like a guy the Mets or Phillies throw real money at because they feel he brings some special sauce or something. When really he’s been given a good team in a bad division and just follows the FO instructions more or less and one of these low cost hires can do just as much as he does.

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what if the dodgers choke tomorrow and Roberts is let go?

 

The only coach I want from LA is Prior.

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I'm not very impressed with Roberts the tactician(although admittedly that's in the playoffs which are a slightly different animal), but if I'm going to live up to my words about caring the most about player development, I can't ignore that the Dodgers have been the absolute gold standard at it. Yes they've had plenty of top prospects, but they've all hit, and they also have been able to resurrect careers too(Muncy, Turner, Hill, Morrow, etc)
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I'm not very impressed with Roberts the tactician(although admittedly that's in the playoffs which are a slightly different animal), but if I'm going to live up to my words about caring the most about player development, I can't ignore that the Dodgers have been the absolute gold standard at it. Yes they've had plenty of top prospects, but they've all hit, and they also have been able to resurrect careers too(Muncy, Turner, Hill, Morrow, etc)

 

Yeah, I'm not impressed either but it feels like every manager makes some tactical blunders in the playoffs or their team gets eliminated before they get the chance or they just finished playing the Twins...

 

I'd really need to talk to my friends on the west coast that are Dodgers fans to get a full understanding of the Pros and Cons of Dave Roberts. I have a friend (Braves fan) that was kinda shocked the Cubs were letting Maddon leave even though it's not a surprise to any of us here.

 

I think Roberts is probably a top 10 manager (and maybe even top 5 after talking to friends/scouts). I think you'd be crazy not to interview him at least if he became available and you have an opening during that time.

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Speaking of a retired Dusty Baker and a hypothetically fired Dave Roberts:

 

https://theundefeated.com/features/the-state-of-the-black-manager-in-major-league-baseball-would-disgust-jackie-robinson/

 

It took Gary Jones absolutely no time to find success as a baseball manager. At 30 years old and in his first season as skipper of the Madison (Wisconsin) Muskies, he led the Class-A ballclub to a 77-61 record and to the 1991 Midwest League championship game.

 

The team would fall to the Clinton (Iowa) Giants, 3-0, but Jones received the Midwest League Manager of the Year award for his team’s success. Four years later and coming off a 1994 Southern League championship with the Double-A Huntsville (Alabama) Stars, Jones decided to interview for the Oakland Athletics’ managerial opening left by Hall of Famer Tony La Russa in 1995.

 

At two different levels, he had shown he was capable of guiding teams to the title game. But Oakland ultimately picked Art Howe for his experience, Jones recalled. So he went back to work in the minors, winning back-to-back Pacific Coast League championships with Edmonton (Alberta, Canada) in 1996 and 1997. He moved up to the major leagues in 2013 as third-base coach of the Chicago Cubs.

 

After 27 years as a manager or coach, four minor league Manager of the Year awards and a World Series title in 2016 with the Cubs, the 57-year-old has yet to become a manager with a Major League Baseball team. Jones is still holding out hope that one day he’ll get the call.

 

“It’s still an aspiration of mine to manage at the major league level,” Jones said. “I feel like I’ve paid my dues. You pull up my bio and my history and most of the teams I’ve been involved with have normally been winning teams, whether it be at the minor league level or major league level. I’ve never been one to toot my own horn, but I feel like I’ve been a big part of those situations.

 

“Not getting opportunities, not getting interviews. … I don’t have an agent. I just do my thing and hope my work will speak for itself. Sometimes, you sit back and see other guys getting opportunities with way less experience, and I’m not going to lie, sometimes I do shake my head and wonder, ‘Why don’t I get an opportunity to be put in that situation?'”

 

Jones, who is managing the Lehigh Valley IronPigs, the Philadelphia Phillies’ Triple-A affiliate, after the Cubs let him go in 2017, is asking a question that many African-Americans aspiring to manage at the highest level have been asking for the past 50 years.

I worked in minor league baseball years ago and Gary was our manager in Reno. My all-time favorite manager during my time in baseball and my all-time favorite guy too.

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8 horsefeathering hours?????

 

All day interview isn't that uncommon for a senior position in the business world. If you're speaking with a lot of people on the leadership team plus lunch it's not really absurd.

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8 horsefeathering hours?????

 

All day interview isn't that uncommon for a senior position in the business world. If you're speaking with a lot of people on the leadership team plus lunch it's not really absurd.

Oh I know, I’m more just upset they essentially wasted a full day on Girardi.

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8 horsefeathering hours?????

 

All day interview isn't that uncommon for a senior position in the business world. If you're speaking with a lot of people on the leadership team plus lunch it's not really absurd.

Oh I know, I’m more just upset they essentially wasted a full day on Girardi.

Lots of binders to go through.

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8 horsefeathering hours?????

 

All day interview isn't that uncommon for a senior position in the business world. If you're speaking with a lot of people on the leadership team plus lunch it's not really absurd.

Oh I know, I’m more just upset they essentially wasted a full day on Girardi.

Sources tell me that they asked him to manage a simulated game and the Cubs were losing 10-2 in the second inning, so took a lot longer than expected.

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