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What cracks me up is you guys saying that *hopefully* his being healthy can make up for a 2 WAR regression from Javy.

I think people are expressing doubts about his health more than questioning how productive he can be when healthy.

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What cracks me up is you guys saying that *hopefully* his being healthy can make up for a 2 WAR regression from Javy.

 

It cracks me up that it's just assumed that a nebulous, almost season-long issue with "shoulder pain/discomfort" that drastically impacted his performance won't be a thing again.

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What cracks me up is you guys saying that *hopefully* his being healthy can make up for a 2 WAR regression from Javy.

 

rest didn't help all that much last year

 

i'm far from some doom boner alarmist, but there is a non-zero chance that he is permanently broken or at least that the ceiling on his production dropped significantly. and i feel like calling it non-zero might be underselling it.

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What cracks me up is you guys saying that *hopefully* his being healthy can make up for a 2 WAR regression from Javy.

 

rest didn't help all that much last year

 

i'm far from some doom boner alarmist, but there is a non-zero chance that he is permanently broken or at least that the ceiling on his production dropped significantly. and i feel like calling it non-zero might be underselling it.

 

As the original doom boner, I would like to say that he is 100% broken. Unless he is good, in which case he is never re-signing with us because of the service time thing.

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What cracks me up is you guys saying that *hopefully* his being healthy can make up for a 2 WAR regression from Javy.

I think people are expressing doubts about his health more than questioning how productive he can be when healthy.

 

a healthy kris bryant just hopefully makes up for the likely regression from the superstar version of javy baez we unexpectedly got in 2018.

Its still terrible that their best case scenario is their broken superstar isn't broken and that he hopefully offsets the freakish ascension and almost inevitable regression of their temporary superstar.

Nope, that's not what they're saying.

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What cracks me up is you guys saying that *hopefully* his being healthy can make up for a 2 WAR regression from Javy.

 

rest didn't help all that much last year

 

i'm far from some doom boner alarmist, but there is a non-zero chance that he is permanently broken or at least that the ceiling on his production dropped significantly. and i feel like calling it non-zero might be underselling it.

You're specifically saying a "healthy" Kris Bryant "hopefully" makes up the gap.

 

Which is ridiculous.

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What cracks me up is you guys saying that *hopefully* his being healthy can make up for a 2 WAR regression from Javy.

I think people are expressing doubts about his health more than questioning how productive he can be when healthy.

 

a healthy kris bryant just hopefully makes up for the likely regression from the superstar version of javy baez we unexpectedly got in 2018.

Its still terrible that their best case scenario is their broken superstar isn't broken and that he hopefully offsets the freakish ascension and almost inevitable regression of their temporary superstar.

Nope, that's not what they're saying.

 

healthy can mean "as healthy as he's gonna get" and not necessarily the same guy he was before the injury.

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by all accounts, yu darvish is "healthy" right now. that doesn't mean he's going to go put up a season like he had a few years ago (though i'm sure as horsefeathers hopeful he will)
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I think people are expressing doubts about his health more than questioning how productive he can be when healthy.

 

a healthy kris bryant just hopefully makes up for the likely regression from the superstar version of javy baez we unexpectedly got in 2018.

Its still terrible that their best case scenario is their broken superstar isn't broken and that he hopefully offsets the freakish ascension and almost inevitable regression of their temporary superstar.

Nope, that's not what they're saying.

 

healthy can mean "as healthy as he's gonna get" and not necessarily the same guy he was before the injury.

Now you're making beeping sounds as you back up from your point.

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Nope, that's not what they're saying.

 

healthy can mean "as healthy as he's gonna get" and not necessarily the same guy he was before the injury.

Now you're making beeping sounds as you back up from your point.

 

no, you're right, the entire time i meant that kris bryant MIGHT make up for javy's regression if he reverts back to an 8 win player, because that's obviously what i meant by "healthy"

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Now you're making beeping sounds as you back up from your point.

I don't think that is the case. A lot of people are concerned that Bryant will never be the same because of the shoulder issue. He'll be healthy enough to play but not healthy enough to fulfill his destiny.

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and the use of that term goes all the way back to gflore34 saying a "healthy kris bryant makes all the difference in the world" like that's a thing that is anywhere near automatically going to happen
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by all accounts, yu darvish is "healthy" right now. that doesn't mean he's going to go put up a season like he had a few years ago (though i'm sure as horsefeathers hopeful he will)

Really - going to go with pitcher health here? There's a heck of a lot more natural variance in performance there. He's also at a different spot on his aging curve (which is different for pitchers, anyway).

 

If Bryant isn't putting up at least 5+ WAR, he's not fully healthy. "Kinda healthy" Kris Bryant isn't "Healthy" Kris Bryant. If your point is that he may not be fully healthy, say that instead.

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if we're looking to video game twitter accounts for news, I'll stick with my trusty cat

 

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I'm alleging you are the Cat. You love the Cat big-time.

 

If I was I would have created an account here as the cat a long time ago.

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healthy can mean "as healthy as he's gonna get" and not necessarily the same guy he was before the injury.

Now you're making beeping sounds as you back up from your point.

 

no, you're right, the entire time i meant that kris bryant MIGHT make up for javy's regression if he reverts back to an 8 win player, because that's obviously what i meant by "healthy"

Then just say that hopefully he's healthy enough to cover Javy's regression. Don't say that hopefully a healthy Kris Bryant can make up for the regression.

 

See how much more clear that is?

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and the use of that term goes all the way back to gflore34 saying a "healthy kris bryant makes all the difference in the world" like that's a thing that is anywhere near automatically going to happen

I agree that it isn't a certainty. But he's right that it *would* make a huge difference.

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I'm alleging you are the Cat. You love the Cat big-time.

I know this can't be true because nobody on this site loves themselves.

add self-loathing to the list of things we know about jersey. we'll have your home address in no time, gary?

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Years ago it was Tim pooping on everyone's parade about how the projections/expectations for Castro need to be tempered sooner rather than later. Now he's throwing wild haymakers at the idea that Bryant's trajectory might be...questionable.

 

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