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I've decided Jr. deserves his own thread. His charmed cup of coffee includes nailing a runner at the plate in his first big league inning in the outfield, having a 75% RBI rate per hit, and smacking a game winning double.

 

Seal Boy and Handsome Exit Velocity Man are gonna start having to feel uneasy about their jobs soon.

 

Cuz Albert ain't so bad looking himself.

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I've decided Jr. deserves his own thread. His charmed cup of coffee includes nailing a runner at the plate in his first big league inning in the outfield, having a 75% RBI rate per hit, and smacking a game winning double.

 

Seal Boy and Handsome Exit Velocity Man are gonna start having to feel uneasy about their jobs soon.

 

Cuz Albert ain't so bad looking himself.

 

I see everyone already forgot about Scizzors.

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I've decided Jr. deserves his own thread. His charmed cup of coffee includes nailing a runner at the plate in his first big league inning in the outfield, having a 75% RBI rate per hit, and smacking a game winning double.

 

Seal Boy and Handsome Exit Velocity Man are gonna start having to feel uneasy about their jobs soon.

 

Cuz Albert ain't so bad looking himself.

 

I see everyone already forgot about Scizzors.

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I've decided Jr. deserves his own thread. His charmed cup of coffee includes nailing a runner at the plate in his first big league inning in the outfield, having a 75% RBI rate per hit, and smacking a game winning double.

 

Seal Boy and Handsome Exit Velocity Man are gonna start having to feel uneasy about their jobs soon.

 

Cuz Albert ain't so bad looking himself.

 

I see everyone already forgot about Scizzors.

[spoil]http://www.badideatshirts.com/Assets/ProductImages/PS_0559_RUN_SCISSORS.jpg[/spoil]

 

To go full tangent on this....

 

 

http://theawkwardyeti.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/exercisehurts.png

 

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So thinking long-term.....I'd imagine when Soler gets healthy, Almora's back in the minors. But I also think he almost certainly gets a spot on the playoff roster due to his defense and speed. Then 2017, Fowler gets a big long-term contract somewhere else and he's penciled in at CF, and potentially becomes part of a 4-man OF group with Heyward, Soler, and Schwarber.
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So thinking long-term.....I'd imagine when Soler gets healthy, Almora's back in the minors. But I also think he almost certainly gets a spot on the playoff roster due to his defense and speed. Then 2017, Fowler gets a big long-term contract somewhere else and he's penciled in at CF, and potentially becomes part of a 4-man OF group with Heyward, Soler, and Schwarber.

 

Assuming Schwarber recovers to the point he can play in the OF again.

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So thinking long-term.....I'd imagine when Soler gets healthy, Almora's back in the minors. But I also think he almost certainly gets a spot on the playoff roster due to his defense and speed. Then 2017, Fowler gets a big long-term contract somewhere else and he's penciled in at CF, and potentially becomes part of a 4-man OF group with Heyward, Soler, and Schwarber.

 

Assuming Schwarber recovers to the point he can play in the OF again.

I don't think that's, that big of a concern. Sure it's a possible outcome but it's not likely and if his recovery goes so wrong he can't even play the OF it probably affects him as a hitter as well so then he shouldn't even be in the plans moving forward.

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So thinking long-term.....I'd imagine when Soler gets healthy, Almora's back in the minors. But I also think he almost certainly gets a spot on the playoff roster due to his defense and speed. Then 2017, Fowler gets a big long-term contract somewhere else and he's penciled in at CF, and potentially becomes part of a 4-man OF group with Heyward, Soler, and Schwarber.

 

Are you thinking of another Albert Almora?

 

But yeah, assuming Fowler walks, that'd be the scenario barring a trade.

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So thinking long-term.....I'd imagine when Soler gets healthy, Almora's back in the minors. But I also think he almost certainly gets a spot on the playoff roster due to his defense and speed. Then 2017, Fowler gets a big long-term contract somewhere else and he's penciled in at CF, and potentially becomes part of a 4-man OF group with Heyward, Soler, and Schwarber.

 

Assuming Schwarber recovers to the point he can play in the OF again.

I don't think that's, that big of a concern

 

I'm less worried since he has a pro team rehab staff working to get him back, but he wasn't the most mobile before, and it typically takes 2 years to get the "trust" back in your body (from all reports).

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Assuming Schwarber recovers to the point he can play in the OF again.

I don't think that's, that big of a concern

 

I'm less worried since he has a pro team rehab staff working to get him back, but he wasn't the most mobile before, and it typically takes 2 years to get the "trust" back in your body (from all reports).

I don't necessarily think that's true for a sport like baseball unless you're a catcher, pitcher or a guy who really relies on his legs for speed/defense. Sure it might take more time after he comes back to get all the strength back, but this isn't football or basketball where that's more true since you are constantly running, jumping, cutting, starting/stopping, getting hit, etc.

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I think there's a decent chance Almora has played his last game in the minors this year. I figure Soler gets dealt before August.
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I think there's a decent chance Almora has played his last game in the minors this year.

I agree, I think Federowicz and Szczur get replaced by Soler and LaStella when those 2 are ready to come off the DL.

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I don't think that's, that big of a concern

 

I'm less worried since he has a pro team rehab staff working to get him back, but he wasn't the most mobile before, and it typically takes 2 years to get the "trust" back in your body (from all reports).

I don't necessarily think that's true for a sport like baseball unless you're a catcher, pitcher or a guy who really relies on his legs for speed/defense. Sure it might take more time after he comes back to get all the strength back, but this isn't football or basketball where that's more true since you are constantly running, jumping, cutting, starting/stopping, getting hit, etc.

 

When I tore my acl the first time, the last thing in all sports to come back for me was hitting in baseball. I didn't trust my knee to rotate on my back foot when I swung. It was a total mental thing though, and I didn't realize I was doing it.

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I'm less worried since he has a pro team rehab staff working to get him back, but he wasn't the most mobile before, and it typically takes 2 years to get the "trust" back in your body (from all reports).

I don't necessarily think that's true for a sport like baseball unless you're a catcher, pitcher or a guy who really relies on his legs for speed/defense. Sure it might take more time after he comes back to get all the strength back, but this isn't football or basketball where that's more true since you are constantly running, jumping, cutting, starting/stopping, getting hit, etc.

 

When I tore my acl the first time, the last thing in all sports to come back for me was hitting in baseball. I didn't trust my knee to rotate on my back foot when I swung. It was a total mental thing though, and I didn't realize I was doing it.

 

I could see that. Schwarber injured his right (front) leg, no? I'd think that's much better than his left.

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I don't necessarily think that's true for a sport like baseball unless you're a catcher, pitcher or a guy who really relies on his legs for speed/defense. Sure it might take more time after he comes back to get all the strength back, but this isn't football or basketball where that's more true since you are constantly running, jumping, cutting, starting/stopping, getting hit, etc.

 

When I tore my acl the first time, the last thing in all sports to come back for me was hitting in baseball. I didn't trust my knee to rotate on my back foot when I swung. It was a total mental thing though, and I didn't realize I was doing it.

 

I could see that. Schwarber injured his right (front) leg, no? I'd think that's much better than his left.

 

His left IIRC

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I'm less worried since he has a pro team rehab staff working to get him back, but he wasn't the most mobile before, and it typically takes 2 years to get the "trust" back in your body (from all reports).

I don't necessarily think that's true for a sport like baseball unless you're a catcher, pitcher or a guy who really relies on his legs for speed/defense. Sure it might take more time after he comes back to get all the strength back, but this isn't football or basketball where that's more true since you are constantly running, jumping, cutting, starting/stopping, getting hit, etc.

 

When I tore my acl the first time, the last thing in all sports to come back for me was hitting in baseball. I didn't trust my knee to rotate on my back foot when I swung. It was a total mental thing though, and I didn't realize I was doing it.

 

 

Good job PC coaches

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So thinking long-term.....I'd imagine when Soler gets healthy, Almora's back in the minors. But I also think he almost certainly gets a spot on the playoff roster due to his defense and speed. Then 2017, Fowler gets a big long-term contract somewhere else and he's penciled in at CF, and potentially becomes part of a 4-man OF group with Heyward, Soler, and Schwarber.

 

Are you thinking of another Albert Almora?

 

But yeah, assuming Fowler walks, that'd be the scenario barring a trade.

 

Why are you trolling my horsefeathering posts now? And yes, he has speed. Granted, he hasn't stolen that much in his career, but he has a career high 10 this year and only been caught twice, and has legged out a couple doubles in the majors in his brief time so far. And based on the makeup of this roster, he could be the 3rd fastest player on the team. And I wouldn't say Fowler and Baez are very far ahead of him in a footrace.

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So thinking long-term.....I'd imagine when Soler gets healthy, Almora's back in the minors. But I also think he almost certainly gets a spot on the playoff roster due to his defense and speed. Then 2017, Fowler gets a big long-term contract somewhere else and he's penciled in at CF, and potentially becomes part of a 4-man OF group with Heyward, Soler, and Schwarber.

 

Are you thinking of another Albert Almora?

 

But yeah, assuming Fowler walks, that'd be the scenario barring a trade.

 

Why are you trolling my [expletive] posts now? And yes, he has speed. Granted, he hasn't stolen that much in his career, but he has a career high 10 this year and only been caught twice, and has legged out a couple doubles in the majors in his brief time so far. And based on the makeup of this roster, he could be the 3rd fastest player on the team. And I wouldn't say Fowler and Baez are very far ahead of him in a footrace.

 

Huh? I wasn't trolling anything. Almora's speed hasn't been considered much of an asset since he was drafted. In fact, the book on him has always been how he's great defensively despite not being fast. He's obviously fast enough to play CF and run the bases decently, but he's hardly the type of guy I'd think of as a guy you put on the playoff roster because of speed. That would be like a Billy Hamilton or even Quintin Berry.

 

It just struck me as funny to bring up Almora's speed when that has always been one of the knocks on him and was one of the narratives as he was coming up. It's not like I disagreed with your overall point.

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I have to agree here with Ding Dong Johnson and rawaction -- Almora's speed is an asset. No, he's not blazing fast, but you can use him as pinch-runner for D. Ross or M. Montero or someone like that.

 

There is pure running speed and I guess effective running speed in baseball. If you have good baseball instincts and base running skills (like Almora) it helps make up for the lack of high-end speed. You run shorter, more direct routes and get better jumps. There are many fast players in the minors who lack those instincts and are poor baserunners...

 

I also kinda take umbrage with posters who mock Almora's speed or don't believe he's a good runner. He's not a running back or widereceiver who needs to create separation to get past the defense lol

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