Where will Giancar-go? The Yankees.

[jersey cubs fan]

The number being floated around for the Marlins projected target payroll is about 75MM. I'm sure they'd like to keep a couple of good players, at least.

 

why would they do that? They suck balls and have no money. They'd be much better off ripping off the bandaid and losing every game for two years to stock up on prospects and high draft picks and slowly start to build a real team. There's value in an expansion or newly moved team to actually try to win some games and garner support from the new fans, but Miami has been here for 3 decades now and they are what they are, an afterthought. Why spend $75m to win 70 when you can spend $30m to win 68?

[Thusly Boned]

So the Cardinals are probably not getting Stanton, and it honestly has to sting that a top player doesn't want to go there.

 

It's not just Stanton, but Price, Heyward, Ohtani (not that the Cards showed a ton of interest in Ohtani, but he did eliminate them right off the bat), etc.

 

The reputation of STL as a "baseball heaven" where virtually all players would like to be has taken a pretty sound thrashing over the past few seasons. The gripe among Cards fans was that DeWitt wouldn't spend the money. Now it appears players don't want it even when it is offered.

[Thusly Boned]

The number being floated around for the Marlins projected target payroll is about 75MM. I'm sure they'd like to keep a couple of good players, at least.

 

why would they do that? They suck balls and have no money. They'd be much better off ripping off the bandaid and losing every game for two years to stock up on prospects and high draft picks and slowly start to build a real team. There's value in an expansion or newly moved team to actually try to win some games and garner support from the new fans, but Miami has been here for 3 decades now and they are what they are, an afterthought. Why spend $75m to win 70 when you can spend $30m to win 68?

 

It doesn't make sense to me, either. Of course they'd be better off tanking. But that rumor was making the rounds.

 

Maybe the thought process is like some here had in the early stages of our rebuild, where they preferred the futile pretense of "trying" half-assedly rather than tanking full on.

[jersey cubs fan]

So the Cardinals are probably not getting Stanton, and it honestly has to sting that a top player doesn't want to go there.

 

It's not just Stanton, but Price, Heyward, Ohtani (not that the Cards showed a ton of interest in Ohtani, but he did eliminate them right off the bat), etc.

 

The reputation of STL as a "baseball heaven" where virtually all players would like to be has taken a pretty sound thrashing over the past few seasons. The gripe among Cards fans was that DeWitt wouldn't spend the money. Now it appears players don't want it even when it is offered.

 

Well, certain players don't want to play there, while other, more wholesome types still probably do.

[Cubswin11]

The Cardinals have really become a second rate organization

[Brian707]

The Cardinals have really become a second rate organization

 

 

You would think with their awesome local cuisine, being a second rate organization would never happen

 

[Cubswin11]

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[David]

 

Seriously, tho, if they do this, this makes them less of a threat against us for Harper right?

[Cubswin11]

 

Seriously, tho, if they do this, this makes them less of a threat against us for Harper right?

I would think this almost certainly would take them out of it. It just wouldn't make much sense to have $600+ million tied up in outfielders. I think they'd be more in on Machado than Harper anyways (move Turner to 1B and Bellinger to the OF for 1-2 years until Tuner is gone, move Turner to 2B or Seagar to 2B and Machado at 3B/SS).

[champaignchris]

Seriously, tho, if they do this, this makes them less of a threat against us for Harper right?

 

It's the old "bird in hand," right. At the very least, the Cubs, Nats, and Yankees will be pushing all their chips in to try to get Harper. Probably other teams as well. The Dodgers might have a 1 in 4 shot to get Harper for who knows how much money, probably something pretty similar to, if not more expensive than, Stanton's contract.

 

They know Stanton wants to play for them. They know what his contract costs. If they can convince the Marlins to take one or both of their bad contracts (Kazmir and Gonzalez) which would defer the Marlin's salary relief for a year, but would enable the Dodgers to take the entire Stanton contract. Send Gonzalez and/or Kazmir, Puig, $10-15M, and some b-list prospects and call it a deal.

[Derwood]

I’ve read the Phillies will go hard for Harper too if they see their window opening

[davell]

Dee Gordon just went to the Mariners. No idea if Stanton gets moved soon or not. But, its going to be fun seeing how they drop payroll, if its not Stanton.

[Cubswin11]

Well, 2B is now open in Miami for Panik

[Post Count Padder]

Well, 2B is now open in Miami for Panik

I think the last update I saw was Panik wasn't in the offer but Arroyo, Ramos, Beede and Shaw all were.

[Cubswin11]

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[UMFan83]

Ummm ok

 

[Cubswin11]

He’s apparently told the Giants and Cardinals to horsefeathers off

 

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if you knew we had no chance at harper, would you want stanton?

[Cubswin11]

if you knew we had no chance at harper, would you want stanton?

Yes, but it would have to be some sort of super trade where we got Stanton, Yelich + bad contract (Volquez, Tazawa, Ziegler, etc.) too and they’d get like 1 of Almora or Happ, Seal Boy, Alzolay and Zagunis

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[davell]

We don't even want the guy, but he'd approve a deal to us and he tells the Cards no, despite them begging him.

 

Their fans are going to go nuts lol.

[shnsajax]

So can Stanton play LF?

[ScrubMD]

We don't even want the guy, but he'd approve a deal to us and he tells the Cards no, despite them begging him.

 

Their fans are going to go nuts lol.

 

@BestFansStLouis RTing some gold.

 

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[d_money]

My god, him in the line up would be sick. That contract becomes an albatross in the last 5 years ($140M - $150M). That’s a lot of jack for what could be some unproductive years.

[Thusly Boned]

if you knew we had no chance at harper, would you want stanton?

 

Sure, but I am becoming irrationally confident that Harper is a Cub in 2019.

[Thusly Boned]

And if true, Stanton being willing to accept a trade to the Midwest, but not to St. Louis, is horsefeathering delicious.