Week 11: Vikings at Chicago Sunday night on NBC

[jersey cubs fan]

 

 

smart plan. hopefully, he doesn't get stuck in the traffic and miss his appointments.

Please explain this.

based off of twitter, it seems a lot of chicago sports radio talk is saying parkey didn't want to spend the extra time driving into soldier field to practice a couple times a week.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I posted this in the Lions thread but it bears repeating: Mason Crosby is 8/8 in FGs and 12/12 in XPs since his similarly disastorous game against the Lions. Bad days happen, unless it's still happening next weekend and we think he has yips of the leg, there's no reason to freak out.

 

Parkeys had a bad SEASON. its not one game like Crosby. And Crosby is about the worse kicker out of all of the cold climate open-air stadiums across the NFL, so not a great example.

 

I'd love to see him turn it around, but when I hear he doesn't want to practice at Soldier Field (a place he HAS to be able to kick in) and he has every opportunity to do so, he just doesn't inspire optimism in me. It looks like the Bears are going to make him do that so we will see how it affects him.

Edited November 12, 2018 by minnesotacubsfan

[ConstableRabbit]

 

 

smart plan. hopefully, he doesn't get stuck in the traffic and miss his appointments.

Please explain this.

based off of twitter, it seems a lot of chicago sports radio talk is saying parkey didn't want to spend the extra time driving into soldier field to practice a couple times a week.

In earnest?

[jersey cubs fan]

Please explain this.

based off of twitter, it seems a lot of chicago sports radio talk is saying parkey didn't want to spend the extra time driving into soldier field to practice a couple times a week.

In earnest?

no, in chicago

[minnesotacubsfan]

Please explain this.

based off of twitter, it seems a lot of chicago sports radio talk is saying parkey didn't want to spend the extra time driving into soldier field to practice a couple times a week.

In earnest?

 

I don't get the concern. Regardless of the traffic, he plays for the Bears. I would guess the fine people at Soldier Field would allow him to practice whenever and for how long he needed or wanted to. So to me, the traffic argument seems lazy on his part. Sure, it might take him 1.5 hrs to get there, they aren't going to make him rush through his workout or turn him away.

[Bertz]

I posted this in the Lions thread but it bears repeating: Mason Crosby is 8/8 in FGs and 12/12 in XPs since his similarly disastorous game against the Lions. Bad days happen, unless it's still happening next weekend and we think he has yips of the leg, there's no reason to freak out.

 

Parkeys had a bad SEASON. its not one game like Crosby. And Crosby is about the worse kicker out of all of the cold climate open-air stadiums across the NFL, so not a great example.

 

I'd love to see him turn it around, but when I hear he doesn't want to practice at Soldier Field (a place he HAS to be able to kick in) and he has every opportunity to do so, he just doesn't inspire optimism in me. It looks like the Bears are going to make him do that so we will see how it affects him.

 

He was 13/16 on FGs and 28/28 on XPs before yesterday. Those numbers are perfectly average. There's only like 4 really good kickers out there, and like 15-20 meh guys. Parkey's in that latter group, and guys in that latter group are prone to having days like yesterday. If it becomes a trend, cut him, but until then step off the ledge. It's like a closer blowing a big game, it looks bad when it's happening but it's not some indictment of him as a man or some horsefeathers.

[Brian]

Am I the only one that doesn't see the big deal here? (re: not kicking at Soldier field during the week) It feels like a "ALL PLAYERS SHOULD PRACTICE BUNTING EVERY DAY!!" thing to me. Before yesterday I never even considered that a kicker would go to his home stadium during the week to kick.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

He was 13/16 on FGs and 28/28 on XPs before yesterday.......

 

 

Honestly, those numbers are better than I thought. But he's missed 5 out of 18 FG's now, missing 2 XP's notwithstanding. That just isn't acceptable especially when it appears he doesn't want to get to know his home field because of "traffic". He will now, obviously.

 

And none of my criticism had anything to do with his "manliness".

[WrigleyField 22]

 

He was 13/16 on FGs and 28/28 on XPs before yesterday.......

 

 

Honestly, those numbers are better than I thought. But he's missed 5 out of 18 FG's now, missing 2 XP's notwithstanding. That just isn't acceptable especially when it appears he doesn't want to get to know his home field because of "traffic". He will now, obviously.

 

And none of my criticism had anything to do with his "manliness".

It can be entirely unacceptable and also our best option at this point.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Am I the only one that doesn't see the big deal here? (re: not kicking at Soldier field during the week) It feels like a "ALL PLAYERS SHOULD PRACTICE BUNTING EVERY DAY!!" thing to me. Before yesterday I never even considered that a kicker would go to his home stadium during the week to kick.

 

considering the unique relationship wind can have for this players performance (kicker), I would disagree. i would think of all the players, the kicker and punter have to be able to understand how the wind works in their home stadiums the most. And if it isn't that big of a deal, then he just plain sucks at his position.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

He was 13/16 on FGs and 28/28 on XPs before yesterday.......

 

 

Honestly, those numbers are better than I thought. But he's missed 5 out of 18 FG's now, missing 2 XP's notwithstanding. That just isn't acceptable especially when it appears he doesn't want to get to know his home field because of "traffic". He will now, obviously.

 

And none of my criticism had anything to do with his "manliness".

It can be entirely unacceptable and also our best option at this point.

 

That could be true. and it would suck. He isn't having a huge effect on the games when we score 4-5 td's and lead by 17 at half, but in a close playoff game do you trust him to hit even a 45 yarder?

[jersey cubs fan]

Am I the only one that doesn't see the big deal here? (re: not kicking at Soldier field during the week) It feels like a "ALL PLAYERS SHOULD PRACTICE BUNTING EVERY DAY!!" thing to me. Before yesterday I never even considered that a kicker would go to his home stadium during the week to kick.

 

considering the unique relationship wind can have for this players performance (kicker), I would disagree. i would think of all the players, the kicker and punter have to be able to understand how the wind works in their home stadiums the most. And if it isn't that big of a deal, then he just plain sucks at his position.

This might make sense if the wind was pushing his kicks way off the mark. But he was hitting uprights.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Am I the only one that doesn't see the big deal here? (re: not kicking at Soldier field during the week) It feels like a "ALL PLAYERS SHOULD PRACTICE BUNTING EVERY DAY!!" thing to me. Before yesterday I never even considered that a kicker would go to his home stadium during the week to kick.

 

considering the unique relationship wind can have for this players performance (kicker), I would disagree. i would think of all the players, the kicker and punter have to be able to understand how the wind works in their home stadiums the most. And if it isn't that big of a deal, then he just plain sucks at his position.

This might make sense if the wind was pushing his kicks way off the mark. But he was hitting uprights.

 

4 times.

 

honestly, it kind of reminds me of Goulds first year where he was missing (and missing a lot). That time, it was def the wind causing most of his misses. But if it isn't the wind or ball placement or a slick turf causing Parkey issues, then he just sucks. You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

[raw]

 

considering the unique relationship wind can have for this players performance (kicker), I would disagree. i would think of all the players, the kicker and punter have to be able to understand how the wind works in their home stadiums the most. And if it isn't that big of a deal, then he just plain sucks at his position.

This might make sense if the wind was pushing his kicks way off the mark. But he was hitting uprights.

 

4 times.

 

honestly, it kind of reminds me of Goulds first year where he was missing (and missing a lot). That time, it was def the wind causing most of his misses. But if it isn't the wind or ball placement or a slick turf causing Parkey issues, then he just sucks. You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

 

You can't tell me that you saw the kicking between Gould and Parkey and still believer there is a viable replacement. Like Jersey said, he hit the uprights 4 times. Literally missing by inches (you can hit the upright and still make a kick, so this is literal).

 

He was fine before yesterday (not good, but fine). He was bad yesterday, but not that bad. He'll likely be more like before yesterday than he was yesterday.

[WrigleyField 22]

You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

Well there are likely replacements who could hit higher than 72%, maybe even as well as league average (~84% on FG and 95% on PAT).

 

You know who else probably will? Cody Parkey (84% and 95.8% career averages).

[woodchip2153]

This might make sense if the wind was pushing his kicks way off the mark. But he was hitting uprights.

 

4 times.

 

honestly, it kind of reminds me of Goulds first year where he was missing (and missing a lot). That time, it was def the wind causing most of his misses. But if it isn't the wind or ball placement or a slick turf causing Parkey issues, then he just sucks. You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

 

You can't tell me that you saw the kicking between Gould and Parkey and still believer there is a viable replacement. Like Jersey said, he hit the uprights 4 times. Literally missing by inches (you can hit the upright and still make a kick, so this is literal).

 

He was fine before yesterday (not good, but fine). He was bad yesterday, but not that bad. He'll likely be more like before yesterday than he was yesterday.

 

Yea, but a quarter of an inch the other way and he would've missed completely.

[minnesotacubsfan]

This might make sense if the wind was pushing his kicks way off the mark. But he was hitting uprights.

 

4 times.

 

honestly, it kind of reminds me of Goulds first year where he was missing (and missing a lot). That time, it was def the wind causing most of his misses. But if it isn't the wind or ball placement or a slick turf causing Parkey issues, then he just sucks. You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

 

You can't tell me that you saw the kicking between Gould and Parkey and still believer there is a viable replacement. Like Jersey said, he hit the uprights 4 times. Literally missing by inches (you can hit the upright and still make a kick, so this is literal).

 

He was fine before yesterday (not good, but fine). He was bad yesterday, but not that bad. He'll likely be more like before yesterday than he was yesterday.

 

 

The goal posts are 18’-6” wide. Wth is he aiming at?

[Tim]

I don't think I'd put much trust in what Hub says, but I get the idea that the best options are already employed. That being said, why cant we get a guy who will practice at Soldier so he understands that field? I remember Gould having a hell of time his first year there and having to learn the field and the winds that wreak havoc there. There has to be someone willing to put in the work.

I'm going to guess Parkey is willing to put in work.

Yeah, article in the Athletic made it clear that was a coach's decision, not Parkey's.

[minnesotacubsfan]

You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

Well there are likely replacements who could hit higher than 72%, maybe even as well as league average (~84% on FG and 95% on PAT).

 

You know who else probably will? Cody Parkey (84% and 95.8% career averages).

 

 

Great. He SHOULD be league average. Instead, he’s currently well below it. I look forward to him hitting his next 15 in a row.

[Old Style]

You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

Well there are likely replacements who could hit higher than 72%, maybe even as well as league average (~84% on FG and 95% on PAT).

 

You know who else probably will? Cody Parkey (84% and 95.8% career averages).

The replacements would be able to do it at a much lower salary than Captain Upright.

[WrigleyField 22]

You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

Well there are likely replacements who could hit higher than 72%, maybe even as well as league average (~84% on FG and 95% on PAT).

 

You know who else probably will? Cody Parkey (84% and 95.8% career averages).

The replacements would be able to do it at a much lower salary than Captain Upright.

Sunk cost right now.

[WrigleyField 22]

You can't tell me there isn't a viable replacement out there who can reliably hit xp's and higher than 72% on FG's w/o the field being the cause.

Well there are likely replacements who could hit higher than 72%, maybe even as well as league average (~84% on FG and 95% on PAT).

 

You know who else probably will? Cody Parkey (84% and 95.8% career averages).

 

 

Great. He SHOULD be league average. Instead, he’s currently well below it. I look forward to him hitting his next 15 in a row.

And Mitch Trubisky should be able to have a passer rating above 69 like he did a couple weeks, and hey he had one of 140+ yesterday. I know we want to think of kickers performance as more dependable, and maybe there usually is less variance. But sometimes maybe there isn't less variance.

 

:dontknow:

[Chocolate Milk]

They aren't cutting a kicker they just gave $9mm guaranteed.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

its so great that the bears biggest problem right now is that their kicker licks butts

[minnesotacubsfan]

Captain Upright.

 

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